Gattaca

[GoingUp]

its a great movie. its too bad that some people arent intelligent enough to understand it.

 

[clamum]

I just saw it from a recommendation from a thread I started. It's a good movie, I recommend it to those who like (or don't like, too) sci-fi.

 

A certain person recommended it to me, but, boy, did I live to regret watching that crap! Ah, just kidding!

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
its a great movie. its too bad that some people arent intelligent enough to understand it.

Not everyone is as nerdy as you. :roll: And just because you love science fiction doesn't mean that everyone does ... oh, I forgot that I was on a nerdy forum skewed toward that direction. :roll:

 

[Juice Box]

Did some research online, and found it was written by the same guy as The Truman Show. Another great movie, and I can see many similarites between them.

 

[TheOmegaCode]

Great dialogue, cast, synergy, and artisic content. A very well received movie which deserves it's praise.

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry

Originally posted by: Mik3y
it did end with him shooting off into space, but before that, he mentioned to uma therman that he was so many thousand heartbeats beyond his estimated heart failure. this basically means that his 1% chance of living came true, but it also means that he still has a weak heart, so he still has a possibility of having a heart failure later on.

But the point was that the pre-determined predictions for his "fate" didn't come true, and that he was realizing his dream in spite of that. I think that was kind of the point of the ending.

Practically-speaking, in terms of the overall good of the space program, perhaps he was being personally-selfish, a bit. But on the other hand, isn't a bit of that required, in order to achieve your goals? If you live your life only for everyone else around you, and according to what they say, you will never have or achieve anything for yourself.

He did achieve his goal, despite the fact that the deck was stacked against him. However, we are to assume that he does die in space. Which is why Jude Law does what he does in the end.

 

[shuan24]

just added it to my netflix queue...better be good! :thumbsup:

 

[torpid]

Was I the only one who thought it was not only dna sequence letters but a reference to attica? It seems quite relevant... those prisoners wanted education, vocational training, etc. In other words, basic human rights.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: TheOmegaCode
Great dialogue, cast, synergy, and artisic content. A very well received movie which deserves it's praise.
He did achieve his goal, despite the fact that the deck was stacked against him. However, we are to assume that he does die in space. Which is why Jude Law does what he does in the end.

I interpreted it a bit differently. I thought he was ultimately escaping his confines (the attica reference) and achieving his goals and dreams, whereas jude law ultimately failed in his life.

 

[rahvin]

The social comentary was interesting but the most important facet of the production was that a future that WILL happen was presented. Pandora's Box was opened years ago and I have no doubt in my mind that my children will be altering the genes of their children and just like the movie it will start with removal of bad genes (cancer, diabetes, etc) and progress to enhancement in short order. It won't be long before the super humans dominate society and everyone is scripted genetically for their role in society.

 

[AMDZen]

Seen it. Loved it, one of my all-time favorite movies ever.

Not to mention, it could be a very real outlook on the future.

 

[mordantmonkey]

didn't jude law do what he did because he realized that his predicament, was no different than ethan hawke's character? they were both victims of events outside their control and were baisically shuned by society because of it.

maybe i'm forgetting, saw that movie looooooong ago. i thought jude sacrificed himself in some way... i forget now, i'll have to watch it again.

definately in my top 100 of all-time. just shows that you don't have to have rediculous amounts of money to make a great movie. though i'm sure well paid actors help considerably.

 

[shilala]

I enjoyed it. I saw it a long time ago, I'd like to see it again.

 

[Juice Box]

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey
didn't jude law do what he did because he realized that his predicament, was no different than ethan hawke's character? they were both victims of events outside their control and were baisically shuned by society because of it.

maybe i'm forgetting, saw that movie looooooong ago. i thought jude sacrificed himself in some way... i forget now, i'll have to watch it again.

definately in my top 100 of all-time. just shows that you don't have to have rediculous amounts of money to make a great movie. though i'm sure well paid actors help considerably.

yeah, at some point Jude says "I only lent you my body, but you lent me your dream"

 

[LtPage1]

it had some dumb parts, with all the chintsy parallel structure, but overall pretty damn good.

 

[LiekOMG]

MIGHT BE SPOILER - SKIP IF YOU'VE NEVER SEEN IT

Me and my friend got into a slight argument over the ending of this movie. Specifically the part with the doctor and when he says "My son is a big fan of yours". What exactly does he mean by this? My friend says the doctor is really his (Ethan Hawke's) father, but that would make absolutely no sense.

 

[paulney]

Originally posted by: DOACleric
MIGHT BE SPOILER - SKIP IF YOU'VE NEVER SEEN IT

Me and my friend got into a slight argument over the ending of this movie. Specifically the part with the doctor and when he says "My son is a big fan of yours". What exactly does he mean by this? My friend says the doctor is really his (Ethan Hawke's) father, but that would make absolutely no sense.

Either:

a. Ethan Hawke is known for his abilities and oustanding career outside walls of Gattaca, and serves as an example to a young generation (like astronauts to boy scouts) or:

b. Doctor has been telling his son that there is a man brave enough to pursue his dream in spite of the harshest penalties the society will impose on him for breaking so many rules at once.

 

[Juice Box]

Originally posted by: DOACleric
MIGHT BE SPOILER - SKIP IF YOU'VE NEVER SEEN IT

Me and my friend got into a slight argument over the ending of this movie. Specifically the part with the doctor and when he says "My son is a big fan of yours". What exactly does he mean by this? My friend says the doctor is really his (Ethan Hawke's) father, but that would make absolutely no sense.

no no, its not his dad, however the Dr has a son that was god born like Vincent. And the Dr respects everything he has done for himself, and knows how rough it can be, having a son that has the same problem, which is why he helps him at the end there.

 

[anxi80]

Originally posted by: DOACleric
MIGHT BE SPOILER - SKIP IF YOU'VE NEVER SEEN IT

Me and my friend got into a slight argument over the ending of this movie. Specifically the part with the doctor and when he says "My son is a big fan of yours". What exactly does he mean by this? My friend says the doctor is really his (Ethan Hawke's) father, but that would make absolutely no sense.

watched it this morning (coincidentally this thread got bumped)... anyways, i read something on imdb a few days ago that made a lot of sense to me and this is what i believe now.

The Doc's son was not a natural child birth. In the film he says "My son is a big fan of yours. He wants to apply here. Unfortunately, he's not all that they promised but then who know what he could do." Which implies to me that they went through the trouble of having the son genetically configured only to have the science screw up, which is really one of the messages of the movie.

 

[BullsOnParade]

The screenplay for the movie is floating around on the net if anyone is interested in what didn't make the final cut. There
are some really interesting scenes. I had always been confused by the screening at the ending. Was it that they had instituted
a new test before their astronauts went up in space (i liked the space suits btw). Or was it that they had changed their way of testing
and Vincent could not cheat his way out of it. Plus I thought the implication was that the doctor at the end had a son who was similar to Jerome,
rather than actually being Jerome's father. In fact they show Jerome's father early in the movie and imply that he's definitely not doctor material.

 

[anxi80]

^ when people say that the doctor is jeromes father, i think they mean the real jerome morrow (jude law's 'jerome'). it would fit in the context of what the doctor says. but i never considered it that way when ive watched the movie and im sticking with what i quoted up above.

 

[Juice Box]

Originally posted by: anxi80
^ when people say that the doctor is jeromes father, i think they mean the real jerome morrow (jude law's 'jerome'). it would fit in the context of what the doctor says. but i never considered it that way when ive watched the movie and im sticking with what i quoted up above.

I dont think thats the case, because what he was implying is that his son was supposed ot be perfect, but something went wrong with the science. The real Jerome actually was perfect, until he got in that car accident

 

[anxi80]

Originally posted by: digitalsnare
I dont think thats the case, because what he was implying is that his son was supposed ot be perfect, but something went wrong with the science. The real Jerome actually was perfect, until he got in that car accident

you are correct. ive reread it, and it wouldnt make much sense. ive actually heard a few theories to the ending. even one that did involve that he was the real jerome's dad. also, ive read one where a peson believes that lamar was the one who commited the murder. damn, so many interpertations... i love this movie!!!

 

[sparkyclarky]

Originally posted by: torpid
Was I the only one who thought it was not only dna sequence letters but a reference to attica? It seems quite relevant... those prisoners wanted education, vocational training, etc. In other words, basic human rights.

Yep - always have thought that

 

[BurnItDwn]

Excellent movie. I recommend picking up the DVD, that way you don't have to suffer through commercials.

 

[Juice Box]

Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
Excellent movie. I recommend picking up the DVD, that way you don't have to suffer through commercials.

heh, yeah