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RagingBITCH

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Sep 27, 2003
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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
The Giants would lose either way, as Josh said. Who gives a crap who they start? Worthless team that'd get spanked easily by the Pats.

The Eagles came *this* close to beating the Pats. The Giants beat the Eagles twice this year and are clearly a superior team. Baltimore almost beat the Pats as well. Anything can happen. Sure, the Pats are obviously a better team. Can they be beaten by the Giants? Certainly. Unlikely, but certainly possible.

The difference between a mediocre team and a good team is that a good team usually wins in the end. Who gives a crap that the Eagles and Baltimore almost beat the Pats? They're mediocre at best. I'd be surprised if the Giants make it past the first round. Sorry ass Eli Manwhore.
 

Phokus

Lifer
Nov 20, 1999
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Originally posted by: yamadakun
Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
Sadly i thought the refs made too many iffy calls.

The personal foul on 81 was WTF.

We couldn't see the personal foul because all the Giants on the sideline were blocking the camera
 

jediphx

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Oct 4, 2000
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Please im not even a giants fan or pats fan but those refs we so paid off to not make the BIG calls against the patriots in that game (which there were a bunch) the giants were screwed.
 

Phokus

Lifer
Nov 20, 1999
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Originally posted by: jediphx
Please im not even a giants fan or pats fan but those refs we so paid off to not make the BIG calls against the patriots in that game (which there were a bunch) the giants were screwed.

Please, what about that 'group celebration' penalty against the Pats after Moss scored the 1st touchdown? That was the most ridiculous penalty ever and gave the Giants a free Kick return for a TD. Give me a break.

Edit: Oh and lets not forget about that phantom "illegal formation" penalty... they replayed that sh*t and the pats had MORE than enough offensive linemen on the line of scrimmage.
 

Perknose

Forum Director & Omnipotent Overlord
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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: meltdown75
Refs sucked both ways, that's pro sports for ya sometimes :thumbsup:
And there you have it.

 

Spineshank

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Jun 8, 2001
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Originally posted by: yamadakun
Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
Sadly i thought the refs made too many iffy calls.

The personal foul on 81 was WTF.

There was that. Which looked to me like the Pats guy just tripped over his own damn feet in the shuffle.

The first Moss TD i thought he pushed off.

The poke to Jacobs eye when the ref is in the picture..sure he may have not seen it but isnt it his job to be watching that stuff during a scuffle.

The flag they called early on Webster for illegal contact was BS too.
 

Spineshank

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Jun 8, 2001
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: BlackTigers91
Originally posted by: yamadakun
Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
Sadly i thought the refs made too many iffy calls.

The personal foul on 81 was WTF.

That one caught me off guard as well.

But Gumble mumbling 'keep your eye on toomer...keep your eye on toomer...keep your eye on toomer...keep your eye on toomer" for 20 secodns was funny, lol.

Yeah that was strange, I kept my eye on him and didn't see anything noteworthy. But the personal foul call on the Patriots on the same return was a bad call too, so it's all good.



It was, but that call was nixed.
 

ThePresence

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Nov 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
The Giants would lose either way, as Josh said. Who gives a crap who they start? Worthless team that'd get spanked easily by the Pats.

The Eagles came *this* close to beating the Pats. The Giants beat the Eagles twice this year and are clearly a superior team. Baltimore almost beat the Pats as well. Anything can happen. Sure, the Pats are obviously a better team. Can they be beaten by the Giants? Certainly. Unlikely, but certainly possible.

The difference between a mediocre team and a good team is that a good team usually wins in the end. Who gives a crap that the Eagles and Baltimore almost beat the Pats? They're mediocre at best. I'd be surprised if the Giants make it past the first round. Sorry ass Eli Manwhore.

I like how you come back at me now, after the Pats win. :roll:
I was arguing that it was possible for the Giants to beat the Pats. And they definitely could've. They certainly didn't get "spanked".
 

meltdown75

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Nov 17, 2004
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It was definitely possible for the Giants to win... there wasn't any spanking, quite a good game. I think the Giants could have pulled it off if they played the same in the 2nd half.

The Pats are just too good... they can take advantage of the slightest weaknesses and I think the Giants showed a lot of weaknesses in the 2nd half.

(not a fan of either team)
 

Epic Fail

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May 10, 2005
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: BlackTigers91
Originally posted by: yamadakun
Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
Sadly i thought the refs made too many iffy calls.

The personal foul on 81 was WTF.

That one caught me off guard as well.

But Gumble mumbling 'keep your eye on toomer...keep your eye on toomer...keep your eye on toomer...keep your eye on toomer" for 20 secodns was funny, lol.

Yeah that was strange, I kept my eye on him and didn't see anything noteworthy. But the personal foul call on the Patriots on the same return was a bad call too, so it's all good.

The Pats didn't get a personal foul in that return, the ref fouled up the kicking/return team.
 
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Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
Originally posted by: yamadakun
Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
Sadly i thought the refs made too many iffy calls.

The personal foul on 81 was WTF.

There was that. Which looked to me like the Pats guy just tripped over his own damn feet in the shuffle.

The first Moss TD i thought he pushed off.

The poke to Jacobs eye when the ref is in the picture..sure he may have not seen it but isnt it his job to be watching that stuff during a scuffle.

The flag they called early on Webster for illegal contact was BS too.

Moss very clearly shoved off on that 4th down conversion (it was the Patriots first drive).
 

JBT

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Nov 28, 2001
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Damit! I totaly forgot this game was on yesturday instead of today like a normal football game. NFL Network you suck for changing schedules all the time!

oh well GO PATS!!!
 

JRich

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Jun 7, 2005
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Originally posted by: buck
Originally posted by: SSSnail
Hey, I just want to make this ONE post regarding this:

1. Most points in a season record, broken.
2. Highest TDs for a quarterback in a season record, broken.
3. Highest receiving TDs for a receiver in a season record, broken.
4. 16 - 0, perfect regular season record held for 35 years, broken.

All in a single game, to the GREATEST football team, cheers. Here's to 19 - 0 and another superbowl ring. :cheers;

Edit: credits to the Giants too, they played their best game this season.

I agree with all of the accounts except for the "GREATEST" tag. They have not earned that yet. You would feel pretty farkin stupid if they lost before winning the superbowl this year.

Bingo. How can you be called the greatest without a SB ring? Sure, they've won three already, but so have other teams. People are already starting to crown them, pathetic, but I will give credit where credit is due. 16-0 is a hefty accomplishment.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: JRich
Originally posted by: buck
Originally posted by: SSSnail
Hey, I just want to make this ONE post regarding this:

1. Most points in a season record, broken.
2. Highest TDs for a quarterback in a season record, broken.
3. Highest receiving TDs for a receiver in a season record, broken.
4. 16 - 0, perfect regular season record held for 35 years, broken.

All in a single game, to the GREATEST football team, cheers. Here's to 19 - 0 and another superbowl ring. :cheers;

Edit: credits to the Giants too, they played their best game this season.

I agree with all of the accounts except for the "GREATEST" tag. They have not earned that yet. You would feel pretty farkin stupid if they lost before winning the superbowl this year.

Bingo. How can you be called the greatest without a SB ring? Sure, they've won three already, but so have other teams. People are already starting to crown them, pathetic, but I will give credit where credit is due. 16-0 is a hefty accomplishment.


i agree. BUT even if they lose they are in the top 5 i would say.
 

JRich

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Jun 7, 2005
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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: JRich
Originally posted by: buck
Originally posted by: SSSnail
Hey, I just want to make this ONE post regarding this:

1. Most points in a season record, broken.
2. Highest TDs for a quarterback in a season record, broken.
3. Highest receiving TDs for a receiver in a season record, broken.
4. 16 - 0, perfect regular season record held for 35 years, broken.

All in a single game, to the GREATEST football team, cheers. Here's to 19 - 0 and another superbowl ring. :cheers;

Edit: credits to the Giants too, they played their best game this season.

I agree with all of the accounts except for the "GREATEST" tag. They have not earned that yet. You would feel pretty farkin stupid if they lost before winning the superbowl this year.

Bingo. How can you be called the greatest without a SB ring? Sure, they've won three already, but so have other teams. People are already starting to crown them, pathetic, but I will give credit where credit is due. 16-0 is a hefty accomplishment.


i agree. BUT even if they lose they are in the top 5 i would say.

I agree with that.
 

Alistar7

Lifer
May 13, 2002
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Likely will be considered the greatest team of the free agency era, but IMHO I don't think they compare to the dynasties in the past. Besides the fact those teams had the luxury of keeping all of their pro bowl/HOF players, they also flourished due to the cohesiveness that stability provided. The Pats will have to win the SB this year to cement their standing, anything short would be an epic failure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Graham

Upon joining the Browns in 1946, he was switched to quarterback, where he would lead the team to the league championship game in each of his 10 seasons, winning on seven occasions.

Thanks to free agency we will never see any team dominate on a championship level for such an extended reign.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: Alistar7
Likely will be considered the greatest team of the free agency era, but IMHO I don't think they compare to the dynasties in the past. Besides the fact those teams had the luxury of keeping all of their pro bowl/HOF, they also flourished due to the cohesiveness that stability provided. The Pats will have to win the SB this year to cement their standing, anything short would be an epic failure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Graham

Upon joining the Browns in 1946, he was switched to quarterback, where he would lead the team to the league championship game in each of his 10 seasons, winning on seven occasions.

Thanks to free agency we will never see any team dominate on a championship level for such an extended reign.

not just free agency. the nfl's idea that each team should be even killed it.
 

JRich

Platinum Member
Jun 7, 2005
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Originally posted by: Alistar7
Likely will be considered the greatest team of the free agency era, but IMHO I don't think they compare to the dynasties in the past. Besides the fact those teams had the luxury of keeping all of their pro bowl/HOF players, they also flourished due to the cohesiveness that stability provided. The Pats will have to win the SB this year to cement their standing, anything short would be an epic failure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Graham

Upon joining the Browns in 1946, he was switched to quarterback, where he would lead the team to the league championship game in each of his 10 seasons, winning on seven occasions.

Thanks to free agency we will never see any team dominate on a championship level for such an extended reign.

Money baby!
 

Alistar7

Lifer
May 13, 2002
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As a Pitt fan in C-Town I'm just glad the Clowns run of 10 straight years in the championship was before my time lol. The great fans of Cleveland deserve a SB and I hope they win one, the season after I pass away.



ThePresence - WTG Giants. So they lost, I don't care. Would've been really nice to take down the Pats, but they still played a hell of a game and have momentum going into the playoffs. Eli looked good for the most part, hope he can keep it up next week. Congrats to the Pats. They are truly a great team. GO GIANTS.

The did play well, at home no less lol. I hope Madison was not hurt too badly, that bomb to Moss definitely showed how much they need him on the field.
 
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