Gaming LCD

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

I am just curious about the things that make up THEE best gaming monitor. For me, I have no preference; 19" 22" 24"

I currently have a Viewsonic VX922 ; what if anything is better than what I have?



Thanks

 

[Steve325]

most people claim that 2-3ms refresh rates make the best gaming monitors, but I honestly disagree. I think my MVA panel is rated at 8-9ms and I don't notice any type of lag. I'd rather have better colors, viewing angles, and image quality than a couple milliseconds

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Whats an MVA panel?

 

[MTDEW]

Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
Whats an MVA panel?

LCD Panel Technology Explained
http://www.pchardwarehelp.com/...es/lcd-panel-types.php

In short MVA is a better panel than a TN. :thumbsup:

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

What is: Active Matrix, TFT LCD for a panel then? is it a POS?

 

[darXoul]

If I was to name THE best gaming monitor out there, I would say:

Dell 3007WFP-HC

Why?

1. Wide gamut, great colors, decent blacks.
2. No smearing, ghosting, absolutely fast enough for any game.
3. No noticeable input lag.
4. Perfect viewing angles, once IPS, always IPS, as I say.

Just two things to remember: 2560*1600 means tiny pixels and fonts, plus you gotta have a great GPU solution (SLI/CF pretty much required) if you want to enjoy games in native res and with eye candy on.

If you want a grea 1920*1200 monitor, I wholeheartedly recommend my 2690WUXi or its newer counterpart, the WUXi2.

 

[alcoholbob]

TFT is an overused meaningless term but as far as the actual origin, TFT is the original LCD panel type, which could probably summed as "pre-IPS".

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

So how is mine in comparison???

Viewing Angle 170°(H) / 170°(V) and all that other stuff in the description link

 

[mmnno]

What games do you play? If your answer is Quake 3, you'll want a different monitor than someone who says Civilization 4.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

UT3

 

[dflynchimp]

Input lag as defined by LCD specs/labels is a marketing tool. LCD's refresh at 60Hz, which means every frame lasts 16.33 milliseconds, so anything with real-world GTG lag of less than that would not be overtly noticeble (it's possible for gamers with fast reactions to notice a little lag, but most of us wouldn't notice it)

The problem is the input lag producers slap onto their monitors are often decieving. Anandtech's 24" LCD roundup actually found some (mostly S-PVI) panels to have as much as 30ms worth of lag. That's nearly two frames worth of lag, which pretty much anyone should be able to pick up. Bottom line is if you're into fast paced gaming you want a TN panel. I got the Samsung 2493HM after reading the aforementioned roundup because it had good pre-calibration color accuracy (for a TN panel) as well as good response time. There are alot of other good 24" displays if you shop around for reviews.

 

[mmnno]

You might try one of the two 120Hz monitors: The Samsung 2233rz and the Viewsonic VX2265WM.

 

[dflynchimp]

120Hz is unnecessary (unless you're using Nvidia's 3-D gizmo) because 60Hz is more than enough to fool the human eye into seeing fluid motion sans stereoscopic glasses.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Originally posted by: dflynchimp
Input lag as defined by LCD specs/labels is a marketing tool. LCD's refresh at 60Hz, which means every frame lasts 16.33 milliseconds, so anything with real-world GTG lag of less than that would not be overtly noticeble (it's possible for gamers with fast reactions to notice a little lag, but most of us wouldn't notice it)

The problem is the input lag producers slap onto their monitors are often decieving. Anandtech's 24" LCD roundup actually found some (mostly S-PVI) panels to have as much as 30ms worth of lag. That's nearly two frames worth of lag, which pretty much anyone should be able to pick up. Bottom line is if you're into fast paced gaming you want a TN panel. I got the Samsung 2493HM after reading the aforementioned roundup because it had good pre-calibration color accuracy (for a TN panel) as well as good response time. There are alot of other good 24" displays if you shop around for reviews.

In your opinion, what would be a good TN LCD? Mine?

 

[idiotekniQues]

Originally posted by: Steve325
most people claim that 2-3ms refresh rates make the best gaming monitors, but I honestly disagree. I think my MVA panel is rated at 8-9ms and I don't notice any type of lag. I'd rather have better colors, viewing angles, and image quality than a couple milliseconds

agreed. i have a doublesight 24" pva panel and i am a good fps gamer. there is no lag with this monitor. id rather have all the benefits that you mentioned for my photo work along with good gaming over a couple of useless milliseconds and non-existant ghosting

 

[dflynchimp]

Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN

Originally posted by: dflynchimp
Input lag as defined by LCD specs/labels is a marketing tool. LCD's refresh at 60Hz, which means every frame lasts 16.33 milliseconds, so anything with real-world GTG lag of less than that would not be overtly noticeble (it's possible for gamers with fast reactions to notice a little lag, but most of us wouldn't notice it)

The problem is the input lag producers slap onto their monitors are often decieving. Anandtech's 24" LCD roundup actually found some (mostly S-PVI) panels to have as much as 30ms worth of lag. That's nearly two frames worth of lag, which pretty much anyone should be able to pick up. Bottom line is if you're into fast paced gaming you want a TN panel. I got the Samsung 2493HM after reading the aforementioned roundup because it had good pre-calibration color accuracy (for a TN panel) as well as good response time. There are alot of other good 24" displays if you shop around for reviews.

In your opinion, what would be a good TN LCD? Mine?

believe it or not, I actually upgraded to the 2493HM from the exact same Viewsonic monitor that you have.

Both have very low input lag, so it comes down to whether you want the extra screen real estate. I had no problem gaming on the 19", although 24" was a marked improvement.

Whatever doesn't break the bank for you I say. I found the 2493HM for $250 on ebay, and I could hardly tell that it's been used at all. It's actually one of the more expensive TN panels if you buy brand new $350-$400. E-bay is a good place to find deal's as long as you buy from sellers with good ratings. Just remember to ask if there are dead pixels or cosmetic damage.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Thanks for the input

 

[mmnno]

Originally posted by: dflynchimp
120Hz is unnecessary (unless you're using Nvidia's 3-D gizmo) because 60Hz is more than enough to fool the human eye into seeing fluid motion sans stereoscopic glasses.

I meant that specifically because he named UT3 as his most important game. The increased reactivity of the 120Hz panels makes them the best FPS displays around, and decreasing the time between each frame by 8ms is another advantage over 60Hz lcds. If ghosting/input lag means you're getting a TN anyway, you may as well get the best TN around.

 

[AzN]

Your monitor is a TN panel. The X series from viewsonic are actually very good.

I have Asus VH226 and a viewsonic vx1962wm. Both TN panels. Side by side Viewsonic looks better. It has whiter whites and color seems correct.