FromSoftware's Armored Core 6

[Racan]

I've never owned a console in my life so I've never played any game in the AC series which unfortunately have never been ported to PC before this game. Anyone here familiar with Armored Core?

 

[gorobei]

i only played the ps1 AC demo on a friends ps and the dreamcast equivalent FrameGride. but it is a Fromsoft franchise, so think the literal Deadsouls of mecha games.

you customize your mech with legs, torso, arms, arm weapons, shoulder weapons. mix and match with the leg types giving significant different movement, arm parts into melee build, etc.

there are some videos on YT that go thru the entire history and changes. one of them reviewed the preview footage from a few months ago and what it meant in terms of changes to the gameplay over the years. there are a bunch of new special abilities(attacks) that have an Eldenring influence.

 

[DigDog]

yes, i am.
sorts.

AC 1 from the pixel era was an awesome game, on ps1.
AC2 on ps2 was blingier and far far worse as a game.
a ton of other titles were NOT released outside of japan.
by the time AC4 - the twelfth in the series : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armored_Core - i was too old to be a console gamer. And also mad at From for not releasing the games worldwide.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Dunno, never been a big fan of Japanese mecha. Always liked the Battle tech universe more and approached mecha from the MechWarrior side of things.

Will keep an eye on this, but my understanding of AC are that they are solidly in the action/timing based genre, not the sim genre.

 

[Oyeve]

Looks like a Shogo Mobile Armor Division type game.

 

[gorobei]

found the video. 84 minutes so either watch at 2x or scrub thru. they give you the premise/lore at 8min bookmark.

i cant find the video where someone pretty knowledgeable about soulsbourne and AC went thru all the details visible in the preview trailer, but im sure it s around somewhere.

i mostly know it from the mecha designer Shoji Kawamori, who directed and designed for macross aquarion eureka7 and a ton of other series.

 

[DigDog]

i will expand;

AC1 is an absolutely brilliant - if visually horrid - game, because it has all the components that *i* want in a game.
1. it doesnt hold your hand
2. it doesnt tell you anything you shouldn't know
3. it's happy to let you fail .. spectacularly. Caught in a dungeon and out of ammo? TOUGH !

You get this mech that's made of components you can buy, own and swap, and you can make very different mechs; mechs that rip with 6 machineguns but cost more in ammo than you get paid. Weaksauce mechs that only use energy weapons with no ammo costs. Ludicrous battleground-wiping mechs that come with SIX missile shots. Mechs that can fly. Mechs that can barely jump. Mechs with 9999 armor and the maneuverability of a slug.

And AC1 is happy to let you grossly miscalculate your loadout and fail the mission from the START sign.

it also has VERY large maps, and exploration will lead to rewards and easter eggs.


AC2 had *zero* of this. It had very nice looking mech models, but none of that f* you attitude in the game design. Tiny maps, average maps, and a fear of letting the player fail the tiniest bit of content.


..so.
i bought AC2 hoping to get more of that AC1 goodness, and i was very disappointed. I cant fathom what happened, idk 15 games later, but, be warned, the series got dumbed down very early on.

 

[gorobei]

that other video came up from the algorithm, this is the one that covers the difference in gameplay and the hints from the trailer. he includes quotes from the devs on what they are trying to do.

the bosses are seemingly all about figuring out the patterns like souls/elden. the role of melee seems to get more focus.

the seeming open world aspect is what has my attention. framegride was just arena map duels going up a ladder which was the same as my main game: virtual on. VO marz had openish world but i didnt get to play much of it. AC6 seems like a very polished product with a decent break from the earlier games to make onboarding easier.

 

[igor_kavinski]

AC1 is an absolutely brilliant - if visually horrid - game

Any experience with Konami's Zone of Enders games? They are similar to AC, right? At least from the videos I looked at, it seems so.

 

[DigDog]

Any experience with Konami's Zone of Enders games? They are similar to AC, right? At least from the videos I looked at, it seems so.

no, never played it, but the magazines of those pre-internet years did occasionally mention AC and referred to ZOE as more arcadey.

 

[Stg-Flame]

This game has been out for a few days. Has anyone tried it yet?

It has a lot of positive reviews on Steam and a ton of people are giving it praise, but as with any FromSoft game, it has its share of haters as well calling it Armored Souls and others saying you can beat it in a single sitting.

 

[igor_kavinski]

others saying you can beat it in a single sitting.

Maybe using the easiest setting or figuring out some trick. I don't mind games I can easily finish. I appreciate the experience more than gameplay hours. Too many great games out there to get sucked into any one of them for hundred hours or more. The last two games I played straight for a few days were Detroit: Become Human and Uncharted 4.

 

[Oyeve]

Maybe using the easiest setting or figuring out some trick. I don't mind games I can easily finish. I appreciate the experience more than gameplay hours. Too many great games out there to get sucked into any one of them for hundred hours or more. The last two games I played straight for a few days were Detroit: Become Human and Uncharted 4.

There are no easy settings. I am loving the games though. Coming off of over 2000 hours of elden ring I am ready for this game. Done a few missions and am modding my mech.