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StefanR5R

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formula-boinc.org failed to pull stats for the last 20 hours. (But free-dc.org got some more recent stats.)

I hope that those who run scripts which hammer the server remember to switch the scripts off at 20:59 UTC or earlier, such that the FB site scripts have a chance to get responses.

I am running scripts myself, but they don't hammer the server; they almost only watch my local tasks queues and rarely force a project update, based on defined conditions. My clients already cause enough traffic by themselves. Hence I will disable networking at least half an hour before the end of the sprint, and keep it disabled for an hour after the end.

Code:
user                      credits   % of total
----------------------------------------------
Mumps [MM]                530,326        9.9 %
phoenicis                 391,143        7.3 %
glennpat                  317,620        5.9 %
xii5ku                    311,832        5.8 %
crashtech                 230,848        4.3 %
HK-Steve                  184,315        3.4 %
Woodles                   163,917        3.1 %
CoolAtchOk                159,927        3.0 %
Bryan                     152,675        2.8 %
boceli                    151,536        2.8 %
----------------------------------------------
total of top 100 users  5,361,799      100.0 %

Code:
user                      credits   % of total
----------------------------------------------
Mumps [MM]                528,748       13.2 %
xii5ku                    291,181        7.3 %
glennpat                  236,913        5.9 %
phoenicis                 199,956        5.0 %
CoolAtchOk                175,219        4.4 %
cineon_lut [BlackOps]     139,418        3.5 %
Woodles                   133,261        3.3 %
crashtech                 116,985        2.9 %
HK-Steve                  115,269        2.9 %
alnitak2019               107,756        2.7 %
----------------------------------------------
total of top 100 users  4,003,399      100.0 %

*) ;-)
 
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TennesseeTony

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I have an idea.... if we happen to be near our computers, we can all disable networking a few minutes before the top of each hour, then re-enable a few minutes later? That might help get a stats update through?

And congrats for being able to rub elbows with the mighty Mumps, Stefan!
 
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TennesseeTony

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Before this is all over, I just looked at my UPS LCD Display. With 144 threads on ODLK across 5 computers, the load is only about 510 watts. CPU temps are pretty low as well.

Anyone else setup to confirm low power draw for this project?
 

StefanR5R

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I have an idea.... if we happen to be near our computers, we can all disable networking a few minutes before the top of each hour, then re-enable a few minutes later? That might help get a stats update through?
I will from now on disable networking 2 minutes before the hour, and re-enable it 10 minutes after the hour, like so:
Code:
#!/bin/bash

hosts=(
    "hansel"
    "gretel"
    "hag"
    "hag:31421"
    "hag:31422"
    "hag:31423"
)

password="my_secret_gui_control_password"

while true
do
    printf " suspending networking at "
    date
    for host in ${hosts[*]}
    do
        boinccmd --host ${host} --passwd ${password} --set_network_mode never
    done
    sleep 12m

    printf "   enabling networking at "
    date
    for host in ${hosts[*]}
    do
        boinccmd --host ${host} --passwd ${password} --set_network_mode auto
    done
    sleep 48m
done
(Edit, I will stop this script after 20:10 UTC and arrange for a longer period of suspended networking before and after 20:59 UTC, as mentioned.)

And congrats for being able to rub elbows with the mighty Mumps, Stefan!
Hmm, if I use really good field glasses, I may be able to discern Mumps's elbow.

Anyone else setup to confirm low power draw for this project?
I have power meters in front of several hosts (GPU-less Xeons, as well as hosts with now idle GPUs). This project definitely isn't a power virus like, say, PrimeGrid, but power draw isn't remarkably low either. OTOH, none of my hosts go ballistic at projects like PrimeGrid, like many desktop PCs may do without power limits enforced by their BIOS. Maybe that's why the difference I am seeing with ODLK isn't overwhelmingly big.
 
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ao_ika_red

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Before this is all over, I just looked at my UPS LCD Display. With 144 threads on ODLK across 5 computers, the load is only about 510 watts. CPU temps are pretty low as well.

Anyone else setup to confirm low power draw for this project?
My laptop is just purring as well, even though ambient temperature is about 32°C in the afternoon.
 

StefanR5R

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Here is a simple script which shows how many tasks
  • are currently downloading or stalled in download,
  • have finished downloading (and are ready to run, or running, or suspended),
  • are currently being uploaded or stalled in upload,
  • have finished uploading and are ready to be reported.
To adapt this to your own hosts, just edit the top of the file where the list of host names (or hostname:guiport if you use multiple instances on the same host) and the remote control password are defined.
Code:
#!/bin/bash

hosts=(
    "hansel"
    "gretel"
    "hag"
    "hag:31421"
    "hag:31422"
    "hag:31423"
)

password="my_secret_gui_control_password"

downloading=0
downloaded=0
uploading=0
uploaded=0

total_downloading=0
total_downloaded=0
total_uploading=0
total_uploaded=0

printf " dl'ing/ dl'ed/ uploading/ uploaded\n-----------------------------------\n"

for host in ${hosts[*]}
do
    tasks=$(boinccmd --host ${host} --passwd ${password} --get_tasks)

    downloading=$(grep "state: downloading" <<< "${tasks}" | wc -l)
    downloaded=$(grep "state: downloaded" <<< "${tasks}" | wc -l)
    uploading=$(grep "state: uploading" <<< "${tasks}" | wc -l)
    uploaded=$(grep "state: uploaded" <<< "${tasks}" | wc -l)

    printf "%12s %4d  %4d  %4d  %4d\n" "${host}" $downloading $downloaded $uploading $uploaded
    ((total_downloading += $downloading))
    ((total_downloaded += $downloaded))
    ((total_uploading += $uploading))
    ((total_uploaded += $uploaded))
done

printf -- "-----------------------------------\n            %5d %5d %5d %5d\n\n" \
    $total_downloading $total_downloaded $total_uploading $total_uploaded
printf "= %d to do, %d done, %d total on " \
    $(($total_downloading + $total_downloaded)) $(($total_uploading + $total_uploaded)) \
    $(($total_downloading + $total_downloaded + $total_uploading + $total_uploaded))
date
 

StefanR5R

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What's worse than no stats updates?
Incomplete updates!

At 16:00 UTC, the following teams had an update at the FB sprint page:
SUSA, CNT, LAF, Gridcoin, BOINC@Poland, SETI.Germany.

All other teams of leagues 1, 2, and 3 still have the same stats which they had at the last (and apparently complete) update at Saturday, 15:00 UTC. Many of these teams have 0 points or few points though, so some of these certainly didn't have anything to update for real.

ODLK team IDs of the teams which were updated:
20, 15, 14, 26, 25, 13.

Our own team ID is higher (32), but for example RKN with the rather low team ID 11 did not have an update, even though they are probably still producing since yesterday's update. So there is no obvious pattern for which teams had updates and which not, other than only league 1 teams were lucky and that 5 of these 6 teams were the top 5 teams of FB season 2107.
 

StefanR5R

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Incomplete updates!
Oh wait... Updates were still proceding after I last checked. (This most certainly means that the stats of different teams were pulled at very different times.)

I need to find out how much time the FB site is allowing itself for pulling stats.
 

StefanR5R

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The stats are working now, it appears.

I have been watching the stats page in 5 minutes intervals. There was an update across all teams of all leagues happening between 17:20 UTC and 17:25 UTC, and another complete update between 18:20 UTC and 18:25 UTC.

At all other 5 minutes intervals, there were no updates for any team.

Edit, the next updates happened between 19:20...19:25 UTC, and between 20:25...20:30 UTC.

In other words, we should look for final stats no earlier than 21:25 UTC edit 21:30 UTC. (It already happened at the Rakesearch sprint that the stats were updated for a last time quite a while after the actual end of the sprint.)
 
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Orange Kid

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ODLK Final...……..maybe
What a long strange race it's been. Slow to fetch and send work, long periods between stats. I'll guess the admin on this one is glad to see it end.
Formula Boinc has gotten a black eye on this choice for a sprint project. They need to start talking with admins to see if they even want this kind of onslaught.
Anyway….congrats to all who gallantly forged on and to the new members on the TeAm, thanks. Let's hope these numbers stick.

1 TeAm AnandTech
25 ___2,648,259
2 SETI.USA 18 ___2,506,122
3 BOINC@AUSTRALIA 15 ___661,647
4 Czech National Team 12 ___651,509
5 UK BOINC Team 10 ___531,553
6 Russia Team 8 ___490,290
7 Rechenkraft.net 6 ___464,287
8 Overclock.net 4 ___458,966
9 L'Alliance Francophone 2 ___113,529
10 Planet 3DNow! 1 ___88,990

From FreeDC
xii5ku 676,337
phoenicis 592,403
crashtech 374,059
biodoc 183,655
10esseeTony 145,075
[H]Skillz 120,294
motqalden 113,741
OrangeKid 86,290
Ken_g6 60,517
iwajabitw 42,623
zzuupp 38,176
Howdy2u2 29,814
GLeeM 24,750
Tejas 23,558
Kiska 9,889
Rudy Toody 7,405
MarcelliusIkaP 6,947
Fardringle 1,395

….and the F1 results
Russia
1.Lewis Hamilton
2.Valtteri Bottas
3.Sebastian Vettel
 

StefanR5R

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There was another stats update after 21:35 UTC / before 21:40 UTC, but ranks didn't change anymore in any of the three leagues... except for OCN overtaking RKN at the last minutes.

The last 18 hours,
top ten teams of league 1:



Congratulations to our extended TeAm for Gold! Wow!

Good job by the Australians too, beating CNT by a narrow margin to Bronze.

And congratulations to Crunching@EVGA for Silver in league 2! That was close.

But huge congratulations to [H]ard|OCP for Gold + Gold + Silver, and also for some serious precision work to distribute resources even without stats available for many hours! Mindblowing.

--------
Edit, when the ODLK marathon stats have their next update, we shall advance by another rank = another 2 points, passing Boinc@Taiwan.

Edit 2, the data points in my diagram are backdated to the corresponding full hour. I actually captured the 15 h point at 16:08 UTC, the 16 h point at 17:08, the 17 h point at 18:08, the 18 h point at 19:08, the 19 h point at 19:25, the 20 h point at 20:30, and the final 21 h point at 21:40 UTC.
 
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Rudy Toody

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I will not participate in another sprint until the format is fixed.

Right now, it's like when a caravan of racing teams pulls into city and, without warning, races through the streets.
 

StefanR5R

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It's sad that almost 2/3 of my work isn't counted for the sprint.
Sure? Everything which was validated before yesterday 21:00 UTC was pulled into the sprint stats by the FB site. Free-dc pulls stats on a different schedule.
 

biodoc

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I will not participate in another sprint until the format is fixed.

Right now, it's like when a caravan of racing teams pulls into city and, without warning, races through the streets.

I understand your point but oddly enough, the "mayor" on ODLK wants us to stay!

"Dear participants!

Sprint successfully completed.
Many thanks to everyone for participating.
Please stay with us."
 

ao_ika_red

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Sure? Everything which was validated before yesterday 21:00 UTC was pulled into the sprint stats by the FB site. Free-dc pulls stats on a different schedule.
I based my assumption on the difference between my own free-dc stats and my personal odlk result. Hopefully I was wrong.
 

Skillz

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I will not participate in another sprint until the format is fixed.

Right now, it's like when a caravan of racing teams pulls into city and, without warning, races through the streets.

It's so much fun breaking project servers/networks on these things though! Don't let your team down now, they need you. 3rd place over all is RIGHT THERE! Just take it!

It's sad that almost 2/3 of my work isn't counted for the sprint.

Maybe it didn't count towards the Sprint, but it still helped the standings in the Marathon.
 

TennesseeTony

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Stefan, you might as well run ODLK again on a few machines, for a few hours. You're too close to being our first millionaire on that project not to.
 

StefanR5R

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I had some continue running through the night without paying attention to my score. This is what I am seeing right now:



Plus a few thousand pending validation, and almost 200 mistakenly listed "in progress" because of scheduler requests gone wrong.

Though I am merely the 3rd millionaire, after @Rudy Toody (June 21) and @emoga (January 2).
 
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