Originally posted by: Gibsons
bacteria is/are the plaque. the bacteria metabolize the sugar to produce acid.
I think there's a correlation between the dentists house payments and the number of cavities you have.
Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Originally posted by: Papagayo
Do you drink bottle water all the time? The tap water is good for your teeth.. they have floride..
You are quite right.
My dentist was very happy about the bottled water craze since it contains no fluoride.
so, i've never had any trouble with my teeth for 25 years. i go to this dentist today (haven't been for three years) and he tells me i have 14 cavities
Originally posted by: desk
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Im getting all 26 fixed this coming thursday. Im 22.
$11,000
Braces caused cavieites in every single one of my teeth along the gumline, i had them from age 13 to age 17 when i pulled them off with pliars. My dentist told me at that time that i had "calcification" along the gumline which was irreversible damage that would eventually decay.
why is your work costing so much?
even for the white fillings (which cost about 30% more then the silver ones), the dentist quoted around $180 per cavity. that would come to less the $5000. are you getting some other work done?
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: desk
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Im getting all 26 fixed this coming thursday. Im 22.
$11,000
Braces caused cavieites in every single one of my teeth along the gumline, i had them from age 13 to age 17 when i pulled them off with pliars. My dentist told me at that time that i had "calcification" along the gumline which was irreversible damage that would eventually decay.
why is your work costing so much?
even for the white fillings (which cost about 30% more then the silver ones), the dentist quoted around $180 per cavity. that would come to less the $5000. are you getting some other work done?
Umm its 8 root canales, 6 extractions, full veneers on the top and dozens of fillings. The decay is at the base of the teeth on the top and bottom right at the gumline, not in traditional places, this requires a LOT more work to deal with.
I got 2nd and 3rd opinions, the lowest quote was $8900 but ill go with my dentist as i trust him more.
I'm going to call you on that one. The last part anyway.Originally posted by: Amused
A healthy diet is nearly irrelvant. How have you been taking care of your teeth? Do you floss daily? Do you brush 3 times a day?
Sugar being bad for teeth is an overhyped myth. ANY starchy foods can cause decay. In fact, bread is worse than sugar.
Also, you haven't been to a dentist in 3 years. That means you haven't had regular cleanings. That also means that mild decay that could have been merely sealed now must be filled.
Originally posted by: Eli
I'm going to call you on that one. The last part anyway.Originally posted by: Amused
A healthy diet is nearly irrelvant. How have you been taking care of your teeth? Do you floss daily? Do you brush 3 times a day?
Sugar being bad for teeth is an overhyped myth. ANY starchy foods can cause decay. In fact, bread is worse than sugar.
Also, you haven't been to a dentist in 3 years. That means you haven't had regular cleanings. That also means that mild decay that could have been merely sealed now must be filled.
Sugars are directly available for the bacteria to metabolize. When they have direct access to simple sugars, there is a population and therefor acid production explosion.
Starches are bad, but they're not going to be as bad because it takes time for the starches to break down into simple sugars.
Sugar being bad for teeth is NOT an "overhyped myth". Where the fsck do you get off saying something like that? Even if starches were worse for your teeth than sugar, it still wouldn't be an "overhyped myth".
Sugar, especially sucrose (table sugar), appears to be required by the oral bacteria for the production of tooth decay. This finding has caused sugar to be widely blamed in the popular press as the primary cause of dental caries. However, caries incidence has recently declined in a time of increasing sugar intake.6 This has led to a reevaluation of caries causation, and sugar is now understood to be only one of the factors in the development of tooth decay.7 Nearly as important as the total amount of sugar intake seems to be the consistency of the sugary foods and the length of time they are in contact with the teeth. Dry and sticky foods tend to stay in contact longer, causing more plaque formation.8 Still, reduction of total dietary sugar is probably the most accepted dietary recommendation for the prevention of dental caries.9
get your xrays and get a second opinion, but don't be surprised with the 2nd dentist telling you that you have 14 cavities.Originally posted by: desk
Originally posted by: Gibsons
bacteria is/are the plaque. the bacteria metabolize the sugar to produce acid.
I think there's a correlation between the dentists house payments and the number of cavities you have.
yeh, i agree there. the guy seemed almost happy, thats why i wanted to punch him. im definitely getting a second opinion before i go back.
Originally posted by: bjc112
That's weird!
I am only 20 and didn't have cavities for all my life.. WEnt to the dentist about a year ago and had like 10!!!
The guy thought most of it was bad original fillings and such, I WAS PISSED!
Ahh, I understand.Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Eli
I'm going to call you on that one. The last part anyway.Originally posted by: Amused
A healthy diet is nearly irrelvant. How have you been taking care of your teeth? Do you floss daily? Do you brush 3 times a day?
Sugar being bad for teeth is an overhyped myth. ANY starchy foods can cause decay. In fact, bread is worse than sugar.
Also, you haven't been to a dentist in 3 years. That means you haven't had regular cleanings. That also means that mild decay that could have been merely sealed now must be filled.
Sugars are directly available for the bacteria to metabolize. When they have direct access to simple sugars, there is a population and therefor acid production explosion.
Starches are bad, but they're not going to be as bad because it takes time for the starches to break down into simple sugars.
Sugar being bad for teeth is NOT an "overhyped myth". Where the fsck do you get off saying something like that? Even if starches were worse for your teeth than sugar, it still wouldn't be an "overhyped myth".
Sugar, especially sucrose (table sugar), appears to be required by the oral bacteria for the production of tooth decay. This finding has caused sugar to be widely blamed in the popular press as the primary cause of dental caries. However, caries incidence has recently declined in a time of increasing sugar intake.6 This has led to a reevaluation of caries causation, and sugar is now understood to be only one of the factors in the development of tooth decay.7 Nearly as important as the total amount of sugar intake seems to be the consistency of the sugary foods and the length of time they are in contact with the teeth. Dry and sticky foods tend to stay in contact longer, causing more plaque formation.8 Still, reduction of total dietary sugar is probably the most accepted dietary recommendation for the prevention of dental caries.9
Breads tend to stick on, and between the teeth far more than most other foods, and it the most eaten food among Americans.
So while sugar is essential to cavity formation, it alone is not the culprit.
I don't spount BS, Eli. I was going on recent findings I read about a few years ago.
Simply blaming sugar is simplistic.
http://www.eufic.org/gb/food/pag/food36/food363.htm
Originally posted by: desk
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: desk
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Im getting all 26 fixed this coming thursday. Im 22.
$11,000
Braces caused cavieites in every single one of my teeth along the gumline, i had them from age 13 to age 17 when i pulled them off with pliars. My dentist told me at that time that i had "calcification" along the gumline which was irreversible damage that would eventually decay.
why is your work costing so much?
even for the white fillings (which cost about 30% more then the silver ones), the dentist quoted around $180 per cavity. that would come to less the $5000. are you getting some other work done?
Umm its 8 root canales, 6 extractions, full veneers on the top and dozens of fillings. The decay is at the base of the teeth on the top and bottom right at the gumline, not in traditional places, this requires a LOT more work to deal with.
I got 2nd and 3rd opinions, the lowest quote was $8900 but ill go with my dentist as i trust him more.
oh...i thought you just had all cavities (i.e. just need fillings). yeh, i guess that kinda work can get pricey.
dude, dentures SUCK! teeth are not disposable. don't buy into that. you get dentures and your jaw bone disingrates and your face changes. you lose vertical dimension which makes you look older and uglier.Originally posted by: Skoorb
Teeth are disposable anyway. I didn't care much for mine as a kid and they look great now. All of my fillings are tooth-colored, so you can't see I have any. Every single mercury amalgam was removed (because they all started to rot underneath) and my teeth are nice and white from bleaching. If they all rot out I'll just have totally fake ones put in. A bad heart sucks. Bad liver sucks. Bad teeth who gives a crap, get fakes ones. Sure it's pricey but it's doable.
Originally posted by: KingPhil
Originally posted by: bjc112
That's weird!
I am only 20 and didn't have cavities for all my life.. WEnt to the dentist about a year ago and had like 10!!!
The guy thought most of it was bad original fillings and such, I WAS PISSED!
Um........ if you haven't had cavities all your life, then how could the 10 be casued by "bad original fillings"??? That would mean you had cavities before?
I'm talking full on teeth implants, drilled into the jaw/skull. That's how you do it.Originally posted by: moshquerade
dude, dentures SUCK! teeth are not disposable. don't buy into that. you get dentures and your jaw bone disingrates and your face changes. you lose vertical dimension which makes you look older and uglier.Originally posted by: Skoorb
Teeth are disposable anyway. I didn't care much for mine as a kid and they look great now. All of my fillings are tooth-colored, so you can't see I have any. Every single mercury amalgam was removed (because they all started to rot underneath) and my teeth are nice and white from bleaching. If they all rot out I'll just have totally fake ones put in. A bad heart sucks. Bad liver sucks. Bad teeth who gives a crap, get fakes ones. Sure it's pricey but it's doable.
not only that dentures don't always stay in that easily.
Originally posted by: desk
the only thing that i can think that caused it was this annoying acid reflux that i have
Originally posted by: desk
Originally posted by: Mo0o
14 cavities? is that like basically every tooth you can possible have a cavity for?
heh...not quite. you can have a cavity in each tooth (32?) and then a cavity between each tooth. so worst case is in the 60's.