gaming/vr build

[MonKENy]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor ($349.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Corsair - H55 57.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($59.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - CROSSHAIR VI HERO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($239.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: *G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($243.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: *Samsung - 850 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($137.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Samsung - 850 Pro Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($472.96 @ Amazon)
Video Card: *Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING Video Card ($768.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: *EVGA - SuperNOVA 1000 P2 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($174.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $2448.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-23 12:58 EDT-0400

 

[whm1974]

Looks good to me. Which VR Headset are you plan on using?

 

[MonKENy]

We have the Vive. Runs ok on this machine but Id like to get it moving better.

 

[Valantar]

Unless you plan on getting a second GPU in SLI, that power supply is way overpowered. That setup won't exceed 500W at the wall even if you clock the snot out of both CPU and GPU. A 750W P2 (if they make one) should be plenty good enough. Heck, 850 is pretty much enough for SLI. By buying an overpowered PSU, all you're doing is wasting power by staying far outside of the efficiency sweet spot.

Other than that, the build looks good. You're kind of cheaping out on the CPU cooling (at least compared to your budget), but it should be sufficient and then some. Of, course, if gaming is the heaviest load this will see, you're gaining nothing at all from 32GB RAM vs 16, and the 1700X vs 1600X (arguably the 1600X will be faster due to higher clocks at stock). I would rather do that and save the money left over for the next GPU upgrade or a CPU upgrade to whatever comes after Zen2 in 2019-2020 (which will hopefully have higher clocks).

I take it you have a case and fans?

 

[MonKENy]

Unless you plan on getting a second GPU in SLI, that power supply is way overpowered. That setup won't exceed 500W at the wall even if you clock the snot out of both CPU and GPU. A 750W P2 (if they make one) should be plenty good enough. Heck, 850 is pretty much enough for SLI. By buying an overpowered PSU, all you're doing is wasting power by staying far outside of the efficiency sweet spot.

Other than that, the build looks good. You're kind of cheaping out on the CPU cooling (at least compared to your budget), but it should be sufficient and then some. Of, course, if gaming is the heaviest load this will see, you're gaining nothing at all from 32GB RAM vs 16, and the 1700X vs 1600X (arguably the 1600X will be faster due to higher clocks at stock). I would rather do that and save the money left over for the next GPU upgrade or a CPU upgrade to whatever comes after Zen2 in 2019-2020 (which will hopefully have higher clocks).

I take it you have a case and fans?

Yep using the same case, I went with the bigger PSU because I might do a custom WC in the future. Never done one before and I can OC the card and CPU. Want to do a GPU and CPU loop. This PSU makes it pretty future proof as well.

 

[Valantar]

Yep using the same case, I went with the bigger PSU because I might do a custom WC in the future. Never done one before and I can OC the card and CPU. Want to do a GPU and CPU loop. This PSU makes it pretty future proof as well.

I'd argue that you're just as future proof with a 750-850W PSU. Unless you go way over the top with two or three industrial-type pumps (which really isn't necessary in any loop, but especially so in a single GPU, single CPU loop with a couple of rads), water cooling consumes 20-30W or so (in addition to the fans, which you should already have). No need to overprovision your PSU for that.

As for overclocking, you won't be able to push your 1700X faster than ~3.9-4.1GHz on all cores (this is a hard architectural limit, unless you use NO2, you're not getting past that), and it will in no way exceed 200W power draw on its own. And while you might be able to push the 1080Ti to 2.1GHz, that's not much further than what GPU boost 3.0 will bring it to by itself (often 1.9GHz-ish), and Pascal doesn't allow for turning up the voltage (only "offsetting" how early in the VDFS curve the highest voltages kick in). As such, those two together will under no circumstances exceed 550W (probably not even running FurMark and OCCT or similar power virus loads). While gaming, I'd expect 20-30% less than that again - which should land you right at the 50% load efficiency sweet spot of a PSU in the 800W range, or ever so slightly above for a 750W unit.

Of course, if you just want an overpowered PSU, go for it. But don't fool yourself thinking you're getting much in return for it. I wholeheartedly agree with the choice of PSU make/product line, but that wattage is excessive. Still, at least you're not thinking 1200-1400W

 

[MonKENy]

I'd argue that you're just as future proof with a 750-850W PSU. Unless you go way over the top with two or three industrial-type pumps (which really isn't necessary in any loop, but especially so in a single GPU, single CPU loop with a couple of rads), water cooling consumes 20-30W or so (in addition to the fans, which you should already have). No need to overprovision your PSU for that.

As for overclocking, you won't be able to push your 1700X faster than ~3.9-4.1GHz on all cores (this is a hard architectural limit, unless you use NO2, you're not getting past that), and it will in no way exceed 200W power draw on its own. And while you might be able to push the 1080Ti to 2.1GHz, that's not much further than what GPU boost 3.0 will bring it to by itself (often 1.9GHz-ish), and Pascal doesn't allow for turning up the voltage (only "offsetting" how early in the VDFS curve the highest voltages kick in). As such, those two together will under no circumstances exceed 550W (probably not even running FurMark and OCCT or similar power virus loads). While gaming, I'd expect 20-30% less than that again - which should land you right at the 50% load efficiency sweet spot of a PSU in the 800W range, or ever so slightly above for a 750W unit.

Of course, if you just want an overpowered PSU, go for it. But don't fool yourself thinking you're getting much in return for it. I wholeheartedly agree with the choice of PSU make/product line, but that wattage is excessive. Still, at least you're not thinking 1200-1400W

Ill see what the price diff per change on the PSU is and if its a good difference drop to 800.

 

[aigomorla]

Personally i would spend the extra little and get the 1800x as they are better bin'd, and may net a better overclock also be able to get 4.0ghz+ on it which i hear from people is quite difficult on a 1700x.

OK first... TOSS that motherboard out the window and say goodbye overpriced ROG~
Get a ASRock TaiChi
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157757

Look at our ryzen build thread in cpu's.
You'll see everyone recommending it.
I have it, and well its a wonderful board.

Storage: *Samsung - 850 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($137.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Samsung - 850 Pro Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($472.96 @ Amazon)

no... just no... not unless u intend to do something massive on IOP scale... but for gaming/vr... again no...

First storage, get a 960 EVO M.2 NVME drive.... designate that your OS drive.
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-960-...e=UTF8&qid=1495652022&sr=8-2&keywords=960+evo

Why cuz that 960 EVO is easily 6x faster then a 850 SATA drive.

Second storage, get a Crucial x300 2TB, or get a Mushiken Reactor 1TB if your on a budget, and use the offset for a 1800X + that 960 EVO.
https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-MX30...e=UTF8&qid=1495652053&sr=1-2&keywords=2tb+ssd
https://www.amazon.com/Mushkin-REAC...e=UTF8&qid=1495652086&sr=1-5&keywords=1tb+ssd


Why you ask? because i have gamed on both PRO's / EVO's / Corsairs / NVME's and well, in games unless that .2ms faster load time is important, they all run at the same rate of speed.

So you want capacity > speed in SSD for games as they all basically are the same in experience.

Lastly... again get rid of the overpriced ROG brand videocard...
Get the Gigabyte AORUS instead
Extreme Edition:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XXJL3HM/?tag=pcpapi-20

Regular:
https://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=GV-108TR11&c=CJ

 

[MonKENy]

Better?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Corsair - H55 57.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($59.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - CROSSHAIR VI HERO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($238.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: *G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: *Samsung - 850 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($137.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Samsung - 850 Pro Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($471.53 @ Amazon)
Video Card: *Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING Video Card ($768.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA P2 750W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2387.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-26 23:10 EDT-0400

 

[aigomorla]

looks good to me...

But lemme ask you this MonKENy.
Can you really not afford to wait?

Coffeelake is due in like 2 months.
I would think it would be to your best point to wait and see what intel can dish out and the price at which it comes out before you hit the buy, unless time is not on your side.

 

[MadOver]

Better?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor ($349.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - MasterLiquid Pro 240 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 Taichi ATX AM4 Motherboard ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: *G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($249.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($127.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 2.0TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($510.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AORUS Xtreme Edition 11G Video Card ($749.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: *EVGA - SuperNOVA 1000 P2 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($174.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $2463.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-25 16:37 EDT-0400

Looks def. good, but... 1000w PSU? really?

Check this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFx26E_DBUY

 

[MonKENy]

Looks def. good, but... 1000w PSU? really?

Check this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFx26E_DBUY

thought i dropped that down

Fixed

 

[aigomorla]

lol do u go back to your old parts?

 

[MonKENy]

damn it,

 

[MonKENy]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor ($339.97 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - MasterLiquid Pro 240 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 Taichi ATX AM4 Motherboard ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: *G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($249.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($127.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 2.0TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($510.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AORUS Xtreme Edition 11G Video Card ($745.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA P2 750W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($122.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $2397.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-31 17:55 EDT-0400

Ok NOW how does it look? What changes?

 

[Valantar]

For compatibility's sake, I would look for an equivalent FlareX RAM kit rather than the Ripjaws - it's one of the few kits made especially for Ryzen, guaranteeing you Samsung B-die ram chips. The Ripjaws will work just fine, but the FlareX might be easier to get to run at its rated speed.

Other than that, it all looks excellent to me. The SSD choice is far better than your first setup. While I don't know why @aigomorla pointed out the Asus graphics card as overpriced considering its the same price as the Aorus (does it have inferior VRMs or something?), they're all damn good cards. The 750W PSU is a far better choice than your initial 1000W pick, although it's still more than you need. At least it'll still have plenty of capacity left in 7-8-10 years when it's degraded a bit and the warranty runs out (unlike my then 7-year-old 850W unit that died the day after I installed my Fury X). It should work very very well for you, and you won't be wasting too much of its potential efficiency. The motherboard is said to be excellent (rave reviews in the Ryzen builders thread, at least), and the 1700X is a great choice - 95% of the performance of the 1800X for $100 less. Wait, $340 for the 1700X? Those are 1700 non-X prices. That's a great deal.

 

[aigomorla]

ROG = Ripped Off Gamers. :X

Asus charges a premium for the ROG tag, which offers very little.
The Auros i linked before has higher clocks, and offers the same features of ROG at a cheaper price.