First: GTX 680 review !!!

[BoFox]

Maybe the mods have notice a pattern of AMD users OT'ing a thread about Nvidia cards and derailing it to the point where they feel they need to lock it so instead of locking it they're going to issue infractions and simply remove the problem posts?

+1, QFT, with my humble agreement to the glaring obvious issue that is almost too obvious to need any pointing out. It's a serious problem here - and I do not think I have the power to fix it here.

BTW, Anandthenman, if you really want to further engage in a degenerative manner, let's do it through PM's or somewhere else (hint).

EDIT: I would not encourage you to quote my posts from another forum, as it is apparently not constructive to do so (even though in the quoted post - the bottom quote in your above post - states that I only expressed why I think GTX 680 is awesome in a thread regarding GTX 680.) Can it get any more simple than that?

 

[Jacky60]

This thread should have been locked a long time ago, it's an Nvidia Shill fest, a tour de force of marketing money vs honest opinion.

 

[Keysplayr]

That's it? Your inflammatory image is just random? You posting a link on ABT to that post is just you saying how awesome the 680 is going to be? Plus you asked me a question:

We all know what you mean by your disguise comment, I answered very clearly. Oh and I love your comment on ABT -

Come on dude. If Bofox was instead posting how awesome he thought the 7970 was, would you be saying boo to him right now?

 

[Keysplayr]

This thread should have been locked a long time ago its an Nvidia Shill fest-a tour de force of marketing money vs honest opinion.

Thread should be locked. Agreed. Another will take it's place. And another. So what's the point of locking this one?

 

[maddie]

If you're not an experienced S3D user, you have no understanding, and zero credibility to post here concerning S3D matters. You're seeing two different stereoscopic sides to each frame (for a total of 120 fps - which is why you need a 120Hz monitor). :hmm:

When I think of the term "troll", this:

does not come into mind. This Nvidia guy looks like a blissfully happy guy - even his eyes are grinning. It's wonderful for your health to smile like that!

Well, when I think of "troll", usually, it's a homeless bum living under the bridge with witchy moles all over his face, or worse. Given the hostility/belligerence here in this thread, it's probably just this:

Now, let this thread be concerning GTX 680 matters and not about why HD 7970 is better (which probably will not be).

EDIT:

CharLIE says that GK110 is now taped out: http://semiaccurate.com/2012/02/07/gk110-tapes-out-at-last/

Is he just trying to spoil the launch of GTX 680??? Hmm..

Just to clear up a possible misconception about 3D.

Please tell me if I'm wrong.

To experience clean 3D, the monitor displays 2 alternating 60HZ views of a scene. This is NOT TO SAY THAT THE SCENE HAS TO CHANGE AT THAT RATE. You can have a 30 fps game with a 120 HZ screen update. In this case the views will be 2 screen updates for each eye before the scene changes to the next frame. You do not need a card with maximum 120 fps to see smooth 3D.

You get a 1/2 rate fps vs non 3D.

Is this correct.?

 

[zod96]

I want to see numbers at 2560x1440.....

 

[AnandThenMan]

Come on dude. If Bofox was instead posting how awesome he thought the 7970 was, would you be saying boo to him right now?

If he was trolling in the same way, yep I'd say the same exact things. He's accusing this forum of being an "AMD Viral china shop" among other things, you're okay with that?

 

[Grooveriding]

LMAO!!! Five straight messages now with all deflect, BS, and straight up false accusations. :thumbsup: Awesome work!

Let it go, you made up some overly-ambitious and unrealistic benchmark expectations. We all get it, would be disappointed myself between the $300 to $550 letdown and parity performance. You're not even going to buy the card, chill. You're looking to be heading straight down the path of making personal attacks you usually take when you get all worked up.

Lay on the brakes before you lay bare how personal this all is to you like you usually end up doing. Thread is bad enough without having to indulge this nonsense.

 

[Jman13]

Oh my gosh...I completely remember when this was first mocked up and presented...that had to be 8-12 years ago. Too funny. Do you remember what the original RAM number was? It wasn't 10GB originally.

 

[tviceman]

Let it go, you made up some overly-ambitious and unrealistic benchmark expectations. We all get it, would be disappointed myself between the $300 to $550 letdown and parity performance. You're not even going to buy the card, chill. You're looking to be heading straight down the path of making personal attacks you usually take when you get all worked up.

Lay on the brakes before you lay bare how personal this all is to you like you usually end up doing. Thread is bad enough without having to indulge this nonsense.

Thanks to blanketed accusations and statements over and over and over again by yourself and others. Good work on completely derailing the thread and making it sound like it's something personal to other people (like you ALWAYS, ALWAYS do). You don't have the capacity or sense to intelligently talk about possible performance - which is entirely within the scope of the thread subject - instead you pop in and out making baseless trolling statements, dropping youtube videos as if that somehow makes your points more correct, and completely avoid talking about anything thread related in a civil manner when someone directly addresses you.

:thumbsup: The trolls abroad applaud your tactics!

 

[Grooveriding]

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Lost cause and cue the personal attacks, couldn't even help it. Head over to ABT then if you cannot tolerate an environment of varied views, I'm sure there you will find a climate of back-slapping and warm fuzzy agreement.

 

[Jacky60]

Thanks to blanketed accusations and statements over and over and over again by yourself and others. Good work on completely derailing the thread and making it sound like it's something personal to other people (like you ALWAYS, ALWAYS do). You don't have the capacity or sense to intelligently talk about possible performance - which is entirely within the scope of the thread subject - instead you pop in and out making baseless trolling statements, dropping youtube videos as if that somehow makes your points more correct, and completely avoid talking about anything thread related in a civil manner when someone directly addresses you.

:thumbsup: The trolls abroad applaud your tactics!

I think you're just upset cos Groove has more posts and sense than you do.

 

[tviceman]

Lost cause. Head over to ABT then if you cannot tolerate an environment of varied views, I'm sure there you will find a climate of back-slapping and warm fuzzy agreement.

Oh boy, another attempt at round-about personal attacks. I like the comic relief you bring to the table over here. That hole you are digging is impressively deep.

 

[Vesku]

Hope reviews hit early in the week. Imo late week nda release means mixed bag launch. They don't want a full work week of forum chatter aroumd the reviews.

 

[AnandThenMan]

In a futile attempt to get this thread somewhat back on topic, let's revisit what Charlie said way back on January 19.

The short story is that Nvidia (NASDAQ:NVDA) will win this round on just about every metric, some more than others.

For those (especially a certain member here) that say Charlie has no sources and makes stuff up as he goes, to that I say Charlie AFAIK had the scoop before anyone else. I believe what he is saying is going to turn out to be true, Nvidia will have taken a page out of AMD's book and made a part that is efficient, fast, and (hopefully) reasonably priced.

If it turns out to be true, I'm definitely putting one in my main rig.

 

[BoFox]

Just to clear up a possible misconception about 3D.

Please tell me if I'm wrong.

To experience clean 3D, the monitor displays 2 alternating 60HZ views of a scene. This is NOT TO SAY THAT THE SCENE HAS TO CHANGE AT THAT RATE. You can have a 30 fps game with a 120 HZ screen update. In this case the views will be 2 screen updates for each eye before the scene changes to the next frame. You do not need a card with maximum 120 fps to see smooth 3D.

You get a 1/2 rate fps vs non 3D.

Is this correct.?

That was for maximum Vsync rate. If it's 30 fps, then be seeing only 30 frames in sequence (in motion), but 2 sides to each of those 30 fps for 60 total distinct frames, displayed on a 120Hz refresh (for a quicker draw of those frames, so that it shutters quickly enough to fool your eyes into a clear/smooth 3D image, you'd be seeing L-R-L-R per each frame (30 fps * 4 = 120 Hz).

 

[SirPauly]

Just to clear up a possible misconception about 3D.

Please tell me if I'm wrong.

To experience clean 3D, the monitor displays 2 alternating 60HZ views of a scene. This is NOT TO SAY THAT THE SCENE HAS TO CHANGE AT THAT RATE. You can have a 30 fps game with a 120 HZ screen update. In this case the views will be 2 screen updates for each eye before the scene changes to the next frame. You do not need a card with maximum 120 fps to see smooth 3D.

You get a 1/2 rate fps vs non 3D.

Is this correct.?

There are two off-set identical images on each frame with the display; and the shutters and display do the alternating while offering 60hz per eye.

 

[blastingcap]

In a futile attempt to get this thread somewhat back on topic, let's revisit what Charlie said way back on January 19.

For those (especially a certain member here) that say Charlie has no sources and makes stuff up as he goes, to that I say Charlie AFAIK had the scoop before anyone else. I believe what he is saying is going to turn out to be true, Nvidia will have taken a page out of AMD's book and made a part that is efficient, fast, and (hopefully) reasonably priced.

If it turns out to be true, I'm definitely putting one in my main rig.

Nah, Charlie had a followup article that was really difficult to interpret where he somewhat backtracked, saying the GK104 was fast only because of PhysX. Okay, games use software PhysX even if most games don't use GPU PhysX, but really? It's about as clear as mud what he wound up saying about GK104 after his initial "wins at everything that matters" proclamation. So no, I do not give Charlie that much credit for his conclusion-that-was-subsequently-modified-to-be-unclear.

 

[Keysplayr]

If he was trolling in the same way, yep I'd say the same exact things. He's accusing this forum of being an "AMD Viral china shop" among other things, you're okay with that?

If it's his opinion, I'm okay with it. You aren't ?

 

[blastingcap]

If it's his opinion, I'm okay with it. You aren't ?

Hey Keys did you get a GTX 680 yet and if so could you please verify that it can do 3 monitors by itself? The Chinese leak said yes, so I'm hopeful, but I haven't seen any other place say that yet.

 

[AnandThenMan]

Not going to respond to that let's get back on topic. If you want to discuss it send me a PM.

 

[AnandThenMan]

The GTX 680 can do 4 monitors I believe, although I'm not sure what the restrictions will be if any. Either way 3 monitors with 3D vision support is pretty much confirmed.

 

[MrK6]

If it's his opinion, I'm okay with it. You aren't ?

Let's work to get the thread back on track instead of derailing it further.

Hope reviews hit early in the week. Imo late week nda release means mixed bag launch. They don't want a full work week of forum chatter aroumd the reviews.

It could go either way really. Without numbers, one could argue they kept quiet to clear the 500 series stock. Or that they couldn't release until now and had nothing substantial to show (and kept quiet after learning what bragging without proof does from the Fermi debacle). Or that it really doesn't matter as there isn't significant stock to impact the markets, so whenever it hits, it hits. I'd like to see reviews soon as well though.

 

[blastingcap]

The GTX 680 can do 4 monitors I believe, although I'm not sure what the restrictions will be if any. Either way 3 monitors with 3D vision support is pretty much confirmed I believe.

Do you have a link other than the Chinese site or derivations thereof?

 

[AnandThenMan]

Do you have a link other than the Chinese site or derivations thereof?

Not off hand, just going by what info I've garnered from Beyond3D and other places. Let's put it this way, there is no way Nvidia was going to let AMD have the Eyefinity like market to themselves for another generation, so I have no doubt the 680 will support 3+ displays.