Gaming Laptop under $1500

btadler

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Hello,

I am looking for as good as I can get gaming laptop for under $1500. Basically I want it to be able to play everything on the market at decent quality and FPS. I dont expect to get something for this price that can blow crysis out of the water but would like to be able to play it at decent FPS at a lower quality. I also play MMO's such as WoW and Aeon and I know for sure WoW needs crazy CPU power for large raids. I prefer to run on larger laptops 17" but since I will be starting college back up may be interested in a 15" if it can do the same things. So if you guys have any suggestions for a good Laptop that will meet those qualifications I would appreciate it. So far I have been looking at ASUS, Lenova and MSI laptops but would like to know your opinions.

Thanks
 

btadler

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In my experience Alienware is over priced for what you actually receive in performance. If this has changed since they got bought out by Dell let me know but no offense I probably won't consider them based on my past experience with price to quality.
 

Finns14

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As a college student myself you would be surprised how little you end up moving your laptop around I learned this after buying one frosh year. My advice is go for a desktop, you can either get simlar performance for a better price or far better performance for only slightly more. IF you have that much money to spend I would say get a desktop and if you really need something portable get a netbook. The laptops you are looking at are gunna feel like a ton of bricks and the last thing you will wnat to do is to lug it around.
 

RavenSEAL

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I actually didn't notice until now how lowly clocked those are (1.6ghz/1.78ghz)

I would go with the fujitsu, can't say much about their laptop quality but their pro tablets are top notch. good GPU and a very good CPU. Otherwise, stick with the alienware.
 

Zap

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As a college student myself you would be surprised how little you end up moving your laptop around I learned this after buying one frosh year. My advice is go for a desktop, you can either get simlar performance for a better price or far better performance for only slightly more. IF you have that much money to spend I would say get a desktop and if you really need something portable get a netbook. The laptops you are looking at are gunna feel like a ton of bricks and the last thing you will wnat to do is to lug it around.

This.

At first a heavy notebook won't be much. After time, and especially if you end up going all over campus, you'll start to hate carrying it. The other thing is that you'll be lugging around something pretty expensive. Forgetting your backpack somewhere or accidentally knocking it off a table can become very expensive.

You can enjoy a full-sized keyboard/mouse/monitor at your desk hooked up to an SFF gaming rig. Carry around either a $250 netbook or (for more oomph) a cheap $400-500 CULV based small notebook. Not only are these a lot smaller/lighter than the gaming notebooks, the gaming notebooks have HUGE and HEAVY power bricks that they absolutely need. Some netbooks are hitting 10 hours of battery life, so you won't even need to carry around the AC adapter. I'll go take a pic of my power bricks so you can see size differences.

For a small desktop, you can easily do a mini ITX gaming rig like this:
socket 1156 CPU of choice $90-whatever
socket 1156 ITX board $60-150
4GB RAM $90
Windows $100
decent PSU $70-whatever
optical drive $25
primary storage (HDD/SSD/whatever) $40-whatever
Lian Li PC-Q11 case $120 (other options available at various prices)
GTX 460 video card $150-240 (768MB-1GB)
monitor $150-whatever

So, for under $1000 you can have a desktop computer that will run circles around gaming notebooks twice the price.

Then, spring $250 for a netbook to carry around (or $400 for one of the premium Asus 1005 models with 10+ hours battery).

EDIT: Here's a pic of adapters I have around the house. Weights come from my postal scale, so are fairly accurate. Weights do NOT include cabling. The bigger adapters come with beefier cables, so weight and bulk will be even more.

Starting from the left, AC adapters for a...
MSI Atom netbook 45W 5oz
Hannspree SU4100 CULV 45W 12.1" notebook 5oz
Dell standard 65W (Latitude 13 SU7300 CULV, retardedly huge adapter) 16oz
Clevo (C2D, single 9800M GTS GPU) gaming notebook 120W 23oz
Clevo (C2Q, dual GTX 280M GPUs) gaming notebook 220W 32oz



The netbook has 5 hour battery life (older model). The next two CULV notebooks have 5 and 4 hours of battery life respectively. All three can probably be carried around without their bricks unless you have a number of classes all day. The gaming notebooks can NOT be carried around without the brick because they may or may not last a single class on battery.

A cheap "new" model $250 netbook usually has 6-8 hour battery life, and some of the more expensive Asus netbooks (1001P, 1005HE) can have 10-12 hours in a 3 pound package. For CULV notebooks, the Timeline/Timeline-X and Asus U/UL series (mostly starting at $600) are 8 hours or more, with really decent performance and starting under 4 pounds.
 
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btadler

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Ok so I get the point about the weight but I am a part time student who works full time and goes to class at night 2 nights a week. I won't be carrying this laptop around on my back all day like a full time student so I am willing to carry 10 pounds ish with the comp and adapter. Of course if any of you guys know of a good laptop that will blow WoW 25 man raids out of the water at a good enough fps that I can actually play it plus be lighter than 8 pounds I would appreciate it. I know I said I want to be able to play everything but I am starting to think that maybe I will build a desktop and have my laptop for when I travel in which case I would like to be able to still raid. SO.... Any ideas about a laptop with enough oomph to get me through WoW at better than 10 fps in full combat but not cost a lot and weigh a little less than what I was originally looking at?
 

ed21x

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getting a 15"+ laptop is pretty much like getting a new desktop. I suggest maybe reducing the size to 14" thin and light, which can still get you a very capable videocard/computer at a more practical size/weight that you can travel around with. Speaking of which, just get the HP Envy14 and be done with it. A i7-720qm + radeon 5650 is more than capable of pulling off a 25 man WoW raid, as well as any other game on the market currently.
 
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RobsTV

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All great suggestions here.

Desktop is cheapest and most powerful.
But... Laptop is more convenient and perhaps way more powerful than needs require. Plus, everyday use from your recliner sure is a lot nicer than sitting at a computer desk.

Here, even with a Gaming/HTPC within 11 feet of me, and at least 3 more gaming rigs 20 feet from me all the time, (we have frequent LAN parties), I still prefer using a laptop for the 6 to 12+ hours a day that I am on a PC. For the past 7 years was using a 17" laptop, but just sold it and am now am using a 13" gaming laptop for all the time use. The 13" is better suited for portability, and I can easily take it with me when traveling on motorcycle instead of the netbook I was using. The 13.3" replaces both the 17" laptop and the 8.9" netbook. If I had the space, a light 14" would be about perfect.

Size can be misleading. I can game on my 50" plasma gaming/HTPC or on my 13". Which one is bigger? The 13". Since the 13" is around 2-3ft away, and the 50" is 11 ft away, the actual viewing size of the 13" is around 10% larger.

Of course you can always connect a laptop to external monitor, gaming keyboard and mouse, and make it think it's a desktop..

Another thing to consider if you are at all "green" is the laptop will be much more efficient than a desktop.
 
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RobsTV

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(snip)...... For CULV notebooks, the Timeline/Timeline-X and Asus U/UL series (mostly starting at $600) are 8 hours or more, with really decent performance and starting under 4 pounds.

The TimelineX moved away from the CULV CPU's to the much more powerful Core i "M" versions, while still getting 8 hours in a light and ultraportable gaming laptop with 6 cell battery, (12 hours with 9 cell). You won't get 8 "gaming" hours, but switchable graphics allows you the option to flip between ultra lower power consumption for everyday tasks, and decent gaming machine in seconds.
 

Zap

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I wasn't aware that the Timeline-X had switchable graphics. Link?
 

RobsTV

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I wasn't aware that the Timeline-X had switchable graphics. Link?

14"
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Acer-Aspire-4820TG-Timeline-X-Notebook.30281.0.html

13" (actually seems to perform better than the 14" due to separate CPU/GPU cooling)
http://forum.notebookreview.com/ace...nge-info-benchmarks-tweaks-mods-upgrades.html

Some slight limitations.
You can set Bios to switchable Intel/ATi or Discrete ATi only, not Intel only.

When set to switchable, you can configure windows to have it switch to Intel anytime you unplug unit, then back to ATi anytime it's plugged in, all done automatically. You can also override at any time by right click desktop and chose ATi or Intel, and done. No reboot ever needed. Some open apps might prevent on the fly switching until you exit app.
 
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Zap

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Holy smokes! I guess I've heard about them referred to as their model number (4820TG or whatever) but I didn't know people were talking about a Timeline-X with (presumably) great battery life.

Hmmm are these the ones not yet available in the USA? I've now seen instructions on how to buy them from an Asian site, and how to buy them from a German site.
 

RobsTV

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The 3820TG that sometimes shows up in Canada has the slower ATi 5470(?), while the imports have the ATi 5650 (so far).

The 4820TG with the ATi 5650 does go in and out of stock at Newegg and Amazon.
They sell out fast. New models keep showing up with slightly faster CPU's than previous model offered.

I ordered my 3820TG from PCHome in Taiwan, and it was painless with quadruple boxed laptop arriving in less than a week. Use Google to translate and PayPal for payment with money conversions. Mine came to $920 delivered. They also carry all the 4820TG models.Acer USA confirms full warranty when purchased from authorized reseller PCHome.
 
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Zap

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*SIGH*

If I didn't already have around eight notebooks in a household for two...
 

Zap

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No, that's what got me in this predicament. I need to do the inverse. Sell two, buy one.
 

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OK so I went to PCHome and translated it and found the computer I want to get the Acer Aspire Ethos 5943G. BUT now I can't figure out how to actually order it. I clicked on what seemed to be the check out button (which is not translated) but it didn't do anything for me. Can some one who has experience with this site give me some advise. Here is the link to the page, Please help me!!!! http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.pchome.com.tw/
 

RobsTV

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PCHome has 2 sales sites.
You need to use the PCHome world site.

Try this link:
http://world.pchome.com.tw/?mod=store&func=style_show&SR_NO=DHAE1R&tm=u

They are 12 hours from US eastern time zone.
They have nightly sales, which is the best time to find deals.
So look around 9am to 7pm Eastern time zone to find deals during there nightly sales. You will see many items with the nightly sale icon during that time.

I have google toolbar installed, and it automatically translates the webpage. Google Chrome does as well, but I didn't want anther browser.

Clicking the Orange button adds item to cart, which then shows flashing cart thing floating in lower right corner of screen. Click on floating cart to proceed to secure checkout. Next, choose ship to country from drop down menu choices. Click Yellow button after total with shipping appears. Next screen you create an account. That's as far as I can go right now since I don't want to create a new account.
 
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Skott

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I'm curious how you do the price/cost conversion. Is that in Yen or something else?

Edit: Also XoticPC has some decent gaming notebooks for sale under $1500 the OP may want to look at:

Sager NP8690 15.6" (1920x1080)
i5 450M 2.4GHz-2.67GHz
GTX460M 1536MB
4GB RAM
DL DVD Drive
320GB 7200rpm HD
7-in-1 Card Reader
3yr warranty

All for $1209 and add another $90 for W7. If that doesnt play WoW and modern games decently I dont know what will. Also thats just the base config. You can add better to it. For example a i5 540 is an extra $115(2.53GHz-3.06GHz). Also they have the ASUS G53JW-A1 and the MSI GX660 in that class/price category.
 
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RobsTV

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I'm curious how you do the price/cost conversion. Is that in Yen or something else?

Edit: Also XoticPC has some decent gaming notebooks for sale under $1500 the OP may want to look at:

Sager NP8690 15.6" (1920x1080)
......
GTX460M 1536MB
.....(snip)
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At PCHome, next to the price is a conversion icon that you click on to see the price in your country.

For example, a 5943G that might have been mentioned a couple posts up shows priced at US$1561.87, equiped with quad-core i7-740QM, ATi HD 5850, 640g, 4g, BT, Win764, etc.

That Sager looks impressive, but with a GPU around 75w, changes the game quite a bit. It will require more cooling, will be heavier, should be louder and will reduce usability on battery, or the opposite of the things many look for in a laptop. If all that is fine, then at that point, a 17" or larger starts to make sense. Larger allows for larger fans and better, quieter cooling.

Even that above example with ATi 5850 is pushing things a bit for a portable laptop with around 40w for the GPU.

Dropping lower than 40 watts and the next range is around 15w in the HD 5650, which does allow light weight and long battery life. Maybe too light and long for most needs? So a little heavier and faster makes sense for many.
 
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