First: GTX 680 review !!!

[blackened23]

Haha,
so you now take a fake number and compare it with another fake number? That's really :thumbsup:

Wait, I thought it was real? I could have sworn a few pages ago that people were claiming it was definitive proof that nvidia had 1 upped AMD with a part being 40% faster :thumbsup:

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Wait, I thought it was real? I could have sworn a few pages ago that people were claiming it was definitive proof that nvidia had 1 upped AMD :thumbsup:

Those do look fake (because it shows the 7970 being close to the 680), but the 3DMark11 results do not look nearly as fake. Since they're actual screens and not silly crappy looking turd colored graphs.

I think most of us are ignoring the ones you're pointing out.

 

[blackened23]

Those do look fake (because it shows the 7970 being close to the 680),.

:thumbsup:

 

[BallaTheFeared]

heh

 

[blackened23]

heh

If the cards are seriously equal like mentioned in the graphs above, I expect to see some interesting reactions. :thumbsup:

 

[BallaTheFeared]

I fully expect you to be running Nvidia again in a months time.

 

[-Slacker-]

I want to like AMD, but I seem to always have sour results with them. My 9700 was a fantastic card, but the 4870's that I used a while ago were constantly giving me troubles. I've never had problems with nvidia cards or drivers. I've been rock stable and extremely happy with my 470 that I got for 220 bucks 2 years ago. Best card I've ever had TBH.

What does your experience with 2 old AMD cards have to do with anything? Forgive my asshole-ness, but this thread already has more than it's fair share of flaming and trolling, and your post isn't going to help reduce that.

 

[bryanW1995]

Sure it could be, but then again consider the source...an unknown source NOT affiliated with a website? Come on. There's no need to stand up for an obviously shady source. I suspect its fake, but in any case we'll see true numbers in less than a week.

I'll be first to praise the gk104 and eat crow if the rumors are true, but these fake reviews aren't cutting it. I'll wait for the AT benchmarks.

As I stated earlier, these fake reviews aren't cutting it because they show a card that is highly tuned for the upper midrange instead of the high end. You'll be eating crow when bigK comes out, but not from this.

 

[TakeNoPrisoners]

Fanboys make me lol.

Its like you guys are trying to see who is the biggest tool. :biggrin:

 

[Crap Daddy]

This review / benchmark is fake but since some here are championing it, i'll ask the obvious: I see people stating a 40% performance increase over the 7970

I want to see one post where somebody expected the GK104 to be 40% faster than the 7970

 

[bryanW1995]

The fact that the thread was created by a long time lurker makes me wonder also. Who joins and then makes their first post almost 5yrs later.

I know of at least one person who claims to have lots of stealth accounts, just waiting to be activated...

 

[blackened23]

duplicate

 

[blackened23]

I fully expect you to be running Nvidia again in a months time.

I don't have an issue with this. I've run nvidia many times in the past and will definitely go back if the GTX 680 lives up to expectations :thumbsup:

But I won't be if both cards are 1 fps apart from each other like these graphs show. Just curious, what will your reaction be if 7970/680 are 1 fps apart in most games and yet they both cost 550$?

 

[bryanW1995]

So even if what AMD offers is objectively superior, you still wouldn't buy it due to a feature that has a very limited userbase, that a ton of people can't even physically use (*waves hand*, got slight astigmatism, my eyesight is pretty good, but all 3d does for me is make me groan), and that's not even exclusive to Nvidia, it's just easier to use.

Sorry, but I think you fit the definition of a fanboy pretty well.

And I think that lots of people are letting their AMD bias show in this thread. I admit that for years I favored AMD cards. I still like them a lot, but I also see some advantages in NV cards that I wouldn't have appreciated if I hadn't bought the gtx 480 last year. Specifically, I like the custom profiles and SSAA for older games. I'm clearly not the only person to feel that way, as AMD has implemented SSAA with the 79x0 series and, iirc, custom game profiles. Physx I couldn't care less about at all, I think that it is complete marketing BS, though I suppose that it could be slightly important to a few people in a few fringe cases. D3D I've heard from numerous sources is a LOT better with NV, but I just don't care about it personally. I can see that gaining steam in the future, however, and I wouldn't rule out getting it at some point down the road. AMD has a good head of steam going lately, and I don't blame anybody for buying AMD cards these days, but attacking somebody who likes some of the specific advantages that older NV cards had is just ridiculous.

 

[Keysplayr]

That's all I was aiming at. You said "if it performs equivalently to the 7970 which is pushing 600 bucks now" which makes it sound like the new street price of the 7970 is $600. I was pointing out that that's not true. My personal opinion is that if you are a member of Nvidia's focus group and you want to ensure you're posts don't come off as marketing talk, you take extra precautions in how you represent the competition. Stating that the 7970 is now pushing $600 sounds like marketing speak when many are easily available for $550 (only one card at Newegg is $600).

Maybe it was an honest mistake but, if I were getting free hardware from Nvidia, I'd be extra careful how I represented AMD if I wanted to avoid the image that my opinions were bought and paid for.

Ok, the minimum one could find the 7970 for is 550. And you know, if I said 500, nobody would have minded.
And all of my posts, depending on who you are, comes off as marketing talk.
It's never my own opinion, (but it always is). Anyway, you are right, I should be razor sharp in editing my posts before actually posting them. 1 little mispoke word could start armageddon. :sneaky:

 

[bryanW1995]

You don't have to buy it --- you'll get it for free from nvidia.

And this is not an attack, I'm just saying, or pointing out that you CAN honestly make this comment, while still getting the best. Having your cake and eating it too. Lovely, isn't it?

Anyway, has anyone else smelled the tell-tale scent of Nvidia black-ops PR from the beginning of Tahiti release? All these little leaks, coming from oversees about pricing ($300!!!), performance (40-60% over!!!), mid-range die (wait til BigK!!!!)..

To what end? Just to keep doubt in people's mind and hold off on buying. Now the truth comes too --- It's not $300, it's performance will be in-line with Tahiti (but at what cost? No clock headroom?), and Nvidia is making this their high end because they have no choice.

Nvidia should just slap a TWIMTBP sticker on all their fanboys!

I disagree. In fact, we have gotten remarkably few leaks that I would classify as "favorable to nvidia and likely". Why? Because the real high end card that we all want is coming out at the end of the year. NV was able to get away with this in the 8800 gtx --> 9800 gtx move because AMD was so weak back then, but now there simply isn't as much good news to give us from the green team. And even if gtx 680 IS a large improvement, pricing sucks so badly these days that most of us would hold off, anyway. I'm very thankful that I've got a good card right now because I don't see much pricing relief on the horizon.

 

[Jacky60]

Yeah - they just assaulted a freighter off the coast of Cuba that was broadcasting an AMD signal.

Come on, nvidia black ops? :thumbsdown:

I swear some people think amd/nvidia aren't two faceless corporations releasing competing products but rather teams of sweaty guys in red or green tights fighting each other over the fate of the free world, hoping that each product release will be the secret weapon or magic power that will wipe out the other side so that all of humanity can bask in the glory of the One True GPU.

What? Are you 5 years old? Do you really think multi-million dollar corporations don't engage in dirty tricks (e.g.the water in Crysis 2). In your world does everybody speak the truth, wear their heart on their sleeves and fully disclose what they're up to? Heaven help us.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Impressive for a five year old though, considerably more advanced in English than I was at that age.

 

[badb0y]

I am eagerly awaiting reviews for the GTX 680.

 

[Itchrelief]

What? Are you 5 years old? Do you really think multi-million dollar corporations don't engage in dirty tricks (e.g.the water in Crysis 2). In your world does everybody speak the truth, wear their heart on their sleeves and fully disclose what they're up to? Heaven help us.

I'd prefer to attribute it to the bloggers fishing for hits combined with readers' wishful thinking until some proof shows up.

 

[f1sherman]

What? Are you 5 years old? Do you really think multi-million dollar corporations don't engage in dirty tricks (e.g.the water in Crysis 2). In your world does everybody speak the truth, wear their heart on their sleeves and fully disclose what they're up to? Heaven help us.

Impressive for a five year old though, considerably more advanced in English than I was at that age.

And even more points for NV black-ops team for pulling out invisible-Crysis-2-
-water trick.

Considering that layer of water was in CryEngine already in original Crysis.

Makes AMD SWAT team looking like a hastily gathered village militia

 

[Jacky60]

Impressive for a five year old though, considerably more advanced in English than I was at that age.

I agree he writes well for a kid that age, it's the premise I find bewildering.
Anyone would think that global corporations that own governments and do pretty much as they please (I'm not referring to either AMD or Nvidia here) got where they are by always telling the truth and being decent and above board in all circumstances and the idea that people might conspire in secret is just another crazy conspiracy theory. I merely meant as wise consumers we would do well to always assume the worst and be gratefully proved wrong rather than the other way around.
I for one dearly hope the 680 is 40% faster than a 7970 or even 30% faster as competition should (but may well not) drive down prices.

 

[Jacky60]

And even more points for NV black-ops team for pulling out invisible-Crysis-2-
-water trick.

Considering that layer of water was in CryEngine already in original Crysis.

Makes AMD SWAT team looking like a hastily gathered village militia

OK the concrete barriers-the most tessellated 3d objects in the Universe -were they in Cryrengine as well?
The idea they were deliberately there to cripple AMD hardware is just a crazy conspiracy theory. I agree we need to send weapons to the village militia as they aren't as good as the Spec4's at this.

 

[Stoneburner]

if this launches at $ 550, the 7970 shoudl go to $500 and the 7950 may go to $400

RIGHT ?

 

[MrK6]

if this launches at $ 550, the 7970 shoudl go to $500 and the 7950 may go to $400

RIGHT ?

I'd doubt it. The GTX 680 would have to be universally and undeniably better than the 7970, and there hasn't been anything posted yet to indicate that. You might see prices drop once one vendor or the other gets enough stock to initiate a price war though, but all reports point to that not happening until this summer at the least.