FX55 or Opteron 165

[tornadog]

Whats best for gaming right now??? I dont do multitaking and I generally turn off most processes when gaming...Also which is a better overclocker?

 

[espress0]

The fx 55, and it's cheaper. Are you planning on ocing? The x2 4400 is the same price as the operton 165 and you can hit 2.6 ghz stable. I am a gamer myself, igot 195.3 fps in the counter strike stress test. I play fear combat alot on line, My K ratio last night on one sever was 75 and 20. But 2.6 is what the 55 runs at stock and you could oc that higher and get better frame rate. And its about 70 bucks cheaper.

 

[secretanchitman]

i'd say the FX-55, cause its unlocked both upwards and downwards for multipliers...

both would be excellent for gaming, so i doubt you'd see a difference (one has an extra core, and the other one has unlocked multipliers).

 

[Yellowbeard]

Some of this will depend on how long you plan to keep it too. More and more games are going to be multi threaded so a dual core is more future proof. Also, I think the newer Nvidia drivers are taking advantage of the 2nd core.

 

[lopri]

My brain tells me to go with the Opteron 165 and my heart says FX-55 is the way to go.

 

[myocardia]

Get the 165 or the 170; if you don't, you really won't notice any difference at all, since you're already running @ 2.4 Ghz. Also, unless you're planning on upgrading your video card, you aren't going to be seeing any difference, while gaming.

 

[tornadog]

I am upgrading my video card to a 7900 GTO. Also what advantages will I find witht he opteron over the fx55 which is already at 2.6 Ghz?

 

[tornadog]

still cant make my mind. I want to go for the opteron but getting a good overclocker is not guaranteed with new ones. With AMD FX55 I know they can be overclocked but they are a dying breed...help!!!!

 

[cmdrdredd]

Opteron...dual core > single core

even a supposed "dud" overclocking Opteron 165 will do 2.6Ghz.

 

[tallman45]

Originally posted by: tornadog
still cant make my mind. I want to go for the opteron but getting a good overclocker is not guaranteed with new ones. With AMD FX55 I know they can be overclocked but they are a dying breed...help!!!!

Think of it this way, day one you plug in that new CPU and power it up fro the 1st time here is what you start with

FX-55 = 1 x 2.6ghz (2.6ghz of total available processing power)
165 = 2 X 1.8ghz (3.6 ghz of total available processing power)

FX-55 = 1 mb of L2 Cache (available)
165 = 2mb of L2 Cache (available)

Right off the bat you are future proof with the 165 even if you do not oC.

Look at it another way, 2 -3 months from now games and apps start getting released that take more advantage of dual core, that is a certaintly, you will be covered

 

[URLORD]

Well if your not going to am2 socket, the 165 is the definite winner, its only 20$ more over the fx55 at newegg, if your into serious overclocking the 165 is the way to go. Yes it can only overclock up to par on the fx55 or 100mhz more but it is a dual core, has 2mb of cache as opposed to single core and 1mb of cache. All future apps and games will be coded for dual core so as the previous poster stated"future proofing" somewhat any way.
Better yet, why don't you buy yourself an e6300(1800mhz) for 181$ at newegg, a foxxconn 965 chipset board(100$) and overclock it to 2900mhz? the core duo are a more efficient CPU, you would have to do some serious cooling but hey, its all part of the adventure of oerclocking

 

[tornadog]

but then I have to get ddr2 and better cooling which will double what I am looking to spend right now

 

[Roguestar]

Surely you can get an opteron 165 on socket 939 and keep your DDR?

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Originally posted by: tallman45
FX-55 = 1 x 2.6ghz (2.6ghz of total available processing power)
165 = 2 X 1.8ghz (3.6 ghz of total available processing power)

FX-55 = 1 mb of L2 Cache (available)
165 = 2mb of L2 Cache (available)

It doesn't work quite like that, but I agree with your conclusion so I'll let it slip

- JaAG

 

[tornadog]

Originally posted by: Roguestar
Surely you can get an opteron 165 on socket 939 and keep your DDR?

Yes, I was replying to the suggestion to get core 2 duo


I think I am gonna order the opty and have my fingers crossed as to the stepping.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: tornadog

Originally posted by: Roguestar
Surely you can get an opteron 165 on socket 939 and keep your DDR?

Yes, I was replying to the suggestion to get core 2 duo


I think I am gonna order the opty and have my fingers crossed as to the stepping.

That's a good choice...the dual core CPU will definately do more for you than a single core would. Now, and in the future. Like I said, even Opteron 165s that people say are not good overclockers will do 2.6Ghz.

 

[tallman45]

Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy

Originally posted by: tallman45
FX-55 = 1 x 2.6ghz (2.6ghz of total available processing power)
165 = 2 X 1.8ghz (3.6 ghz of total available processing power)

FX-55 = 1 mb of L2 Cache (available)
165 = 2mb of L2 Cache (available)

It doesn't work quite like that, but I agree with your conclusion so I'll let it slip

- JaAG

Maybe I worded it poorly, but it was a meant to be a simplistic comparison

Lets say you are running 2 apps at the same time on each processor

On the FX-55 you only have available for those 2 activae apps 2.6ghz and 1mb cache of which the Apps must share that resource

On the 165 Each App has the potential to use 1.8ghz and 1mb cache independant of each other

 

[tjmudder]

Yeah but what about gaming where most games only take advantage of 1 core? I doubt the opteron will perform as good as the FX-55 will.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: tjmudder
Yeah but what about gaming where most games only take advantage of 1 core? I doubt the opteron will perform as good as the FX-55 will.

Yes it will...you aren't using a xbox you are using a PC. You do more on a PC than games, and you want to ALWAYS build a system with as much future proofing as you can.

 

[tallman45]

Originally posted by: tjmudder
Yeah but what about gaming where most games only take advantage of 1 core? I doubt the opteron will perform as good as the FX-55 will.

Sure, but do you think Gaming programmers are not working right now on writing changes to take advantage of dual processors. The race is on, that 1st game to come out that can actually take advantage of any multi core processor is going to sell out in minutes with so many Dual core system being out in the real world right now. Then what is an FX-55 owner going to do, buy that game, they do not have a proc that can take advantage of the very thing that makes it so great !! Think Ahead

Even so, there are things that run in the background that will shift over to the second core wile you are gaming, so in effect you are taking advantage of the second core.

As has been mentioned even a bad 165 can OC to 2.6ghz which is the same as a FX-55. Why would anyone choose a single core when every new CPU AMD and Intel is beng made with "at least" Dual cores.

 

[classy]

165

 

[hectorsm]

Originally posted by: tjmudder
Yeah but what about gaming where most games only take advantage of 1 core? I doubt the opteron will perform as good as the FX-55 will.

Today's video drivers use dual core to a limited degree. You will still get a small boost from dual core in games.

 

[URLORD]

Originally posted by: tornadog
but then I have to get ddr2 and better cooling which will double what I am looking to spend right now

Well, what are you willing to spend? that will help determine whats good for you