GF FX Ultra :Dead

[Killrose]

Saw this over at HardOCP. The GF FX Ultra is not going to make release.

Stillborn

 

[jm0ris0n]

Yikes!

 

[LemmywinksTGK]

nvidia's gonna get a lot of crap for this one

 

[Sully]

Interesting!! I ordered the Geforce FX did I make the right choice?

 

[BoomAM]

According to Guru3D, nVidia aint scrapping the GFFX.
And even if they are, 100,000 units are already being produced anyway, so anyone whos pre-ordered one, will still get one.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Just the Ultra is gone. This will adversely affect nVidia though.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

This is almost unbelievable to me. In a year, nVidia has gone from being the market leader to being a distant, slightly pathetic pretender to the throne. It seems as though their push to go to a .13 fab has set them back by a year in development. On the bright side, there is at least a bona fide competition going between nVidia and ATi, whereas a couple of years ago it seemed as though nobody could compete with nVidia. Now if Bit Boys would just get their part out . . .

 

[Johneverd]

Originally posted by: BoomAM
According to Guru3D, nVidia aint scrapping the GFFX.
And even if they are, 100,000 units are already being produced anyway, so anyone whos pre-ordered one, will still get one.

Makes me wonder how reliable those 100,000 will be if thats all that they can get to function. Hmmmmm

 

[sash1]

Originally posted by: Johneverd

Originally posted by: BoomAM
According to Guru3D, nVidia aint scrapping the GFFX.
And even if they are, 100,000 units are already being produced anyway, so anyone whos pre-ordered one, will still get one.

Makes me wonder how reliable those 100,000 will be if thats all that they can get to function. Hmmmmm

It's not that that is the only amount of cards they could get to function, it was the fact that the FX would make no dent in the market place so they decided their Ultra would not hit the shelves.

 

[Deeko]

oh man,....they are so dead this round.

 

[ScrewFace]

Let's not count nVidia out just yet. They have the XBox and the great new nForce2 mobo. They're diversafide so they can have a lousy product or 2 once in awhile. They'll be back.

 

[daywalker]

Personally, i love it.

Nvidia finally learned its lesson: NO ONE stays on top forever...

 

[daywalker]

Originally posted by: ScrewFace
Let's not count nVidia out just yet. They have the XBox and the great new nForce2 mobo. They're diversafide so they can have a lousy product or 2 once in awhile. They'll be back.

The XBOX? After the dispute with Microsoft that ended in courts, Nvidia wished it never HAD a part in the XBOX from the first place. Nvidia had significant losses from that PC-like console. You can check the detailes over here

The nforce2 chipset is probably the only thing that is going good for Nvidia at the moment.

And NO they have no right releasing a lousy product after all the hype crap they put us through for almost a year. I found my self laughing when i saw that blender card, sounding like a truck and being only 10% faster than the R300. Ridiculous.

Still, the plain 5800 can benefit A LOT when it comes to performance through driver revisions, because of the flexibility of its Pixel & Vertex shaders. Even Carmack stated that he reached some dead ends when programming with the R300. But the NV30 doesnt have such issues. Actually his exact quote goes like this:

For developers doing forward looking work, there is a different tradeoff --
the NV30 runs fragment programs much slower, but it has a huge maximum
instruction count. I have bumped into program limits on the R300 already

 

[Metalloid]

Originally posted by: daywalker
Personally, i love it.

Nvidia finally learned its lesson: NO ONE stays on top forever...

I can't say that I personally want either ATI or Nvidia on top. The more equal they are, the more competetion there will be, which is great for consumers.

 

[deepinya]

Can someone directly link me to what you all are talking about?

Thx

 

[nemesismk2]

I don't know why people are even talking about the Geforce FX being dead when it's not been confirmed yet. Even if the story is accurate it doesn't mean the end for Nvidia, they make most of their money from the older Geforce lines anyway. Hell they even make money from the rubbish Geforce2 MX's they forced on the world.

 

[Richdog]

Boo to NVIDIA, I say ATI is the way forward! I'm by no means a fanboy, but I think ATI is the new AMD, bringing excellent performance at more competetive prices. Geforce FX sounds like a jet engine, takes 2 PCI slots, and is only marginally faster than RADEON 9700 at a far higher price. And by the time it's advanced shading get's put to good use it will long have been superceded by the "Next Big Thing". I've got a Ti 200 and the radeon 9700 is my next buy.

 

[daywalker]

Originally posted by: nemesismk2
I don't know why people are even talking about the Geforce FX being dead when it's not been confirmed yet.

The story has been around for 2 whole weeks and Nvidia hasnt made any statements about it. Id say its VERY true.

 

[nemesismk2]

Originally posted by: daywalker

Originally posted by: nemesismk2
I don't know why people are even talking about the Geforce FX being dead when it's not been confirmed yet.

The story has been around for 2 whole weeks and Nvidia hasnt made any statements about it. Id say its VERY true.

That's not proof that the story is true, why hasn't any of the big hardware sites like Anandtech verified that story?

 

[Keysplayr]

Can we say, "denial"?
hehe

 

[BoomAM]

Originally posted by: Richdog
I've got a Ti 200 and the radeon 9700 is my next buy.

You wont belive the performance increase. I did the same a few weeks ago. Unbeliveable.
If i was you, i`d download all of the radeon stuff a few days before you get it, and then make a backup somewhere. Reformat the HD, re-install windows, the install the newest radeon drivers & stuff.
The latest ATI driver is 3.0a by the way.

 

[daywalker]

Originally posted by: nemesismk2

That's not proof that the story is true, why hasn't any of the big hardware sites like Anandtech verified that story?

Actually, i did learn about it through Anandtech

I admit that i also find the info to be a bit fishy, but after the complaints of tons of users around the world about the card's various issues, it makes a lot of sense for Nvidia to do so.

 

[nemesismk2]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Can we say, "denial"?
hehe

Personally I don't care if the GF FX is dead or not because I wouldn't spend that much on a video card anyway.

How many other sites have run the same story without saying "according to HardOCP the GF FX is dead"?
Where did HardOCP get their information from?

 

[Metalloid]

Originally posted by: Richdog
Boo to NVIDIA, I say ATI is the way forward! I'm by no means a fanboy, but I think ATI is the new AMD, bringing excellent performance at more competetive prices. Geforce FX sounds like a jet engine, takes 2 PCI slots, and is only marginally faster than RADEON 9700 at a far higher price. And by the time it's advanced shading get's put to good use it will long have been superceded by the "Next Big Thing". I've got a Ti 200 and the radeon 9700 is my next buy.

A few personal comments about the Geforce FX "cons:"

Noisy fan:
I already have a Delta 80mm 80cfm 52.5dba and 2 Delta 120mm 130cfm fans.
Also, has anyone here personally heard the fan on it?

2 PCI slots:
I find it hard to imagine that anyone could use all of their PCI slots. Besides, the first PCI slot usually has IRQ conflicts with AGP slot.

Price:
No more expensive than Radeon 9700 Pro when it came out. Give it a few weeks and it will be "reasonable."

In fact, the only reason I am not going to buy a GF FX Ultra is because I already have a Radeon 9700 Pro.


And I also would like to get some evidence of the Ultra being dead. I can't see Nvidia spending all this time working on a card, and then not selling it anymore just because it barely beats the 9700 Pro and doesn't completely live up to everyone's full expectations.

 

[sep]

Originally posted by: daywalker
Personally, i love it.

Nvidia finally learned its lesson: NO ONE stays on top forever...

I agree...I just hope the 3dfx curse doesn't bring them down!