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Genx87

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Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: glenn1
Fox News Admits Bias

Why is this so earth-shattering? Everyone has bias, it's stupid to claim otherwise. Being able to control that bias is the hard part. I'll let others make the arguments for how well or poorly Fox and other news organizations have been meeting that second goal.

One could even make a reasonable argument that a no bias policy is not necessarily a goal every news organization should strive for since it would create a homogenized, bland product in a marketplace of ideas.

WRONG! no bias means that there is no attempt to withold information, or putforth information with the goal of furthering an agenda. information should be reported purely on the basis that it is an important event which has occurred

Oh you mean like newsweek or danny rather? Two fine examples of liberal bias.

kthxbye

 

Genx87

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Apr 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: Giancarlo
Originally posted by: KidViciou$

WRONG! no bias means that there is no attempt to withold information, or putforth information with the goal of furthering an agenda. information should be reported purely on the basis that it is an important event which has occurred

And you think you on the left are much more capable of that? I think not.

a HELL of a lot more capable than the people at fox!

How would you know? You dont even watch Fox by your own admission.
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: Giancarlo
Originally posted by: KidViciou$

WRONG! no bias means that there is no attempt to withold information, or putforth information with the goal of furthering an agenda. information should be reported purely on the basis that it is an important event which has occurred
And you think you on the left are much more capable of that? I think not.
a HELL of a lot more capable than the people at fox!
How would you know? You dont even watch Fox by your own admission.
Doesn't take much brain power to reach that conclusion. FOX is the lowest common denominator.
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: Giancarlo
Originally posted by: KidViciou$

WRONG! no bias means that there is no attempt to withold information, or putforth information with the goal of furthering an agenda. information should be reported purely on the basis that it is an important event which has occurred
And you think you on the left are much more capable of that? I think not.
a HELL of a lot more capable than the people at fox!
How would you know? You dont even watch Fox by your own admission.
Doesn't take much brain power to reach that conclusion. FOX is the lowest common denominator.


Might not take a lot of brain power but without viewing it how can you possibly come to the conclusion?

 

rahvin

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So you don't watch it, but you are certain that FOX is the lowest common denominator? I definately agree with you that it doesn't take that much brain power to reach that conclusion, in fact it takes none.

All news sources are biased, the good ones admit they are, that's why I like NPR.
 

KidViciou$

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: Giancarlo
Originally posted by: KidViciou$

WRONG! no bias means that there is no attempt to withold information, or putforth information with the goal of furthering an agenda. information should be reported purely on the basis that it is an important event which has occurred

And you think you on the left are much more capable of that? I think not.

a HELL of a lot more capable than the people at fox!

How would you know? You dont even watch Fox by your own admission.

WRONG! my dad watches fox non-stop, so i'm able to catch their programming and see right through all their crap. i don't watch it in the sense that i don't tune into them to get my news, and i don't watch their programming on a regular basis
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: Giancarlo
Originally posted by: KidViciou$

WRONG! no bias means that there is no attempt to withold information, or putforth information with the goal of furthering an agenda. information should be reported purely on the basis that it is an important event which has occurred

And you think you on the left are much more capable of that? I think not.

a HELL of a lot more capable than the people at fox!

How would you know? You dont even watch Fox by your own admission.

WRONG! my dad watches fox non-stop, so i'm able to catch their programming and see right through all their crap. i don't watch it in the sense that i don't tune into them to get my news, and i don't watch their programming on a regular basis


You sure like to tell people they are WRONG.

So you were telling us a lie earlier when you said "i don't watch network "news" because it has become editorials instead of facts".

Sounds like you have a credibility issue now.
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: Giancarlo
Originally posted by: KidViciou$

WRONG! no bias means that there is no attempt to withold information, or putforth information with the goal of furthering an agenda. information should be reported purely on the basis that it is an important event which has occurred
And you think you on the left are much more capable of that? I think not.
a HELL of a lot more capable than the people at fox!
How would you know? You dont even watch Fox by your own admission.
Doesn't take much brain power to reach that conclusion. FOX is the lowest common denominator.
Might not take a lot of brain power but without viewing it how can you possibly come to the conclusion?
Viewing it one time is all that's needed. Or, poke around http://www.mediamatters.org or watch Outfoxed.

I don't need to eat a pile of sh*t to know it's going to taste bad.
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
41,091
513
126
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: Giancarlo
Originally posted by: KidViciou$

WRONG! no bias means that there is no attempt to withold information, or putforth information with the goal of furthering an agenda. information should be reported purely on the basis that it is an important event which has occurred
And you think you on the left are much more capable of that? I think not.
a HELL of a lot more capable than the people at fox!
How would you know? You dont even watch Fox by your own admission.
Doesn't take much brain power to reach that conclusion. FOX is the lowest common denominator.
Might not take a lot of brain power but without viewing it how can you possibly come to the conclusion?
Viewing it one time is all that's needed. Or, poke around http://www.mediamatters.org or watch Outfoxed.

Outfoxed?

Laughable, those bumbling idiots cant even figure out a Fox affiliate is not FNC.

I don't need to eat a pile of sh*t to know it's going to taste bad.

But you need to at least see it.





 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
58,686
3
0
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: Giancarlo
Originally posted by: KidViciou$

WRONG! no bias means that there is no attempt to withold information, or putforth information with the goal of furthering an agenda. information should be reported purely on the basis that it is an important event which has occurred
And you think you on the left are much more capable of that? I think not.
a HELL of a lot more capable than the people at fox!
How would you know? You dont even watch Fox by your own admission.
Doesn't take much brain power to reach that conclusion. FOX is the lowest common denominator.
Might not take a lot of brain power but without viewing it how can you possibly come to the conclusion?
Viewing it one time is all that's needed. Or, poke around http://www.mediamatters.org or watch Outfoxed.
Outfoxed?

Laughable, those bumbling idiots cant even figure out a Fox affiliate is not FNC.
Sounds like you need to pratice what you preach. You obviously haven't seen it.

I don't need to eat a pile of sh*t to know it's going to taste bad.
But you need to at least see it.
No, I don't. I've crapped enough in my life to know.
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: Genx87
Sounds like you need to pratice what you preach. You obviously haven't seen it.
Really, who were the Fox producers they used as their sources?
They used actual FOX News memos from Ailes, himself, along with hours and hours and hours and hours of tapes of FOX News coverage and commentary shows.
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Genx87
Sounds like you need to pratice what you preach. You obviously haven't seen it.
Really, who were the Fox producers they used as their sources?
They used actual FOX News memos from Ailes, himself, along with hours and hours and hours and hours of tapes of FOX News coverage and commentary shows.

Commentary shows lol

btw who were the producers again?

 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: conjur
I don't know off-hand. I'd have to watch it again.

how about these

? Alexander Kippen is referred to as a ?former FOX News producer? when in fact he was never employed by FOX News Channel. He was an employee of WTTG-TV, a FOX affiliate** in Washington, DC.

? Frank O'Donnell is referred to as a ?FOX News producer? in film materials, which is factually incorrect. O?Donnell worked for FOX affiliate WTTG** from 1984 ? 1991 and was never a FOX News Channel employee.

? Jon Du Pre was hired in 1999 as a reporter for FNC?s Los Angeles bureau, not an anchor as the film material states. His contract was not renewed in 2002 because, as his personnel file states, he was considered to be a weak field correspondent and could not do live shots. At the time his contract was not renewed, Du Pre was applying for an anchor position on FOX News Channel.

? Clara Frenk was a pool booker, not a ?producer? in the FOX News Channel Washington, D.C., bureau. She worked at FNC from February 1998 until March 1999 and expressed no concern about the editorial process while she was employed here.



Outfoxed is laughable already without considering who funded the project then it moves into hysterical.

 

KidViciou$

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: Giancarlo
Originally posted by: KidViciou$

WRONG! no bias means that there is no attempt to withold information, or putforth information with the goal of furthering an agenda. information should be reported purely on the basis that it is an important event which has occurred

And you think you on the left are much more capable of that? I think not.

a HELL of a lot more capable than the people at fox!

How would you know? You dont even watch Fox by your own admission.

WRONG! my dad watches fox non-stop, so i'm able to catch their programming and see right through all their crap. i don't watch it in the sense that i don't tune into them to get my news, and i don't watch their programming on a regular basis


You sure like to tell people they are WRONG.

So you were telling us a lie earlier when you said "i don't watch network "news" because it has become editorials instead of facts".

Sounds like you have a credibility issue now.

WRONG! "I don't watch" means i don't sit down, tune into the channel, and watch a program for 30 mins.

What i do is while eating when my dad is watching crap like hannity & colmes, or the o'reilly factor, i will listen to the crap that spews forth from the tv, but once i'm done eating, i will go back to my regularly scheduled activities

that allows me enough time ~10 - 15 mins to form my opinion about the fox news channel "shows"

and i'm not talking about the headline news, where they read the top headlines, i'm talking about hte majority of their programming which are shows
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: Giancarlo
Originally posted by: KidViciou$

WRONG! no bias means that there is no attempt to withold information, or putforth information with the goal of furthering an agenda. information should be reported purely on the basis that it is an important event which has occurred

And you think you on the left are much more capable of that? I think not.

a HELL of a lot more capable than the people at fox!

How would you know? You dont even watch Fox by your own admission.

WRONG! my dad watches fox non-stop, so i'm able to catch their programming and see right through all their crap. i don't watch it in the sense that i don't tune into them to get my news, and i don't watch their programming on a regular basis


You sure like to tell people they are WRONG.

So you were telling us a lie earlier when you said "i don't watch network "news" because it has become editorials instead of facts".

Sounds like you have a credibility issue now.

WRONG! "I don't watch" means i don't sit down, tune into the channel, and watch a program for 30 mins.

What i do is while eating when my dad is watching crap like hannity & colmes, or the o'reilly factor, i will listen to the crap that spews forth from the tv, but once i'm done eating, i will go back to my regularly scheduled activities

WRONG! Either you watch it or you dont.



 

KidViciou$

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Wrong again dude, and btw, i have seen entire shows of these programs which is WHY i don't watch it now! i know what they are
 

Genx87

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Apr 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Wrong again dude, and btw, i have seen entire shows of these programs which is WHY i don't watch it now! i know what they are

WRONG! You either watch them or you dont. You said you dont watch them yet admit that you do.

Credibility is out the door.
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Wrong again dude, and btw, i have seen entire shows of these programs which is WHY i don't watch it now! i know what they are

WRONG! You either watch them or you dont. You said you dont watch them yet admit that you do.

Credibility is out the door.
He said he doesn't watch them. That's PRESENT TENSE. He WATCHED them BEFORE (PAST TENSE).

Get it?
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Wrong again dude, and btw, i have seen entire shows of these programs which is WHY i don't watch it now! i know what they are

WRONG! You either watch them or you dont. You said you dont watch them yet admit that you do.

Credibility is out the door.
He said he doesn't watch them. That's PRESENT TENSE. He WATCHED them BEFORE (PAST TENSE).

Get it?


WRONG! "I don't watch" means i don't sit down, tune into the channel, and watch a program for 30 mins.

What i do is while eating when my dad is watching crap like hannity & colmes, or the o'reilly factor, i will listen to the crap that spews forth from the tv, but once i'm done eating, i will go back to my regularly scheduled activities

that allows me enough time ~10 - 15 mins to form my opinion about the fox news channel "shows"


Get it?

 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
58,686
3
0
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: conjur
I don't know off-hand. I'd have to watch it again.
how about these

? Alexander Kippen is referred to as a ?former FOX News producer? when in fact he was never employed by FOX News Channel. He was an employee of WTTG-TV, a FOX affiliate** in Washington, DC.

? Frank O'Donnell is referred to as a ?FOX News producer? in film materials, which is factually incorrect. O?Donnell worked for FOX affiliate WTTG** from 1984 ? 1991 and was never a FOX News Channel employee.
FOX Television Stations owns and operates WTTG. FTS is a subsidiary of News Corp. Ailes/Murdoch have issued edicts down to the affiliates in the past as far as what news they'll cover.

It may be ambiguous but Outfoxed didn't claim they worked for FOX News Channel. They said FOX News producer which would fall under FOX Television Stations.

? Jon Du Pre was hired in 1999 as a reporter for FNC?s Los Angeles bureau, not an anchor as the film material states. His contract was not renewed in 2002 because, as his personnel file states, he was considered to be a weak field correspondent and could not do live shots. At the time his contract was not renewed, Du Pre was applying for an anchor position on FOX News Channel.

? Clara Frenk was a pool booker, not a ?producer? in the FOX News Channel Washington, D.C., bureau. She worked at FNC from February 1998 until March 1999 and expressed no concern about the editorial process while she was employed here.


Outfoxed is laughable already without considering who funded the project then it moves into hysterical.
First off, you expect me to believe FAUX itself?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,125437,00.html

You should credit your sources.


As for what Outfoxed says of its sources:
http://www.outfoxed.org/FeaturedInterviewees.php
Clara Frenk

Clara Frenk has been a political producer, booker and writer for over 10 years. Her broadcast experience includes ABC News (television and radio), CNN, Fox Morning News, CNBC. She has been a featured speaker at the yearly Campaigns and Elections seminars, where she has taught political professionals message shaping and how to book clients on cable and network television and radio. She is currently a freelance producer living in the Washington, D.C. area. She also runs her Web site, www.dcmediagirl.com.

But, this is just the typical right-wing m.o. Attack the messenger and ignore the content. The content of what these people say are dead-on.
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: conjur
I don't know off-hand. I'd have to watch it again.
how about these

? Alexander Kippen is referred to as a ?former FOX News producer? when in fact he was never employed by FOX News Channel. He was an employee of WTTG-TV, a FOX affiliate** in Washington, DC.

? Frank O'Donnell is referred to as a ?FOX News producer? in film materials, which is factually incorrect. O?Donnell worked for FOX affiliate WTTG** from 1984 ? 1991 and was never a FOX News Channel employee.
FOX Television Stations owns and operates WTTG. FTS is a subsidiary of News Corp. Ailes/Murdoch have issued edicts down to the affiliates in the past as far as what news they'll cover.

It may be ambiguous but Outfoxed didn't claim they worked for FOX News Channel. They said FOX News producer which would fall under FOX Television Stations.

? Jon Du Pre was hired in 1999 as a reporter for FNC?s Los Angeles bureau, not an anchor as the film material states. His contract was not renewed in 2002 because, as his personnel file states, he was considered to be a weak field correspondent and could not do live shots. At the time his contract was not renewed, Du Pre was applying for an anchor position on FOX News Channel.

? Clara Frenk was a pool booker, not a ?producer? in the FOX News Channel Washington, D.C., bureau. She worked at FNC from February 1998 until March 1999 and expressed no concern about the editorial process while she was employed here.


Outfoxed is laughable already without considering who funded the project then it moves into hysterical.
First off, you expect me to believe FAUX itself?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,125437,00.html

You should credit your sources.


As for what Outfoxed says of its sources:
http://www.outfoxed.org/FeaturedInterviewees.php
Clara Frenk

Clara Frenk has been a political producer, booker and writer for over 10 years. Her broadcast experience includes ABC News (television and radio), CNN, Fox Morning News, CNBC. She has been a featured speaker at the yearly Campaigns and Elections seminars, where she has taught political professionals message shaping and how to book clients on cable and network television and radio. She is currently a freelance producer living in the Washington, D.C. area. She also runs her Web site, www.dcmediagirl.com.

But, this is just the typical right-wing m.o. Attack the messenger and ignore the content. The content of what these people say are dead-on.


Who else would you go to to find out what they did? Their former employer certainly would know about what they did than some paid lackey of moveon.org.


 

Steeplerot

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employers lie for their own benefit, we all know profit is #1 in the face of truth in this country.

welcome to the real world of businessmen.
 
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