Fox News inaccuracies

Beattie

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Does anyone here have any actual proof of things that were reported on Fox News that werent true.

People always complain about how slanted it is for the conservatives, and they do run stuff that's pro-conservative and just ignore the bad that they do. But it doesnt seem to me that they actually have ever reported on things that werent true to bolster their side. Does anyone have any linkage or information to the contrary?
 
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Originally posted by: Beattie
Does anyone here have any actual proof of things that were reported on Fox News that werent true.

People always complain about how slanted it is for the conservatives, and they do run stuff that's pro-conservative and just ignore the bad that they do. But it doesnt seem to me that they actually have ever reported on things that werent true to bolster their side. Does anyone have any linkage or information to the contrary?

I know statistics are starting to show that the 'Fox haters' are on the fringe, just like everything else...they hate the Bush Doctrine, but employ it themselves--you're with them, or against them...no in-between.
 

Rob9874

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Originally posted by: Beattie
Does anyone here have any actual proof of things that were reported on Fox News that werent true.

People always complain about how slanted it is for the conservatives, and they do run stuff that's pro-conservative and just ignore the bad that they do. But it doesnt seem to me that they actually have ever reported on things that werent true to bolster their side. Does anyone have any linkage or information to the contrary?

I don't even think it's that slanted for the conservatives. You have Hannity and O'Reilly, who are admitted conservatives. But I think the network as a whole has decided not to put the obligatory left spin on everything, so in contrast to news like CBS, it appears to be more conservative, because they actually listen to the other side, and don't automatically bash the Republican candidates. I think the public has gotten so used to the news doing that, and they're suspicious of a news network that doesn't. Fox News is 1 new source out of hundreds that decides not to be blatantly liberal, and the libs cannot stand it!
 

dullard

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I suppose you could go right to their slogan "fair and balanced". We know it isn't balanced - just compare the air time of conservatives vs air time of liberals. Thus every commercial break Fox lies. Is that considered an inaccuracy?

I know what you are getting to though. Most of what Fox News covers is people's opinions. An opinion cannot be accurate nor can it be inaccurate. Thus most of what Fox News covers cannot be put into your black and white world of truth/untruths. Therefore, you'll have a hard time finding examples of out right inaccuracies.

Fox News is slanted, not by making up false news stories (which they may or may not do), but due to choice of people they hire and people they interview. Suppose you wanted to make an unbiased show which interviews 4 people. It would make sense to bring in 4 experts, who can all clearly state their viewpoints. And 2 of those experts should be conservative, and 2 should be liberal. Then each should get equal time. Fox News (as well as other news organizations) doesn't do that. They may have it 3 vs 1. Or they may put a highly vocal host that makes it 3 vs 2. Or they might not give equal air time to both sides. Or they might make it a fair 2 vs 2, but choose one side that is filled with idiots who cannot debate and the other side with clear spoken experts. Any of those tactics can and are used by Fox News to make the result a conservative station.
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: Rob9874
Originally posted by: Beattie
Does anyone here have any actual proof of things that were reported on Fox News that werent true.

People always complain about how slanted it is for the conservatives, and they do run stuff that's pro-conservative and just ignore the bad that they do. But it doesnt seem to me that they actually have ever reported on things that werent true to bolster their side. Does anyone have any linkage or information to the contrary?

I don't even think it's that slanted for the conservatives. You have Hannity and O'Reilly, who are admitted conservatives. But I think the network as a whole has decided not to put the obligatory left spin on everything, so in contrast to news like CBS, it appears to be more conservative, because they actually listen to the other side, and don't automatically bash the Republican candidates. I think the public has gotten so used to the news doing that, and they're suspicious of a news network that doesn't. Fox News is 1 new source out of hundreds that decides not to be blatantly liberal, and the libs cannot stand it!

O'Reilly's an admitted conservative? I don't think so.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Rob9874
Originally posted by: Beattie
Does anyone here have any actual proof of things that were reported on Fox News that werent true.

People always complain about how slanted it is for the conservatives, and they do run stuff that's pro-conservative and just ignore the bad that they do. But it doesnt seem to me that they actually have ever reported on things that werent true to bolster their side. Does anyone have any linkage or information to the contrary?

I don't even think it's that slanted for the conservatives. You have Hannity and O'Reilly, who are admitted conservatives. But I think the network as a whole has decided not to put the obligatory left spin on everything, so in contrast to news like CBS, it appears to be more conservative, because they actually listen to the other side, and don't automatically bash the Republican candidates. I think the public has gotten so used to the news doing that, and they're suspicious of a news network that doesn't. Fox News is 1 new source out of hundreds that decides not to be blatantly liberal, and the libs cannot stand it!

O'Reilly's an admitted conservative? I don't think so.
No he's in denial.

 

marcello

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Originally posted by: Rob9874
I don't even think it's that slanted for the conservatives. You have Hannity and O'Reilly, who are admitted conservatives. But I think the network as a whole has decided not to put the obligatory left spin on everything, so in contrast to news like CBS, it appears to be more conservative, because they actually listen to the other side, and don't automatically bash the Republican candidates. I think the public has gotten so used to the news doing that, and they're suspicious of a news network that doesn't. Fox News is 1 new source out of hundreds that decides not to be blatantly liberal, and the libs cannot stand it!

This is just like the Bush campaign. You take your faults, and then make it seem like it's your competitors shortcomings. Fox does everything you just stated. Just as Bush attacked Kerry's military record when Bush's is the one that is pathetic and shameful.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: marcello
Originally posted by: Rob9874
I don't even think it's that slanted for the conservatives. You have Hannity and O'Reilly, who are admitted conservatives. But I think the network as a whole has decided not to put the obligatory left spin on everything, so in contrast to news like CBS, it appears to be more conservative, because they actually listen to the other side, and don't automatically bash the Republican candidates. I think the public has gotten so used to the news doing that, and they're suspicious of a news network that doesn't. Fox News is 1 new source out of hundreds that decides not to be blatantly liberal, and the libs cannot stand it!

This is just like the Bush campaign. You take your faults, and then make it seem like it's your competitors shortcomings. Fox does everything you just stated. Just as Bush attacked Kerry's military record when Bush's is the one that is pathetic and shameful.
Bush didn't attack Kerry's record, it was those who supported him who did just like it is those who support Kerry who have attacked the Dub's record.

 

marcello

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I'm pretty sure Bush and Kerry both support all the attacks on each other. They won't publicly state or admit that, but they do in all likelihood.
 

PatboyX

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media matters for america tends to keep tabs on "media lies" but...if you are interested in un-biased proof...there will be no such thing at this point.
things are too heated.
 

thuper

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Originally posted by: Beattie

Proof?

What? you want proof of something you can Google in ten seconds?

http://www.projectcensored.org...lications/2005/11.html

In February 2003, a Florida Court of Appeals unanimously agreed with an assertion by FOX News that there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news in the United States.

http://www.docback.org/talk_interview.html
http://www.meaningoflife.i12.com/milk.htm
http://www.chemtrailpatrol.com/cpr_propaganda_menu.htm
http://www.geocities.com/g_caras/news052401.html
http://www.foxbghsuit.com/anatomy_of_a_smear.htm
 

Rob9874

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Originally posted by: Riprorin

O'Reilly's an admitted conservative? I don't think so.

In the simplistic terms of conservative vs. liberal, he leans towards the right. "Admitted" may have been presumptuous.
 

thuper

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Originally posted by: Riprorin

O'Reilly's an admitted conservative? I don't think so.

He went beyond that and admitted to being a republican in his P. Diddy "interview" on Sep. 2.

O'REILLY: All right. You should be a Republican. You know why?

P DIDDY: No. Why should I be a Republican?

O'REILLY: Because you're self-made. Did anybody ever give you anything?

P DIDDY: I mean, what I should do is inspire young people to --

O'REILLY: But did anybody ever give you anything? The government ever give you anything?

P DIDDY: No, I can't really say anybody ever gave me anything.

O'REILLY: All right, so you made it on your own, right?

P DIDDY: Yes, I did.

O'REILLY: All right, so you made it on your own, right?

P DIDDY: Yes, I did.

O'REILLY: You're like me.

Its one of those IF A=B and B=C, then A=C things.
 

ciba

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Thuper, do you care to actually comply with the request? Sure, you showed proof as to the appeal, but not your original quote.

The Fox ruling was a legal argument. You are confusing a question of law versus a question of fact. The ruling was simply that distorting or falsifying news is not illegal. There was no ruling of fact as to whether or not Fox did. It was a nonissue as the only basis for the case was the legal argument.
 

thuper

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Originally posted by: ciba
Thuper, do you care to actually comply with the request? Sure, you showed proof as to the appeal, but not your original quote.

The Fox ruling was a legal argument. You are confusing a question of law versus a question of fact. The ruling was simply that distorting or falsifying news is not illegal. There was no ruling of fact as to whether or not Fox did. It was a nonissue as the only basis for the case was the legal argument.

The OP asked about their inaccuracies. I was just saying that they did FALSIFY a news report. When employees brought a suit agianst them for it, they admitted to doing it but argued that is wasn't illegal.

What is your point here?
 

ntdz

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Rob9874
Originally posted by: Beattie
Does anyone here have any actual proof of things that were reported on Fox News that werent true.

People always complain about how slanted it is for the conservatives, and they do run stuff that's pro-conservative and just ignore the bad that they do. But it doesnt seem to me that they actually have ever reported on things that werent true to bolster their side. Does anyone have any linkage or information to the contrary?

I don't even think it's that slanted for the conservatives. You have Hannity and O'Reilly, who are admitted conservatives. But I think the network as a whole has decided not to put the obligatory left spin on everything, so in contrast to news like CBS, it appears to be more conservative, because they actually listen to the other side, and don't automatically bash the Republican candidates. I think the public has gotten so used to the news doing that, and they're suspicious of a news network that doesn't. Fox News is 1 new source out of hundreds that decides not to be blatantly liberal, and the libs cannot stand it!

O'Reilly's an admitted conservative? I don't think so.

He has admitted to being conservative on his TV show but stll considers himself independent, neither Republican or Democrat.
 

Darthvoy

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The question is not that they have mistated something, but the perspective they give-off, which in this case is the consevative viewpoint. Journalism is not supposed be leaning more towards any side. They are supposed to be "balanced".
 

T2T III

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Beattie
Fox News inaccuracies

Fox is not a "News" source. It is orchestrated Neocon Brainwashing the sheep at it's best.

The OP is a prime example. Doesn't even realize that the brainwashing has occured.

Dave, We're waiting for proof from you that Fox news is actually involved with brainwashing. Do you have any links to back this up? Or, are you just speaking from other orifices?

 
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