I hope they disinfected that girls left armFrom the cringe file. Trump has sent out a donation email using pictures of the survivors in their hospital beds. This seems..... tacky. I pray he got permission from her and her family to use her in this way.
Oh great analogy. You've convinced me. I'm giving up all my protection now. I bet you crime happens more than meteor strikes.So do meteor strikes.
More, sure.
https://www.theatlantic.com/technol...ite-strikes-are-actually-quite-common/273211/
But you are specifically worried about a specific subset of crimes happening to you or your loves ones specifically. If crime is not rampant, why do you feel so at risk?
Oh great analogy. You've convinced me. I'm giving up all my protection now. I bet you crime happens more than meteor strikes.
More, sure.
https://www.theatlantic.com/technol...ite-strikes-are-actually-quite-common/273211/
But you are specifically worried about a specific subset of crimes happening to you or your loves ones specifically. If crime is not rampant, why do you feel so at risk?
Your logic is a double edged sword. If your argument is why be worried about things that happen less than school shootings, then your argument is really why be worried about anything that happens less than 50-60 times a year. Which then implies that you should not be worried about school shootings if other things that kill people happen more than that per year. So if he should not be worried about things that hurt/kill people because other things hurt/kill people more often, yours also would be dismissed by your own logic.
Vaguely resembling the cigarettes kill more than guns!! So go do something about it!!
Yup, trucks are a scourge with literally no other reason than to kill. It's horrible.Trucks kill people too, plus those kinder eggs they just ok’d to sell here. They kill kids.
Vaguely resembling the cigarettes kill more than guns!! So go do something about it!!
The argument I compared it with is regularly used by a special someone on this very forum.Yep, his own argument would thus be used against him. Some types of crime do not happen often, thus why care about school shootings when other things happen more often. Jack did not think his argument through.
I am not worried about school shootings. I do think guns are a net-negative for society, but I don't need dead children as part of my argument.Your logic is a double edged sword. If your argument is why be worried about things that happen less than school shootings, then your argument is really why be worried about anything that happens less than 50-60 times a year. Which then implies that you should not be worried about school shootings if other things that kill people happen more than that per year. So if he should not be worried about things that hurt/kill people because other things hurt/kill people more often, yours also would be dismissed by your own logic.
The argument I compared it with is regularly used by a special someone on this very forum.
There's a particular member who is a professed Trump voting liberal, who loves the pee pew tubes, and thinks anyone who doesn't care about tobacco more is a hypocritem. No, it's not Earl....Oh, I have not seen Earl for a very long time.
But, I do believe you may be talking about more than just a specific someone. Its used as an argument when really it is just one part of a much more complex position. When someone only brings up that thing x happens less than thing y, it cannot stop there, because there is always thing z that happens even more. It has to be finished, but more often than not when someone does bring it up, it ends there.
I am not worried about school shootings. I do think guns are a net-negative for society, but I don't need dead children as part of my argument.
I also don't think school shootings should provoke people to want to arm teachers. That's also reactionary and stupid.
There's a particular member who is a professed Trump voting liberal, who loves the pee pew tubes, and thinks anyone who doesn't care about tobacco more is a hypocritem. No, it's not Earl....
He's talking about Spidey, who has apparently switched to another account possibly?Ill be honest, I'm not sure who it is by name. I only really remember people by their picture. If that someone said something stupid and I saw it, then I have probably engaged them.
By your final point, wouldn't that effectively make it a bad idea 100% of the time? Or do you think a 10% (generous) chance of being a positive is somehow worthy of arguing for?Don't doubt that you could make a different argument. Just saying that the argument you used at that specific time was flawed.
You use reactionary as a pejorative here but I'm not sure why. Its totally fine to react to horrific events.
As for arming teachers, there is likely that there could be a net positive argument in my opinion. You could have some teachers that are willing go through training that is funded through charity and then have that gun locked away in a safe. The real risk of having the gun around is accidents. Having it locked away and with a teacher that is armed could make some situations better without increasing the chances of accidents.
In general, I would say arming a teacher is a bad idea about 90% of the time.
He's slow, in the bad ways.He's talking about Spidey, who has apparently switched to another account possibly?
fuck him, fuck him today, fuck him tomorrow, fuck him throughout the remainder of eternity.From the cringe file. Trump has sent out a donation email using pictures of the survivors in their hospital beds. This seems..... tacky. I pray he got permission from her and her family to use her in this way.
He's talking about Spidey, who has apparently switched to another account possibly?
By your final point, wouldn't that effectively make it a bad idea 100% of the time? Or do you think a 10% (generous) chance of being a positive is somehow worthy of arguing for?
Also, anecdotally, teachers complain about students stealing their locked up things. Now imagine it's not a phone, but a gun.
HEY! That's me you're talking about! I'm not slow! I'm special! My mama told me so! AND I think everything spidey says is some grand show of his stupidity (the critic reviews are horrible!)! I also think he's a putz.Did he at one point have some sort of large cat avatar?
All that planning, and the perp is scoping out the scene of his premeditated rampage, because he(or maybe even she) goes there....daily. knows the layout, knows the game plan, could even know when the people's breaks are, when they take a dump, etc....So two things. First, what I meant by bad 90% of the time is that 90% of teachers will be at best useless with a gun, and at worst get more people hurt/killed. That leads to the 2nd, which is that if there were some way to target that 10% then there could be a net benefit. I don't think its impossible, but I also don't hold high hopes for it being done that way either. I personally think we could set up some things that could allow for us to find and weed out the bad, and then keep training up for those 10%
So to me, what would need to be done is to have a gun safe that can only be accessed when an event is triggered. It could be something like having a alarm like what we have for fires, but it trigger an unlock signal that would then allow for the teacher to enter their pin number to access the weapon. Something like that would not be easy or cheap, but I think it could be effective.
Also I am a cost benefit person. For the same reasons I think building a wall is cost ineffective I too think that this would likely end up being too expensive to do. I do think that in net it would reduce dead kids, but at a cost that is too high. I would bet that you too believe there are things we could do that would protect far more kids than gun bans, yet you are likely not willing to do. That is probably because you weigh the costs vs benefit to not be in the right balance.
HEY! That's me you're talking about! I'm not slow! I'm special! My mama told me so! AND I think everything spidey says is some grand show of his stupidity (the critic reviews are horrible!)! I also think he's a putz.
I guess I'm not feeling sweary today. Nobody should get used to that.
But hey, thanks for letting me know what you think of me darling. *butterfly kisses* <--- from a great distance, think of it as more like batting my eyes atchu.