first handgun purchase

[fisheerman]

I conceal carry a glock 30 (45) and a sig p230 (380)

the glock in the winter and heavier clothed months because it is a larger frame gun.

sig in the summer when shorts and tee is all I have.

for home defense nothing says "Lets get the hell oughta here" like the sound of a nice remington 870 pump going "rraacckkk" in the cold still night.

 

[Hammerhead]

Originally posted by: fisheerman
for home defense nothing says "Lets get the hell oughta here" like the sound of a nice remington 870 pump going "rraacckkk" in the cold still night.

For home defense, an SKS or the big bitch that comes with it...
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[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: yuppiejr
You guys are tuff...

It's the internet, we are all tough guys that can bench press 500lbs and we all competitively fight in MMA.

I don't get that...but basically I had to run away I had said. A real e-thung is bulletproof or can move like Neo though.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Go with a revolver. Revolvers are cooler. And don't buy some foreign piece of trash, go with the best, get a Smith and Wesson.

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: JEDI

"Concealed special occasion carry"

What gun would you get? would it be a hybrid of pure home and pure daily carry?

I would define that as you know something bad could likely happen during that period.

While you may be ok carrying a .380 normally, if you absolutely know you are going to see or highly have a chance of using the weapon you may want to carry a larger weapon in stopping power or capacity or both.

I'm all for concealed carry, and carrying whatever you want, but if you're going somewhere where you think you'll be shooting your way out, then you probably shouldn't go there in the first place. The way you word it, the only situations that I can think of that fit your description are drug deals and other illegal activity with unscrupulous characters.

OK, I live just south of DC across the Potomac, in one of the richest areas of the country (average income/household). One day I went to a local Chipotle, (which is right next to the nice, modern, clean Reston Town Center), got my food and came out. I found a guy checking out my car. He noticed me when I was about 20 ft away, and GLARED. I mean, eyes wide open, "I'm going to kill you" glare. I immediately dropped eye contact and walked an evasive pattern, and he got in his car and drove off; but if he'd come at me with anything I'd have been screwed.

He was also Hispanic, and had an ear ring that I later learned was the sign of an El Salvadoran gang.

I got lucky. If my luck had run out, I would've liked a gun.

 

[fisheerman]

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: JEDI

"Concealed special occasion carry"

What gun would you get? would it be a hybrid of pure home and pure daily carry?

I would define that as you know something bad could likely happen during that period.

While you may be ok carrying a .380 normally, if you absolutely know you are going to see or highly have a chance of using the weapon you may want to carry a larger weapon in stopping power or capacity or both.

I'm all for concealed carry, and carrying whatever you want, but if you're going somewhere where you think you'll be shooting your way out, then you probably shouldn't go there in the first place. The way you word it, the only situations that I can think of that fit your description are drug deals and other illegal activity with unscrupulous characters.

OK, I live just south of DC across the Potomac, in one of the richest areas of the country (average income/household). One day I went to a local Chipotle, (which is right next to the nice, modern, clean Reston Town Center), got my food and came out. I found a guy checking out my car. He noticed me when I was about 20 ft away, and GLARED. I mean, eyes wide open, "I'm going to kill you" glare. I immediately dropped eye contact and walked an evasive pattern, and he got in his car and drove off; but if he'd come at me with anything I'd have been screwed.

He was also Hispanic, and had an ear ring that I later learned was the sign of an El Salvadoran gang.

I got lucky. If my luck had run out, I would've liked a gun.

Nothing deters crime better than a lawfully armed citizen.

If that guy wouldve jumped on you just think you could've waited for the cops to get there or hope that someone will come to your aide.

either way you were screwed.

-fish

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Originally posted by: fisheerman

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: JEDI

"Concealed special occasion carry"

What gun would you get? would it be a hybrid of pure home and pure daily carry?

I would define that as you know something bad could likely happen during that period.

While you may be ok carrying a .380 normally, if you absolutely know you are going to see or highly have a chance of using the weapon you may want to carry a larger weapon in stopping power or capacity or both.

I'm all for concealed carry, and carrying whatever you want, but if you're going somewhere where you think you'll be shooting your way out, then you probably shouldn't go there in the first place. The way you word it, the only situations that I can think of that fit your description are drug deals and other illegal activity with unscrupulous characters.

OK, I live just south of DC across the Potomac, in one of the richest areas of the country (average income/household). One day I went to a local Chipotle, (which is right next to the nice, modern, clean Reston Town Center), got my food and came out. I found a guy checking out my car. He noticed me when I was about 20 ft away, and GLARED. I mean, eyes wide open, "I'm going to kill you" glare. I immediately dropped eye contact and walked an evasive pattern, and he got in his car and drove off; but if he'd come at me with anything I'd have been screwed.

He was also Hispanic, and had an ear ring that I later learned was the sign of an El Salvadoran gang.

I got lucky. If my luck had run out, I would've liked a gun.

Nothing deters crime better than a lawfully armed citizen.

If that guy wouldve jumped on you just think you could've waited for the cops to get there or hope that someone will come to your aide.

either way you were screwed.

-fish

Well he wouldn't have been lawfully armed. Not legal to have handguns in DC.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: TallBill
My sig P226 is by far my favorite handgun.

Dude, I always pick that gun the first round of a CS:S map and I pwn with it.

 

[fisheerman]

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones

Originally posted by: fisheerman

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: JEDI

"Concealed special occasion carry"

What gun would you get? would it be a hybrid of pure home and pure daily carry?

I would define that as you know something bad could likely happen during that period.

While you may be ok carrying a .380 normally, if you absolutely know you are going to see or highly have a chance of using the weapon you may want to carry a larger weapon in stopping power or capacity or both.

I'm all for concealed carry, and carrying whatever you want, but if you're going somewhere where you think you'll be shooting your way out, then you probably shouldn't go there in the first place. The way you word it, the only situations that I can think of that fit your description are drug deals and other illegal activity with unscrupulous characters.

OK, I live just south of DC across the Potomac, in one of the richest areas of the country (average income/household). One day I went to a local Chipotle, (which is right next to the nice, modern, clean Reston Town Center), got my food and came out. I found a guy checking out my car. He noticed me when I was about 20 ft away, and GLARED. I mean, eyes wide open, "I'm going to kill you" glare. I immediately dropped eye contact and walked an evasive pattern, and he got in his car and drove off; but if he'd come at me with anything I'd have been screwed.

He was also Hispanic, and had an ear ring that I later learned was the sign of an El Salvadoran gang.

I got lucky. If my luck had run out, I would've liked a gun.

Nothing deters crime better than a lawfully armed citizen.

If that guy wouldve jumped on you just think you could've waited for the cops to get there or hope that someone will come to your aide.

either way you were screwed.

-fish

Well he wouldn't have been lawfully armed. Not legal to have handguns in DC.

OK, I live just south of DC across the Potomac, in one of the richest areas of the country (average income/household). One day I went to a local Chipotle, (which is right next to the nice, modern, clean Reston Town Center


I think the bolded above would put him in one of the most gun friendly states in the US good ole VA not DC. Fairfax county to be exact.:light:

But yeah DC is a no gun, "kill free" zone, anti constitution, crime infested district.

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: fisheerman

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones

Originally posted by: fisheerman

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: JEDI

"Concealed special occasion carry"

What gun would you get? would it be a hybrid of pure home and pure daily carry?

I would define that as you know something bad could likely happen during that period.

While you may be ok carrying a .380 normally, if you absolutely know you are going to see or highly have a chance of using the weapon you may want to carry a larger weapon in stopping power or capacity or both.

I'm all for concealed carry, and carrying whatever you want, but if you're going somewhere where you think you'll be shooting your way out, then you probably shouldn't go there in the first place. The way you word it, the only situations that I can think of that fit your description are drug deals and other illegal activity with unscrupulous characters.

OK, I live just south of DC across the Potomac, in one of the richest areas of the country (average income/household). One day I went to a local Chipotle, (which is right next to the nice, modern, clean Reston Town Center), got my food and came out. I found a guy checking out my car. He noticed me when I was about 20 ft away, and GLARED. I mean, eyes wide open, "I'm going to kill you" glare. I immediately dropped eye contact and walked an evasive pattern, and he got in his car and drove off; but if he'd come at me with anything I'd have been screwed.

He was also Hispanic, and had an ear ring that I later learned was the sign of an El Salvadoran gang.

I got lucky. If my luck had run out, I would've liked a gun.

Nothing deters crime better than a lawfully armed citizen.

If that guy wouldve jumped on you just think you could've waited for the cops to get there or hope that someone will come to your aide.

either way you were screwed.

-fish

Well he wouldn't have been lawfully armed. Not legal to have handguns in DC.

OK, I live just south of DC across the Potomac, in one of the richest areas of the country (average income/household). One day I went to a local Chipotle, (which is right next to the nice, modern, clean Reston Town Center


I think the bolded above would put him in one of the most gun friendly states in the US good ole VA not DC. Fairfax county to be exact.:light:

But yeah DC is a no gun, "kill free" zone, anti constitution, crime infested district.

Correct! Although I think Virginia only allows open-carry. :thumbsdown:

Edit: NVM. Apparently my knowledge of gun laws is somewhat outdated. You have to apply for a permit for concealed. Open-carry does not require a permit.

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: JEDI

"Concealed special occasion carry"

What gun would you get? would it be a hybrid of pure home and pure daily carry?

I would define that as you know something bad could likely happen during that period.

While you may be ok carrying a .380 normally, if you absolutely know you are going to see or highly have a chance of using the weapon you may want to carry a larger weapon in stopping power or capacity or both.

I'm all for concealed carry, and carrying whatever you want, but if you're going somewhere where you think you'll be shooting your way out, then you probably shouldn't go there in the first place. The way you word it, the only situations that I can think of that fit your description are drug deals and other illegal activity with unscrupulous characters.

OK, I live just south of DC across the Potomac, in one of the richest areas of the country (average income/household). One day I went to a local Chipotle, (which is right next to the nice, modern, clean Reston Town Center), got my food and came out. I found a guy checking out my car. He noticed me when I was about 20 ft away, and GLARED. I mean, eyes wide open, "I'm going to kill you" glare. I immediately dropped eye contact and walked an evasive pattern, and he got in his car and drove off; but if he'd come at me with anything I'd have been screwed.

He was also Hispanic, and had an ear ring that I later learned was the sign of an El Salvadoran gang.

I got lucky. If my luck had run out, I would've liked a gun.

Nice story, but I'm not sure what it has to do with what I said.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: JEDI

"Concealed special occasion carry"

What gun would you get? would it be a hybrid of pure home and pure daily carry?

I would define that as you know something bad could likely happen during that period.

While you may be ok carrying a .380 normally, if you absolutely know you are going to see or highly have a chance of using the weapon you may want to carry a larger weapon in stopping power or capacity or both.

I'm all for concealed carry, and carrying whatever you want, but if you're going somewhere where you think you'll be shooting your way out, then you probably shouldn't go there in the first place. The way you word it, the only situations that I can think of that fit your description are drug deals and other illegal activity with unscrupulous characters.

OK, I live just south of DC across the Potomac, in one of the richest areas of the country (average income/household). One day I went to a local Chipotle, (which is right next to the nice, modern, clean Reston Town Center), got my food and came out. I found a guy checking out my car. He noticed me when I was about 20 ft away, and GLARED. I mean, eyes wide open, "I'm going to kill you" glare. I immediately dropped eye contact and walked an evasive pattern, and he got in his car and drove off; but if he'd come at me with anything I'd have been screwed.

He was also Hispanic, and had an ear ring that I later learned was the sign of an El Salvadoran gang.

I got lucky. If my luck had run out, I would've liked a gun.

Nice story, but I'm not sure what it has to do with what I said.

He's saying that living in a decent area doesn't eliminate the possibility of criminal activity...that's what I got out of it, anyway.

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: CadetLee

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: JEDI

"Concealed special occasion carry"

What gun would you get? would it be a hybrid of pure home and pure daily carry?

I would define that as you know something bad could likely happen during that period.

While you may be ok carrying a .380 normally, if you absolutely know you are going to see or highly have a chance of using the weapon you may want to carry a larger weapon in stopping power or capacity or both.

I'm all for concealed carry, and carrying whatever you want, but if you're going somewhere where you think you'll be shooting your way out, then you probably shouldn't go there in the first place. The way you word it, the only situations that I can think of that fit your description are drug deals and other illegal activity with unscrupulous characters.

OK, I live just south of DC across the Potomac, in one of the richest areas of the country (average income/household). One day I went to a local Chipotle, (which is right next to the nice, modern, clean Reston Town Center), got my food and came out. I found a guy checking out my car. He noticed me when I was about 20 ft away, and GLARED. I mean, eyes wide open, "I'm going to kill you" glare. I immediately dropped eye contact and walked an evasive pattern, and he got in his car and drove off; but if he'd come at me with anything I'd have been screwed.

He was also Hispanic, and had an ear ring that I later learned was the sign of an El Salvadoran gang.

I got lucky. If my luck had run out, I would've liked a gun.

Nice story, but I'm not sure what it has to do with what I said.

He's saying that living in a decent area doesn't eliminate the possibility of criminal activity...that's what I got out of it, anyway.

Exactly.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Dude, you sound like a guy looking for trouble. Either that or you're just super paranoid.

I used to work in Los Angeles for a car rental company and had to travel into some pretty unsavory areas of South Central Los Angeles and even East LA and I'm a white guy. I never had any reason to pull, let alone use, a gun in self defense. Fuck, I lived in Los Angeles during the riots after the Rodney King incident. I drove through an area being looted to pick up my wife on day two of the riots, I could smell the smoke from the burning buildings at night, I had a loaded gun sitting in easy reach in case I needed it but I never did thankfully.

My experiences have taught me that gun ownership is a right that we need to protect because I've seen society break down to where you couldn't count on anyone but yourself. Still, the way you talk you'd think you lived in a war zone.

That like how Geek Squad makes one a system admin?

Difference is you didn't get out of your car or simply blended in (shadow to shadow, rabbit run).

By your own 'experience' say you had to drive into the riots?

I don't live in a war zone actually the most expensive/exclusive place and a few close runners up to live in our country are within 10 minutes of me, but gangs and criminals exist, people die here almost each week by being simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. Get out in a club once and a while and mess with some guy's or worse some banger's ex or a chick he thought was 'his'. You can be that guy in the old Weider comics that got sand kicked in his face or tell him to pound sand.

Like I have said most simple don't understand what kinds of things happen right in their own neighborhoods or closely outside them because they are scared or uninterested in exploring.

The riots were one example. I used to pick up and deliver cars in some of the most unsavory areas of Compton, East LA, South Central and every once in a while repo a car in those areas-not often but occasionally. I'd never go to a club in one of those areas and generally the people I dealt with in those areas were not a problem. I'm not stupid enough to live in or near those areas though.

I've found that people generally treat me about as well as I treat them. I've carried a weapon into some areas because I felt that it was prudent but I've never had to use it.

Like I have said most simple don't understand what kinds of things happen right in their own neighborhoods or closely outside them because they are scared or uninterested in exploring.

Why would I explore a shithole? Seriously, there isn't any reason for me to travel through those areas now so I just avoid them. I don't see anything wrong with that. I'm not Charles Bronson for fuck sake...nor do I care to be. :roll:

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: yuppiejr
You guys are tuff...

FWIW I cried during 'Brokeback Mountain'

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: CadetLee

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: JEDI

"Concealed special occasion carry"

What gun would you get? would it be a hybrid of pure home and pure daily carry?

I would define that as you know something bad could likely happen during that period.

While you may be ok carrying a .380 normally, if you absolutely know you are going to see or highly have a chance of using the weapon you may want to carry a larger weapon in stopping power or capacity or both.

I'm all for concealed carry, and carrying whatever you want, but if you're going somewhere where you think you'll be shooting your way out, then you probably shouldn't go there in the first place. The way you word it, the only situations that I can think of that fit your description are drug deals and other illegal activity with unscrupulous characters.

OK, I live just south of DC across the Potomac, in one of the richest areas of the country (average income/household). One day I went to a local Chipotle, (which is right next to the nice, modern, clean Reston Town Center), got my food and came out. I found a guy checking out my car. He noticed me when I was about 20 ft away, and GLARED. I mean, eyes wide open, "I'm going to kill you" glare. I immediately dropped eye contact and walked an evasive pattern, and he got in his car and drove off; but if he'd come at me with anything I'd have been screwed.

He was also Hispanic, and had an ear ring that I later learned was the sign of an El Salvadoran gang.

I got lucky. If my luck had run out, I would've liked a gun.

Nice story, but I'm not sure what it has to do with what I said.

He's saying that living in a decent area doesn't eliminate the possibility of criminal activity...that's what I got out of it, anyway.

I still don't see how that applies to what I'm talking about.

 

[BabaBooey]

Sig Sauer 228 9mm


check out the .40 models

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: CadetLee

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: JEDI

"Concealed special occasion carry"

What gun would you get? would it be a hybrid of pure home and pure daily carry?

I would define that as you know something bad could likely happen during that period.

While you may be ok carrying a .380 normally, if you absolutely know you are going to see or highly have a chance of using the weapon you may want to carry a larger weapon in stopping power or capacity or both.

I'm all for concealed carry, and carrying whatever you want, but if you're going somewhere where you think you'll be shooting your way out, then you probably shouldn't go there in the first place. The way you word it, the only situations that I can think of that fit your description are drug deals and other illegal activity with unscrupulous characters.

OK, I live just south of DC across the Potomac, in one of the richest areas of the country (average income/household). One day I went to a local Chipotle, (which is right next to the nice, modern, clean Reston Town Center), got my food and came out. I found a guy checking out my car. He noticed me when I was about 20 ft away, and GLARED. I mean, eyes wide open, "I'm going to kill you" glare. I immediately dropped eye contact and walked an evasive pattern, and he got in his car and drove off; but if he'd come at me with anything I'd have been screwed.

He was also Hispanic, and had an ear ring that I later learned was the sign of an El Salvadoran gang.

I got lucky. If my luck had run out, I would've liked a gun.

Nice story, but I'm not sure what it has to do with what I said.

He's saying that living in a decent area doesn't eliminate the possibility of criminal activity...that's what I got out of it, anyway.

I still don't see how that applies to what I'm talking about.

See bolded above. You stated that the only situations where you might need a high-powered gun are "illegal activities with unscrupulous characters". I cited a situation where that is untrue.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: CadetLee

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: JEDI

"Concealed special occasion carry"

What gun would you get? would it be a hybrid of pure home and pure daily carry?

I would define that as you know something bad could likely happen during that period.

While you may be ok carrying a .380 normally, if you absolutely know you are going to see or highly have a chance of using the weapon you may want to carry a larger weapon in stopping power or capacity or both.

I'm all for concealed carry, and carrying whatever you want, but if you're going somewhere where you think you'll be shooting your way out, then you probably shouldn't go there in the first place. The way you word it, the only situations that I can think of that fit your description are drug deals and other illegal activity with unscrupulous characters.

OK, I live just south of DC across the Potomac, in one of the richest areas of the country (average income/household). One day I went to a local Chipotle, (which is right next to the nice, modern, clean Reston Town Center), got my food and came out. I found a guy checking out my car. He noticed me when I was about 20 ft away, and GLARED. I mean, eyes wide open, "I'm going to kill you" glare. I immediately dropped eye contact and walked an evasive pattern, and he got in his car and drove off; but if he'd come at me with anything I'd have been screwed.

He was also Hispanic, and had an ear ring that I later learned was the sign of an El Salvadoran gang.

I got lucky. If my luck had run out, I would've liked a gun.

Nice story, but I'm not sure what it has to do with what I said.

He's saying that living in a decent area doesn't eliminate the possibility of criminal activity...that's what I got out of it, anyway.

I still don't see how that applies to what I'm talking about.

you can't be THAT stupid, can you?
of course, this is ATOT, so anything's possible.

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: CadetLee

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: JEDI

"Concealed special occasion carry"

What gun would you get? would it be a hybrid of pure home and pure daily carry?

I would define that as you know something bad could likely happen during that period.

While you may be ok carrying a .380 normally, if you absolutely know you are going to see or highly have a chance of using the weapon you may want to carry a larger weapon in stopping power or capacity or both.

I'm all for concealed carry, and carrying whatever you want, but if you're going somewhere where you think you'll be shooting your way out, then you probably shouldn't go there in the first place. The way you word it, the only situations that I can think of that fit your description are drug deals and other illegal activity with unscrupulous characters.

OK, I live just south of DC across the Potomac, in one of the richest areas of the country (average income/household). One day I went to a local Chipotle, (which is right next to the nice, modern, clean Reston Town Center), got my food and came out. I found a guy checking out my car. He noticed me when I was about 20 ft away, and GLARED. I mean, eyes wide open, "I'm going to kill you" glare. I immediately dropped eye contact and walked an evasive pattern, and he got in his car and drove off; but if he'd come at me with anything I'd have been screwed.

He was also Hispanic, and had an ear ring that I later learned was the sign of an El Salvadoran gang.

I got lucky. If my luck had run out, I would've liked a gun.

Nice story, but I'm not sure what it has to do with what I said.

He's saying that living in a decent area doesn't eliminate the possibility of criminal activity...that's what I got out of it, anyway.

I still don't see how that applies to what I'm talking about.

you can't be THAT stupid, can you?
of course, this is ATOT, so anything's possible.

"...I'm all for concealed carry, and carrying whatever you want, but if you're going somewhere where you think you'll be shooting your way out, then you probably shouldn't go there in the first place."

Maybe you're the one with the low score in reading comprehension? Does that in any way, shape, or form sound like the situation that irishscott was in? Did you understand the point of my post? Did you read the post that I was replying to? Did I ever state, in any way, shape, or form, that concealed carry is not necessary?

 

[OS]

not much discussion on the actual guns, how is the XD?