Info Gaming Showdown 9950X3D vs. 285K

[igor_kavinski]

 

[igor_kavinski]

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[Markfw]

Well, the 9950x3d wins the recommendation and I agree.

 

[igor_kavinski]

It seems unfair that the RAM kits are not the same. 6400C28 1:1 would perform better than 8000C36 1:2 for the Ryzen and 285K has the advantage of denser chips too. Almost feels like the reviewer tried to hold back the 9950X3D a bit to avoid embarrassing the 285K.

 

[DriedMangos]

Isn't Zen 5 actually slower in 1:2 mode in gaming until you get above 8600 MT/s RAM speeds or so? It would have been way faster if he just did 1:1 mode with 6400 or even 6200.

 

[adroc_thurston]

Isn't Zen 5 actually slower in 1:2 mode in gaming until you get above 8600 MT/s RAM speeds or so? It would have been way faster if he just did 1:1 mode with 6400 or even 6200.

Yeah this is a cope attempt at making ARL-S less donkey dung.

 

[Mopetar]

Is anyone really surprised at the outcome?

 

[Fjodor2001]

No, we all know 9950X3D is a game/toy CPU.

 

[Markfw]

No, we all know 9950X3D is a game/toy CPU.

Its also way more productive, especially in avx-512 apps, which is hardly tested. But this confirms there is no other choice to a smart buyer.

 

[Fjodor2001]

If they wanted to include some tests that would tilt a bit towards Intel’s favour, I guess they could have included tests for e.g. Idle power consumption, iGPU performance, and MT perf/watt when not running at max TDP (but instead at around 100W TDP).

 

[igor_kavinski]

iGPU performance

While the iGPU performance is much better, it hates overclocking so you either get strong iGPU with stock not that great CPU performance or acceptable overclocked CPU performance with graphical glitches. Multiple people on overclock.net had this problem with their otherwise fine samples and had to switch to dGPU.

 

[DriedMangos]

If they wanted to include some tests that would tilt a bit towards Intel’s favour, I guess they could have included tests for e.g. Idle power consumption, iGPU performance, and MT perf/watt when not running at max TDP (but instead at around 100W TDP).

The problem is this is a tuned 285K, which gets way worse power consumption because all the factors that get tuned cause more power loss via DVLR. This is funny because Raptor Lake actually gets more power efficient when tuning (since RPL tuning mostly involves undervolting and load line tweaking), so once Arrow Lake gets pushed its both less performant and less power efficient compared to RPL, and comparatively, even worse against Zen 5.

 

[Fjodor2001]

While the iGPU performance is much better, it hates overclocking so you either get strong iGPU with stock not that great CPU performance or acceptable overclocked CPU performance with graphical glitches. Multiple people on overclock.net had this problem with their otherwise fine samples and had to switch to dGPU.

I don’t think it’s very common to overclock the iGPU (or CPU) among those that use it. So I think the stock performance is what matters to most of them.

 

[Makaveli]

Zero mention of cooling cost.

And memory configuration for both systems are wack paying alot more for minimal gains there.

 

[poke01]

Yeah this is a cope attempt at making ARL-S less donkey dung.

even donkey dung has its uses, ARL-S less so

 

[adroc_thurston]

even donkey dung has its uses, ARL-S less so

It's good non-vector nT on a budget.
Useful, but 13600k already was good nT on a budget.

 

[Thunder 57]

Tom's did an article on the same topic today (expect they used a 9800X3D to give Intel some wins). It was a total shill piece as they said it was a "Faceoff of the Gaming Flagships" but inluded productivity to give Intel a win. They also said they used the 9800X3D ($480) because it was closest in price to the 285k ($590).

I replied about how wrong they were showing the 9950X3D as $650 which is closer in price than the 9800X3D, but more importantly that it is currently on sale for $520. I didn't call them shills otherwise that post would disappear into thin air but said it must've been written some time ago or by someone who didn't do their research.

EDIT:

I was mistaken. I searched for 9950X3D and accidently clicked on 9950X. If only Amazon had Newegg like searchability.

 

[igor_kavinski]

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So loserbenchguy thinks that the only reason Intel is in jeopardy is because of AMD marketers

We are all getting paid by AMD, aren't we guys?

 

[Thunder 57]

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So loserbenchguy thinks that the only reason Intel is in jeopardy is because of AMD marketers

We are all getting paid by AMD, aren't we guys?

Still waiting to get my check in the mail . Also, those 2017-2020 "faster" numbers must be what, 1T? Because if they included nT Intel would lose every time. I also noticed Zen 3 is suspiciously absent.

No, Intel risks bankruptcy because of their lack to adapt to the market and failure after failure at nodes.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I also noticed Zen 3 is suspiciously absent.

It's there.



After 2021, I guess he is too embarrassed to report the situation

 

[Thunder 57]

It's there.

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After 2021, I guess he is too embarrassed to report the situation

It wasn't in you post and I hardly found it worthwhile to go and look for it myself. I mean their whole idea is when Intel gets beat, use a made up metric called EFps!

 

[dlerious]

I replied about how wrong they were showing the 9950X3D as $650 which is closer in price than the 9800X3D, but more importantly that it is currently on sale for $520. I didn't call them shills otherwise that post would disappear into thin air but said it must've been written some time ago or by someone who didn't do their research.

I checked the link, but something seemed off. Your link is to the 9950X - not the 9950X3D. The X3D is $719, although there is a 3rd party (probably scam) at $469