GIGABYTE GA-K8NF-9 experiences

Rand

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I was replying to someone elses post with my experiences with the board, but since I'm writing up a decent amount I may as well put it in it's own thread for those interested in the board.

I've actually been quite pleasantly surprised with the board, I really wan't expecting much more then a mediocre stopgap solution until decent nForce 4 Ultra solutions became available.
I've had no stability issues at all, and surprisingly enough it runs perfectly with 4GB of RAM at 2-2-10-2-2 at PC3200.
Performance should of course be sign identical to NF4 Ultra boards, as the 800MHz HTT limitation is pretty much a moot point, given that the performance difference is nonexistent. Being limited to 1.5Gb/s SATA is of course no limitation as even 15K RPM SCSI solutions aren't utilizing that kind of bandwidth let alone consumer SATA drives.

The BIOS options while not the best I've seen are certainly well above average. Extremely DIMM timing adjustment, that should be easily more then adequate for anyone.
CPU bus frequency can be adjusted in 1MHz increments up to 400MHz... though of course no board would ever have a prayer of actually hitting 400MHz bus but that's beside the point.
PCI/PCI-E buses are locked, and manually adjustable in 1MHz increments as well.
Clock multiplier is adjustable as one would expect. HTT multiplier is adjustable as well.
You have some limited ability to o/c the graphcs card core/mem clock, though frankly I'd just disable then and overclock the graphics card manually, as I'm not fond of motherboards bumping up the graphics card clockspeed by some indeterminate amount.
CPU voltage is adjustable from 1.1V to 1.75V, in .25V increments from 1.1V up to 1.55, and .5V increments thereafter which should be perfectly adequate unless your venturing into extreme cooling.
PCI-E bus voltage can be adjusted up to + 0.3V, HTT link voltage is also adjustable up to + 0.3V as well.
DDR voltage is adjustable up to + 0.2V... not as high as some extreme memory modules might like, but decent.
All considered the BIOS flexibility is quite good, and he board is completely stable even at very strenuous RAM timings with all banks filled. It performs as one would expect, I've had no performance issues with it.

The current BIOS does seem to have an intermittant issue with PS/2 keyboards not detecting properly, which I've seen mentioned on a few forums. Not as issue for me, as I use a USB keyboard but worth keeping in mind if your using a legacy PS/2 keyboard until a BIOS update fixes it.

The board overclockes extremely well, better then some high end NF3 boards would overclock.
I've had the board up to 286MHz HTT stable, I've yet to test it beyond that but even if that's the absolute limit which I'm inclined to doubt it should provide more then adequate room to heavily overclock any S939 A64.

The boards feature set is merely passable, but decent for it's intended market segment.
2X UDMA 133 ports/4X SATA ports. 3X IEEE 1394b ports, and up to 10 USB 2.0 ports. 1 CICADA8201 Gigabit Ethernet port. 3X PCI, 2X PCI-E 1X, and 1X PCI-E 16X ports. The onboard audio is pretty much average, using the Realtek ALC850 codec.
4 USB 2.0 ports provided on the backpanel, with an adapter provided to plug in to utilize more. You'll need to purchase a connector to utilize the IEEE 1394b ports however.
24pin PSU connector, but the board works fine with only a 20pin PSU as well.

How one prefers a motherboard to be laid out, is bound to differ from person to person but I'm not terrible enthusiastic about the motherboard layout myself.
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You can examine the layout on Gigabyte's site, so I won't comment to much on it here.
I do like the locations of the ATX +12V connector at the upper left corner just behind the backpanel PS/2 keyboard/mouse connector.
I've never been pleased with boards that position the main 24pin ATX connector right beside the FDD connector on the left side of the board as this one does though.
With some rather large capacitors right around the CPU socket, the board may not cope well with some overly large OEM HeatSinks, though you should have sufficient clearance for most.
The single system fan connector is located at the bottom right corner of the board, not my ideal location as I'd prefer it above the first PCI-E slot towards the middle of the board but others may feel differently.

The SATA/PATA ports are all placed exactly where I'd like them, no qualms there.
The extra USB connectors are all placed nicely, as are the IEEE 1394 connectors.
The clear CMS jumper is located beside the SATA connectors.
The case front panel connections are all clearly identified on the motherboard.
A longer PCI-E X16 graphics card will hang over the HSF covering the NF4 chipset without much clearance at all, so you'll be hard pressed to get a better HSF on it.
Thankfully the HSF used is decent, it seems to cool adequately and isn't particularly obtrusive at all with the case closed.

The HTT ratio set at 2X may not be well optimized for overclocking yet, as I'm only able to hit 280MHz bus with the HTT multiplier at 2X, whereas I've tested up to 3X at 286MHz bus.
The supposed limitation of 800MHz HTT doesn't seem to hurt much, without bumping up the HTT link voltag at all I can use the 4X multiplier up to a 254MHz bus speed which equates to 1016MHz HTT bus.
With the HTT Link voltage set to + .3V, I can use the 4X multipler up to 268MHz bus... a 1072MHz HTT bus speed, well in excess of the A2 revision NF4 chipset, and above that of the A3 revision used on NF4 Ultra/SLI boards.

Given the price point the board is selling at and the relatively limited alternatives I'm am quite pleased with it, and it seems like it should be a very solid option for those that don't mind the average feature set.
 

gsparesa

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:beer:

Did you install the Unibrain driver for the IEEE-1394b? What do you think you will be doing with the IEEE-1394b? I read the manual and it states if you want to hook-up a DV camcorder or WEB camera that you have to switch to the Microsoft IEEE-1394 driver from the Unibrain driver. I just don?t know what use the IEEE-1394b would be for me. I?m presently using USB2 for back-ups but will be switching to SATA for backups when I build my new machine.
 

Rand

Lifer
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Originally posted by: gsparesa
:beer:

Did you install the Unibrain driver for the IEEE-1394b? What do you think you will be doing with the IEEE-1394b? I read the manual and it states if you want to hook-up a DV camcorder or WEB camera that you have to switch to the Microsoft IEEE-1394 driver from the Unibrain driver. I just don?t know what use the IEEE-1394b would be for me. I?m presently using USB2 for back-ups but will be switching to SATA for backups when I build my new machine.


I've not installed the IEEE 1394b drivers, as I've no devices that use said interface. I've got IEEE-1384b disabled in the BIOS.

Which driver you should use, depends upon the IEEE 1394 devices your connecting.
 

gsparesa

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Have you had a chance to use the SPDIF In/Out connections. I would like to know if the SPDIF In is operational.
 

Rand

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I'll have top get back to you on that tomorrow morning, I've not tested it myself but I will.
 
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I have this motherboard sitting on my desk at home waiting for the rest of my parts. (Had for almost a week!). I'll be pleased to answer questions about it when I get it up and running.

For those interested, set-up will be:
AMD 64 3000+ s939
1 GB Samsung DDR (2 sticks)
80gb Seagate Sata
Gigabyte 6600GT PCI-e
Audigy 2
Raidmax Cobra Case
Benq 52x CDRW
etc.

-hch
 

gsparesa

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Originally posted by: HighCalibreHooch
I have this motherboard sitting on my desk at home waiting for the rest of my parts. (Had for almost a week!). I'll be pleased to answer questions about it when I get it up and running.

For those interested, set-up will be:
AMD 64 3000+ s939
1 GB Samsung DDR (2 sticks)
80gb Seagate Sata
Gigabyte 6600GT PCI-e
Audigy 2
Raidmax Cobra Case
Benq 52x CDRW
etc.

-hch


Great, now we can get data from more sources, thanks. I don't have the GA-K8NF-9 but it's on my short list. I'll build my new computer with one of these boards.

1 - DFI Lanparty UT nF4 Ultra-D
2 - MSI K8N Neo-4 Platinum
3 - Gigabyte GA-K8NF-9
4 - Abit Fatal1ty AN8
 

Rand

Lifer
Oct 11, 1999
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Originally posted by: HighCalibreHooch
I have this motherboard sitting on my desk at home waiting for the rest of my parts. (Had for almost a week!). I'll be pleased to answer questions about it when I get it up and running.

For those interested, set-up will be:
AMD 64 3000+ s939
1 GB Samsung DDR (2 sticks)
80gb Seagate Sata
Gigabyte 6600GT PCI-e
Audigy 2
Raidmax Cobra Case
Benq 52x CDRW
etc.

-hch

A very similar system to my own. Same graphics, and sound card, same motherboard, and the processor is pretty close... I'm using a 3200+ rather then 3000+.
 

Rand

Lifer
Oct 11, 1999
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Originally posted by: gsparesa
Have you had a chance to use the SPDIF In/Out connections. I would like to know if the SPDIF In is operational.

I teste in today, the SPDIF In/Out appears to work perfectly. No problems at all, quality is decent.
 

gsparesa

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Originally posted by: Rand
Originally posted by: gsparesa
Have you had a chance to use the SPDIF In/Out connections. I would like to know if the SPDIF In is operational.

I teste in today, the SPDIF In/Out appears to work perfectly. No problems at all, quality is decent.

COOL!
 

Angry Kid

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Well, here's my experience. It ain't pretty. My "system" (in quotes, because it's still sitting collecting dust) specs:
- RADEON X800 XT 256MB
- AMD 3500+ 939 90nm
- 2GB (4x512) Crucial Ballistix PC-3200
- WD 74GB Raptor
- Antec Neopower 480W
- NEC ND-3500A DVD
- Zalman CNPS7000A
. . . plus other odds and sods.

I plug everything in, load XP, boots up fine. Everything is running smoothly -- until I try to play Call of Duty or Battlefield 1942. On average, about 3 minutes after I load either game (sometimes immediately after the respective splash-screens), the video freezes. I can't ctl-alt-del out of it. I can hear the game sounds in the background and TeamSpeak still works fine.

Video card/driver? I swap out the 800 XT for an nVidia 6600. Same thing happens.

RAM? I try 1, 2 and 4 sticks. Same thing. I swap out the Crucial for Patriot sticks in my other PC. Try 1, 2 and all 4. Same thing.

Power supply? I swap out the Neopower and install the Chieftech 420W from my other PC. Same.

THIS is where the nightmare begins. The on-line vendor (AllStarShop) tells me to go pound sand - no refunds/no replacements - and call Gigabyte directly. Read the small print, kids.

If you've ever had to deal with Gigabyte's customer service and/or technical support, you know how that story is going. For those of you who have never had the "pleasure", let me just say I hope there is a special place in the 7th level of Hell just for them.

I finally convinced them to grant me the privilege of RMAing the mobo.

I have a feeling this isn't over yet . . . .
 

foxxxer

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Sorry if I sound like an idiot, but this is my first time building a box from scratch. I'm using an AMD 64 3500+ w/ the K8NF-9 nForce4x board. Do I have to do anything to explicitly set the clock speed in the BIOS, or does it automatically do this? I'm confused as to what 'CPU Frequency' and 'K8 CPU Clock Ratio' options do.

Thanks
Matt
 

gsparesa

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Originally posted by: Angry Kid
Well, here's my experience. It ain't pretty. My "system" (in quotes, because it's still sitting collecting dust) specs:
- RADEON X800 XT 256MB
- AMD 3500+ 939 90nm
- 2GB (4x512) Crucial Ballistix PC-3200
- WD 74GB Raptor
- Antec Neopower 480W
- NEC ND-3500A DVD
- Zalman CNPS7000A
. . . plus other odds and sods.

I plug everything in, load XP, boots up fine. Everything is running smoothly -- until I try to play Call of Duty or Battlefield 1942. On average, about 3 minutes after I load either game (sometimes immediately after the respective splash-screens), the video freezes. I can't ctl-alt-del out of it. I can hear the game sounds in the background and TeamSpeak still works fine.

Video card/driver? I swap out the 800 XT for an nVidia 6600. Same thing happens.

RAM? I try 1, 2 and 4 sticks. Same thing. I swap out the Crucial for Patriot sticks in my other PC. Try 1, 2 and all 4. Same thing.

Power supply? I swap out the Neopower and install the Chieftech 420W from my other PC. Same.

THIS is where the nightmare begins. The on-line vendor (AllStarShop) tells me to go pound sand - no refunds/no replacements - and call Gigabyte directly. Read the small print, kids.

If you've ever had to deal with Gigabyte's customer service and/or technical support, you know how that story is going. For those of you who have never had the "pleasure", let me just say I hope there is a special place in the 7th level of Hell just for them.

I finally convinced them to grant me the privilege of RMAing the mobo.

I have a feeling this isn't over yet . . . .


While I'm waiting for my MoBo to arrive I had a chance to review the manual I downloaded. There is a Robust Graphics Booster selection in the MB Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.) of the BIOS. The selected settings are Auto, Fast and Turbo. I don't know if the released BIOS's have this option. Have you tried playing with these stettings?

 

gsparesa

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Originally posted by: foxxxer
Sorry if I sound like an idiot, but this is my first time building a box from scratch. I'm using an AMD 64 3500+ w/ the K8NF-9 nForce4x board. Do I have to do anything to explicitly set the clock speed in the BIOS, or does it automatically do this? I'm confused as to what 'CPU Frequency' and 'K8 CPU Clock Ratio' options do.

Thanks
Matt

I'm waiting for my MoBo to arrive. Most MoBo's it's automatically done if the BIOS is capable and you also have the option to change it. I don't think this one is any different. but here is the data for your CPU:
Athlon 64 3500+
2.2 GHz
multipler = 11X
buss speed = 200 MHz
core voltage = 1.4V (90 nm)
core voltage = 1.5 ? 1.55 (130 nm)


 

Rand

Lifer
Oct 11, 1999
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Originally posted by: Angry Kid
If you've ever had to deal with Gigabyte's customer service and/or technical support, you know how that story is going. For those of you who have never had the "pleasure", let me just say I hope there is a special place in the 7th level of Hell just for them.

I finally convinced them to grant me the privilege of RMAing the mobo.


I don't really mind Gigabyte's tech support personally, at least compared to the other 1st tier motherboard manufacturers.
Asus is probably the worst tech support I've ever dealt with, they may as well not provide any support/warranty for their motherboards for all the difference it'd make.
Sadly, for the most part it seems the better the manufacturer the worse the service...
 

Rand

Lifer
Oct 11, 1999
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Originally posted by: foxxxer
Sorry if I sound like an idiot, but this is my first time building a box from scratch. I'm using an AMD 64 3500+ w/ the K8NF-9 nForce4x board. Do I have to do anything to explicitly set the clock speed in the BIOS, or does it automatically do this? I'm confused as to what 'CPU Frequency' and 'K8 CPU Clock Ratio' options do.

Thanks
Matt

It should automatically detect, and set the proper settings for the processor in question. If your not overclocking, just leave them alone.
 

Rand

Lifer
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Originally posted by: gsparesa

While I'm waiting for my MoBo to arrive I had a chance to review the manual I downloaded. There is a Robust Graphics Booster selection in the MB Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.) of the BIOS. The selected settings are Auto, Fast and Turbo. I don't know if the released BIOS's have this option. Have you tried playing with these stettings?

Personally I'd just set it to auto, which effectively means disabled.
All it does is slightly overclock the core/mem clockspeed of your graphics card.... if your interested in overclocking your graphics card your better off doing it manually then letting the BIOS bump the clockspeeds by some indeterminate amount.
 

Angry Kid

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^^^^ What Rand said.

I wasn't to the point yet where I was going to tweak anything. I just wanted to get the %!@$%!@!!! thing to work. =(

Everything in BIOS (I tried both F1 &F2 versions) was set to the default. I even tried running both graphics boards I tried at the lowest in-game graphics settings (8x6), no AA/AF, no nothing.

BAH! BAH x2!!

Maybe by spring, someone, SOMEWHERE will have a non-SLI AMD/PCI-e board . . . >=(
 

peroxide

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Help My gigabyte ga-k8nf board won't overclock. Anytime i increase the fsb past 201 Mhz, it says over cpu clock frequency and it hangs.

I have an athlon 3000+ winchester
geil 2x512 mb memory
 

gsparesa

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Originally posted by: Angry Kid
^^^^ What Rand said.

I wasn't to the point yet where I was going to tweak anything. I just wanted to get the %!@$%!@!!! thing to work. =(

Everything in BIOS (I tried both F1 &F2 versions) was set to the default. I even tried running both graphics boards I tried at the lowest in-game graphics settings (8x6), no AA/AF, no nothing.

BAH! BAH x2!!

Maybe by spring, someone, SOMEWHERE will have a non-SLI AMD/PCI-e board . . . >=(


I don't understand. I assumed it was operational because you said,
" I plug everything in, load XP, boots up fine. Everything is running smoothly -- until I try to play Call of Duty or Battlefield 1942. On average, about 3 minutes after I load either game (sometimes immediately after the respective splash-screens), the video freezes."
The 3 minutes thing is what I found interesting with the C of D and Battlefield. I was thinking it might have been a timing issue with an aggressive setting in the BIOS. Are both of these games DirectX dependant? How did your DirectX installation go?
 
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