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StitchExperimen

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Leiden Classical
Last update : 11/16/2014 00:10 (CET) FROM update : 11/15/2014 00:00 (CET)
8-----Keep The Fire Alive!--4--456,588---58,802 gaining--457,260--47,313
9-----Nordlichter-------------2--429,551---31,765 gaining--430,037--20,090
10----TeAm AnandTech------1--397,786---409,947-----------------------------points in 24 hrs--12,161
11----AMD Users----------------341,452---56,334 leaving--341,875
12----Ukraine--------------------333,550---64,236 leaving--333,621
13----UK BOINC Team----------324,135---73,651 leaving--325,174
14 CA-----------------------------162,562--235,224
 
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GLeeM

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Thanks for the stats, Stitch

--------points in 24 hrs--12,161
We need to pick this up a bit!

AMD Users picked up three points in MOO. The ranking now:
TeAm AnandTech = 153
Crystal Dream = 152
AMD Users = 151

No WUs in Rioja yet (22,581 points behind).
Constellation is out of WUs too (we're only 5,900 points behind!).

I'm doing Leiden now.
 
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salvorhardin

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I added rioja to one of my computers in case it gets work. I started crunching moo wrapper on my gpus. with my current wu times I should get at least 500k ppd. Is there any other project that we're close to the next team and I can use amd gpus? I started crunching leiden for a couple days to help catch the next team, I'll be going back to simap afterwards since I want to crunch as much as I can before the f@h race (want to reach #1 in the team before they shutdown).
 

GLeeM

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I started crunching moo wrapper on my gpus. with my current wu times I should get at least 500k ppd. Is there any other project that we're close to the next team and I can use amd gpus?
I hadn't seen MOO as being possible to get points. I'll switch over and we can see how hard it will be

So, no I don't think there is any other GPU project where we could get points.

Other Updates:
We are now at 154 points! We passed Nordlichter in Leiden for 1 point.

Constellation - we are only 1,701 points from passing Crunching@EVGA. Even though there are no new WUs, the TeAm will easily pass them with "Pending" WUs Let's hope there are no new WUs until after the race!

Leiden Classical - The next team to pass - Keep The Fire Alive! - is only 26,396 away.
 

biodoc

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Constellation - we are only 1,701 points from passing Crunching@EVGA. Even though there are no new WUs, the TeAm will easily pass them with "Pending" WUs Let's hope there are no new WUs until after the race!

We've picked up another 2 points on Constellation!
 

Pokey

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We have passed UK BOINC in production so I expect our points are now safe in Rosetta with 13 days to go. (knock wood)
 

StitchExperimen

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Not enough time to catch 7th place

final results in 12 days, 23 hours, 50 minutes.
Last update : 11/18/2014 00:10 (CET)
7---Brony@Home-------------6---645,117---183,884
8---TeAm AnandTech---------4---461,233---
 
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GLeeM

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Update - I separated into those with possible overtakes and those needing to keep the lead and left out the others:

Project_____above______below
Volpex______1,923_______8,809
Rioja______22,329_______1,755
LHC________49,606_____137,022
Gerasim____87,925_____177,991
MOO_____8,897,619___3,639,315

Project_________points below
Collatz________26,380,934
Constellation_______7,241
Leiden______________3,063
Rosetta___________383,975
Yafu______________157,465


Analysis:
Volpex is not taking new crunchers - we only have three active attached, I wonder if zzuupp and Joe would be willing to help Fardringle with 2,000 more points?

The team that passed us in LHC is slowing down, so might be possible to catch again.
If Rioja gets more WUs we should pass and/or make lead bigger.

salvorhardin thought we maybe could overtake in MOO (surprised me when I looked that it might be possible), I moved to it to see. (I shouldn't be doing this job, I think I asked zzuupp to move from MOO a while back, maybe after he reaches 250M in Collatz he will move back?)

Anyone else have ideas?

Overall, GREAT JOB TeAm!!!!!!!!!

Doing above and beyond what I thought possible a month ago
 
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Fardringle

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I have all of my computers attached to Volpex. The problem is that there just isn't any work available.
 

salvorhardin

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If we keep the production over a million a day we should be able to get another point in moo. seti@netherlands is also increasing their ouput (from 60k avg to 150k today), but I think we should be able to do it by the end of the month.
 

GLeeM

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Somehow I missed that we are at 158 points and only 3 behind the next team!

I have all of my computers attached to Volpex. The problem is that there just isn't any work available.
There are few WUs, but you had 500+ points today :thumbsup: If you can keep that up you will do it!

If we keep the production over a million a day we should be able to get another point in moo. seti@netherlands is also increasing their ouput (from 60k avg to 150k today), but I think we should be able to do it by the end of the month.
I am trying to figure out how to get best ppd on the rig with GTX 560Ti 448core and GTX 970.
The 970 is hanging half way through?
At least I am getting 6,144 point WUs now on the 560 for ~150,000 ppd.
I should get almost 600,000 ppd from the 7950 and GTX 780 together.
 

salvorhardin

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I think you'll get more than that. I'm running on a 5850 and 7950 and expect to get around 600k ppd. The only thing I can think of is updating your drivers and boinc (now at 344.75 and 7.4.27 respectively). I was reading the moo forum and it looks like it wasn't optimized for nvidia towards the beginning of the year. I don't know if that changed with the new opencl app released in september.
 

Fardringle

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There are few WUs, but you had 500+ points today :thumbsup: If you can keep that up you will do it!

Interesting. I just checked the project history on Boincstats and it says I've been getting a steady stream of a few points every day recently, and yet none of my computers have received any new work for at least a month, and the actual project site shows zero recent/pending tasks for me. Oh well, if they want to give me enough credits to push us up the ranks in the race, I won't complain..
 

salvorhardin

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Is it possible to force opencl app on nvidia?

from what I could find they're working on a nvidia opencl app. I don't think there is a way to force it. I looked at the top 100 hosts in moo and the highest nvidia only computer is at #83 with 3 750ti. all the others either had amd only or amd and nvidia on the same machine.
 

GLeeM

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and yet none of my computers have received any new work for at least a month, and the actual project site shows zero recent/pending tasks for me.
I got attached to Volpex and a few WUs!

You have been getting WUs too. They just don't show on the project site unless they are In Progress. No Pending or Valid. iGEM did the same thing ... annoying!
 

StitchExperimen

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Constellation has wu.
Were 10,480 ahead.
Now 18,415 ahead.
Now 23,680 ahead.
33,212

Leiden Classical
Now 39,875 ahead.
 
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GLeeM

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We passed two teams for three points in Volpex
We are now tied for 7th & 8th place with Team Musketeers with 161 points!

We should gain one point in MOO in a day or two. With a little more in MOO we could gain three points before the end, maybe.

Project_____above______below
Rioja______22,329_______1,755
Volpex_____31,154_________227
LHC________60,504_____133,573
Gerasim____71,821_____203,969
MOO_____2,408,431_____702,942

Project_________points below
Collatz________30,715,895
Constellation______42,789
Leiden_____________44,080
Rosetta___________452,379
Yafu______________198,935

:thumbsup:
 

GLeeM

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Directions on how to get WUs in Volpex:

Attach with this address: http://volpexathome.cs.uh.edu/VolPEx/

The last two days WUs have been given in the evening. There is not a steady supply of WUs, but you can get some which will help the Formula Race. The WUs run only for a short time.

Just for the evening, set your regular project to "No new tasks". Increase your "Work buffer" so that Manager will need new tasks. "Update" Volpex to start it asking for new Volpex WUs.

A Volpex WU will automatically run at "High Priority" and suspend your regular WU for the short time it runs, I have not seen one over an hour and most are only a few minutes. Most of the time the WU is in Waiting mode for directions from the server.

It spends time communicating with the server and uses lots of bandwidth (like one gigabyte each evening?) I have almost used up my monthly allotment and so will only be able to do one more evenings worth!

If one or two people could try, it would not affect your regular project much but would help add a needed buffer under us.
 

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salvorhardin

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Congratulations everyone! We gained a point in moo a few hours ago and are now #7.
We're about 23.5 million points behind Boinc@Finland. It looks like they have also increased their output and it would probably take doubling our ppd (up to 4m ppd) in order to pass them before the end of the race.

Edit:
I just did some rough calculations and if we increase our ppd to 3.3m we'll pass US Navy for another point and if we increase our production to 4m we would also pass Boinc@Finland for an additional 3 points.
 
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Plimogz

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I'm finding that I get about 10% better throughput on Moo by running 2 WUs at a time per GPU with an app_info file. Can somebody tell me of changes I can make to the Moo computing preferences to further increase PPD? The have some interesting options in there, but I when I tried to fiddle with them earlier, I didn't have any success.
 

GLeeM

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Boinc@Finland. It looks like they have also increased their output
It's one guy with two AMD cards and eight computers doing CPU WUs! When I looked at his computer list it didn't look like he had recently added more ... his increase, I think, was just a good day or two, but it is still a too large hurdle to overcome, probably.

I did get the GTX 970 to run without hanging very often. My ppd might get up to 850,000+.

I am going to continue for a while to see if more join in the fun.

Regardless, we can still keep #7 if we watch close and don't let any overtakes happen.

I figure these need to be watched:

Volpex_____________227
Rioja____________2,153
Constellation___57,074
Leiden__________47,492
Milkyway_____9,176,820


With today's numbers, Milkyway will be overtaken before the end, but we can easily respond in time.

Great Job TeAm
 

Fardringle

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I have my one and only GPU running Moo, but it's only a wimpy HD5670 so it only gets around 30-35K points per day.

All of my regular computers are still set to grab Volpex and Rioja jobs whenever any are available, and run Yafu and Yoyo the rest of the time (keeping our leads there and getting me closer to my points goals). I can move them to other CPU projects for a little while if needed.
 
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