Geforce 6800 stuttering problem

[Chosonman]

I have a 6800 NU and just about every time I play either HL2, CS:Source, even Madden 2004 I experience what can only be described as a stuttering problems. The sound repeates annoyingly for a few seconds and sometimes the screen flickers, but mostly the screen freezes.

I've found some forums on this topic on google so I'm thinking the the 6800 has stuttering problems inherent in the design. Anyone else experience this and if so what solutions have you found to solve this problem short of installing new drivers (I've already installed new a driver and it didn't help)

I've also heard dissabling fast writes helps. So I turned fastwrites off. But I'm curious what fastwrites does and am I sacrificing performance by turning it off.

Finally has anyone heard what if anything NVidia is doing to solve the constant bugs on these cards? I hear the HD video component is broke and now this. I'm really starting to regret getting NVidia and strongly considering going to ATI the next time I upgrade.

 

[imverygifted]

i dont kno much about madden 2004, but hl2/css is a very intenese game try decreasing your settings. i dont find these cards to be very buggy

 

[Machine350]

I've got the BFG 6800 and never had the problems you describe. Although, I've never played those games either. But I can play Far Cry with all the settings cranked up without a hitch. You may just have a defective card.

 

[OlDirtyRestaurant]

This has been a problem for many people now, and the fix has varies greatly from system to system. What worked for me was to turn off fast writes. Now the card works like a dream... I have all pipes and vertex shaders unlocked. Some suggestions:
-(a dumb one) make sure the molex connector is plugged in.
-Make sure your mobo is supplying enough voltage
-Power supply issues?
-Overheating issues?

Other than that google around and try visiting many a different forum. I have read a ton of material all over the net about this problem. A lil' more digging and you'll find what you are looking for. Good luck.

 

[Chosonman]

I'm really starting to hate this card. I had to turn the overclocls off and uninstall Riva Tuner. Hopefully that works. If not I'll have to try a new PSU.
I'm running a 400 watt antec smartpower in a 754 AMD 3000, 1gig ram, 2 Wester digital Hard drives, dvd/cd ROM, and a thermaltake Tsunami Case.

 

[blckgrffn]

We just talked about this....

But yeah, 6800's seem to have some issues with Source engine, I think specifically that nVidia's drivers are at fault.

Nat

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: Chosonman
I'm really starting to hate this card. I had to turn the overclocls off and uninstall Riva Tuner. Hopefully that works. If not I'll have to try a new PSU.
I'm running a 400 watt antec smartpower in a 754 AMD 3000, 1gig ram, 2 Wester digital Hard drives, dvd/cd ROM, and a thermaltake Tsunami Case.

Wow... you might have to run your card at the stock specs (which is what you paid for) for it work right. Do you think that nVidia and people that manufacture video cards are retatrds!?! They know what they are doing. I'm not opposed to OCing, but it shouldn't be expected - it's luck of the draw.

Before you make wild claims, such as:

I'm thinking the the 6800 has stuttering problems inherent in the design

and

what if anything NVidia is doing to solve the constant bugs on these cards?

...you might want to try running the card as it was intended to instead of trying to outsmart nVidia's engineers. Most of the issues I have encountered with NV40 are the result of OCing or some other user error. Of course, if you still have errors after you run at stock, you might have some legit issues with your card or system.

Originally posted by: blckgrffn
We just talked about this....

But yeah, 6800's seem to have some issues with Source engine, I think specifically that nVidia's drivers are at fault.

Nat

You may be correct (and I'm glad you got your issue resolved), but from looking at that thread your rig and card are overclocked as well... When troubleshooting, always put your settings to stock first before you start ripping in a company's hardware or drivers.

 

[Chosonman]

nitromullet

WHERE IS MY HD VIDEO?
IT'S MY CARD AND I CAN CHOOSE TO RUN IT THE WAY I WANT TO. IF OTHER PEOPLE ARE NOT HAVING PROBLEMS DOING THE SAME I SHOULD BE CONCERNED.
NVIDIA SUCKS AND SO DOES DOES YOUR USELESS FLAME!

 

[onlyCOpunk]

My eVGA 6800 stutters on some games, but that's because I only have 512mb of ram.

 

[nitromullet]

WHERE IS MY HD VIDEO?

Your only valid point, but not relevant to your game stuttering issue.

IT'S MY CARD AND I CAN CHOOSE TO RUN IT THE WAY I WANT TO.

Yes, you can, but don't bitch on a forum about the "stuttering problems inherent in the design" when you are running the card out of spec.

OTHER PEOPLE ARE NOT HAVING PROBLEMS DOING THE SAME I SHOULD BE CONCERNED.

No, you shouldn't. You should be concerned (and are entitled to a replacement) if the product you purchased doesn't operate as intended. Not only do you have the card OC'ed, but apparently it is unlocked as well, "Jaton 128 MB Nvidia GeForce 6800 16/6 Unlocked". Again, nVidia aren't retards. They sold you a neutered 6800GT for a reason, it wasn't meant to have 16 pipes becuase one or more of the pipes is flawed. Do you think that they want to sell perfectly good 6800GT chips for less?

NVIDIA SUCKS AND SO DOES DOES YOUR USELESS FLAME!

I sincerely hope you get that stuttering problem worked out.

 

[blckgrffn]

You don't think that I tried completely non oc'ing my system? Well I did, I am no fool. It stuttered the same at stock as OC'ed, so the mhz went back up. Please don't just assume that I am a fool, I would have hoped that you gotten a better impression from my post. Also, many people complained in my thread about the stuttering, so I think that it is a real problem, both in Source and the Nvidia driver set.


Later,
Nat

I have to learn to preview first!

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Chosonman
nitromullet

WHERE IS MY HD VIDEO?
IT'S MY CARD AND I CAN CHOOSE TO RUN IT THE WAY I WANT TO. IF OTHER PEOPLE ARE NOT HAVING PROBLEMS DOING THE SAME I SHOULD BE CONCERNED.
NVIDIA SUCKS AND SO DOES DOES YOUR USELESS FLAME!

Let's see:

You buy a Jaton 6800NU, the cheapest brand out there (remember Trident a.k.a Jaton anyone?) run it OCd and unlocked with a 3rd party software, and "nVidia sucks"?

:roll:

Guess what? I have a X800 XT PE, that costs over twice as much as your Jaton NU, and no HD video either! I've got it on my 6600GT SLI rig though, although I haven't played with it yet.

You're just mad you didn't get performance you didn't pay for.

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: Chosonman
nitromullet

WHERE IS MY HD VIDEO?
IT'S MY CARD AND I CAN CHOOSE TO RUN IT THE WAY I WANT TO. IF OTHER PEOPLE ARE NOT HAVING PROBLEMS DOING THE SAME I SHOULD BE CONCERNED.
NVIDIA SUCKS AND SO DOES DOES YOUR USELESS FLAME!

You may have ruined your card overclocking it. You don't sound like someone who knows how to handle a system. My card is unlocked and overclocked just fine, and I suffer no issues at all. Before declaring a card defunct, troubleshoot it. Your PSU and heat are the most likely culprits. A 400w Antec (non truepower), while a good powersupply, is not going to be strong enough on the 12v line to support an A64 rig and a 6800 with overclocked settings, IMO. Also, you should use your Nvidia control panel and see how your temps are.

 

[nitromullet]

I have a friend of mine that is running the DFI nForce3 250 chip with a BFG 6800GT that is also exhibiting stuttering in HL2 when his card is clocked at the stock 370/1000, but not at 350/1000. I noticed that all the people having these issues are running A64 w/ nForce3 250. I don't have any experience with A64/nForce3, so don't want to point the finger at that... I find it an interesting coicidence though. May be worth investigating further.

 

[blckgrffn]

Nitro - I have to noticed this too, but I know people with the GF3 chipset who experience no problems what-so-ever, including a guy down the hall from me with a chantech 250 board and a eVGA 6800. But now that I think about it, the HL2 documentation inidcates that this problem supposedly only really comes out when high resolutions and AA are being used, which that guy isn't due to a monitor stuck at 1024*768. Hmm. I wish it were just fixed by either Valve or nVidia! I don't count having to use the latest beta drivers as fixed.

 

[tr1kstanc3]

its a 6800 problem. try using the official nvidia nforce and forceware drivers. i know the beta nforce/forceware drivers would cause the stuttering on my old rig. what temp is your card hitting? adding the nv5 silencer brought my temp down 8 degrees celsius and overclocking benefited. have you tried adding a little more voltage to the agp? perhaps 1.6v? i could run mine fine with fast writes but this is luck of the draw.

in the end i got my card working fine with the 61.82 whql drivers and 5.10 nforce drivers. even overclocked it to 350/800 and no stuttering issue. however i did get the x800xt and noticed a huge overall improvement. 2d text, 3d image quality, and overall build quality is always top notch with ATi. not to preach or advertise, just telling you how it is.

 

[Appledrop]

Originally posted by: Avalon
A 400w Antec (non truepower), while a good powersupply, is not going to be strong enough on the 12v line to support an A64 rig and a 6800 with overclocked settings, IMO.

of course it is, i run the same psu with my system.

 

[nitromullet]

I don't count having to use the latest beta drivers as fixed.

I agree, but at least you don't have the issue anymore.

in the end i got my card working fine with the 61.82 whql drivers and 5.10 nforce drivers. even overclocked it to 350/800 and no stuttering issue. however i did get the x800xt and noticed a huge overall improvement. 2d text, 3d image quality, and overall build quality is always top notch with ATi. not to preach or advertise, just telling you how it is

I should hope so.. the XT is a much more expensive card, plus you're talking about the ATi/HL2 combo... I was considering an XT PE myself, but I checked my framerates in HL2DM with the 6800GT, and they are fine, even at 1680x1050 AAx4/AFx8. With online games, the ping is what really counts.