give me a reason

[lordtyranus]

I am voting for Bush because:

A: He's not ultra liberal.
B. He gives me and my family a tax cut.
C. I am Indian, and Kerry's outsourcing policies hurt us.
D. Bush has promised to try and defend marraige.
E. Bush will stop partial birth abortions.
F. Education has substantially improved in the area where I live in the past 4 years. The average SAT score has gone from 1020 to a 1210.

I'll come up with more reasons later on.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: lordtyranus
I am voting for Bush because:

A: He's not ultra liberal.
B. He gives me and my family a tax cut.
C. I am Indian, and Kerry's outsourcing policies hurt us.
D. Bush has promised to try and defend marraige.
E. Bush will stop partial birth abortions.
F. Education has substantially improved in the area where I live in the past 4 years. The average SAT score has gone from 1020 to a 1210.

I'll come up with more reasons later on.

A: A thoughtless reason
B: A selfish reason.
C: An incorrect reason.
D: A bigoted reason.
E: A fringe issue reason.
F: An isolated reason.

Wow, nice ones.

 

[lordtyranus]

Nice post. Want a

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Nice post. Want a

Yummy, Neocon Nuggat!

 

[bamacre]

If I vote for Bush, it's only because Kerry is a horrible candidate.
If I vote for Kerry, it's only because Bush is a horrible candidate.

The truth is, if either one of these guys was anything CLOSE, to resembling, a good candidate, he'd be slaughtering the other guy in every poll.

This is yet another sad election year for Americans.

 

[scoughlin1]

Originally posted by: bamacre
If I vote for Bush, it's only because Kerry is a horrible candidate.
If I vote for Kerry, it's only because Bush is a horrible candidate.

The truth is, if either one of these guys was anything CLOSE, to resembling, a good candidate, he'd be slaughtering the other guy in every poll.

This is yet another sad election year for Americans.

Indeed it is a sad year, atleast in '08 we'll have some better candidates such as Giuliani or McCain. Now those are some republicans I could actually vote for. I'd love to see Hillary run, she'd get absolutely destroyed. I consider myself to be leaning to the left, but I'd vote for many, many republicans before I'd vote for her.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: oldman420
if it is possible i would like to give the bush supporters a chance to present there side of the debate in a safe "non flaming" spot here at AT.
please if you plan on voting for bush tell us why and please no flames folks lets let the bush supporters have there say here

I'm voting third party, but if I wasn't, i'd probably vote Bush. Reasons?

I disagree with more of these than I do of these.

That being said, I actually disagree with a LOT of the issues they both support (which isn't that big of a surprise, as they are not exactly polar opposites), which is why I am voting Libertarian. Big government sucks. Power to the people.. and stuff.

If you want some more detail, I'll give it. I don't particularly feel like defending my decisions and feeling on these topics, so I'll just state them. These are the issues where I agree with Bush's policies moreso than Kerry's:


Affirmative Action - It has its place at one time, but that time is ending soon.
Hate Crime Legislation - All crime is hate crime, I see no need to differentiate.
National Missile Defense - Sounds good to me. (I have a job-security stake in this fight, however)
Drilling in ANWR - Why not?
Nationalized Health Care - I oppose big government.
Abortion - There better be a damn good reason to kill an unborn child.
Death Penalty - Play by the rules or take a hike.
Gun Control - Logic of Second Amendment appeals to me.
Social Security - Privatize some of it.

 

[Hecubus2000]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: oldman420
if it is possible i would like to give the bush supporters a chance to present there side of the debate in a safe "non flaming" spot here at AT.
please if you plan on voting for bush tell us why and please no flames folks lets let the bush supporters have there say here

I'm voting third party, but if I wasn't, i'd probably vote Bush. Reasons?

I disagree with more of these than I do of these.

That being said, I actually disagree with a LOT of the issues they both support (which isn't that big of a surprise, as they are not exactly polar opposites), which is why I am voting Libertarian. Big government sucks. Power to the people.. and stuff.

If you want some more detail, I'll give it. I don't particularly feel like defending my decisions and feeling on these topics, so I'll just state them. These are the issues where I agree with Bush's policies moreso than Kerry's:


Affirmative Action - It has its place at one time, but that time is ending soon.
Hate Crime Legislation - All crime is hate crime, I see no need to differentiate.
National Missile Defense - Sounds good to me. (I have a job-security stake in this fight, however)
Drilling in ANWR - Why not?
Nationalized Health Care - I oppose big government.
Abortion - There better be a damn good reason to kill an unborn child.
Death Penalty - Play by the rules or take a hike.
Gun Control - Logic of Second Amendment appeals to me.
Social Security - Privatize some of it.

Great post. I totally agree with most of your views. I was planning on voting Libertarian this year, but Badnarik just did not have enough to pull my vote away from Bush. Maybe in 2008.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Hecubus2000

Great post. I totally agree with most of your views. I was planning on voting Libertarian this year, but Badnarik just did not have enough to pull my vote away from Bush. Maybe in 2008.

:thumbsup: I'm in Texas, so I don't have to worry much about Kerry taking our electorates.

 

[DZip]

I checked vote.com and found out Mr. Kerry's voting record is very bad. If he is failing to do what he was elected to do now, why should I believe he will start doing his job if elected president? I will cast my vote to the person that does what they say. John Kerry changes what he say's depending on the crowd he is addressing. George Bush says the same thing at all his appearances. He is consistent, if he is wrong, at least he is consistent.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: DZip
I checked vote.com and found out Mr. Kerry's voting record is very bad. If he is failing to do what he was elected to do now, why should I believe he will start doing his job if elected president? I will cast my vote to the person that does what they say. John Kerry changes what he say's depending on the crowd he is addressing. George Bush says the same thing at all his appearances. He is consistent, if he is wrong, at least he is consistent.

Wow...baaa baaa baaa


Let's say you're driving down the road in the right-lane. You see brake lights and smoke up ahead. Do you swerve into the left-lane and continue on your journey or slam into the pile from behind because you "stayed the course" and "stayed consistent"?

 

[maddogchen]

Because he is not John Kerry

inspired by the countless "because he's not Bush" reasons going around. (offline).

 

[lordtyranus]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: DZip
I checked vote.com and found out Mr. Kerry's voting record is very bad. If he is failing to do what he was elected to do now, why should I believe he will start doing his job if elected president? I will cast my vote to the person that does what they say. John Kerry changes what he say's depending on the crowd he is addressing. George Bush says the same thing at all his appearances. He is consistent, if he is wrong, at least he is consistent.

Wow...baaa baaa baaa


Let's say you're driving down the road in the right-lane. You see brake lights and smoke up ahead. Do you swerve into the left-lane and continue on your journey or slam into the pile from behind because you "stayed the course" and "stayed consistent"?

Slight problem there. Kerry doesn't vote at all a good deal of the time. Where does that go in your car analogy?

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: conjur
Wow...baaa baaa baaa

Let's say you're driving down the road in the right-lane. You see brake lights and smoke up ahead. Do you swerve into the left-lane and continue on your journey or slam into the pile from behind because you "stayed the course" and "stayed consistent"?

:roll: Wow, you can make a silly, specious 'argument.' I bet I can do the same:

Let's say you're driving down the road in the left-lane. You see more people in the right lane, so you swerve into that lane. Moments later, you decide to change lanes again. You continue on your way for a bit, until your passenger mentions that he counted more cars back in the other lane, so you again swerve to change lanes. Cars start honking at you and flipping you off, but you just stick your head out of the window and yell, "I was here all along" while pointing to the dozen "I'm a Vietnam Vet, dammit!" bumper stickers plastered all over you car. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

How did that go? Baaa baaa baaa, was it?

 

[sMiLeYz]

Best reason to vote for Bush is if you want to fvck America and everything it stands for over.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: DZip
I checked vote.com and found out Mr. Kerry's voting record is very bad. If he is failing to do what he was elected to do now, why should I believe he will start doing his job if elected president? I will cast my vote to the person that does what they say. John Kerry changes what he say's depending on the crowd he is addressing. George Bush says the same thing at all his appearances. He is consistent, if he is wrong, at least he is consistent.

Wow...baaa baaa baaa


Let's say you're driving down the road in the right-lane. You see brake lights and smoke up ahead. Do you swerve into the left-lane and continue on your journey or slam into the pile from behind because you "stayed the course" and "stayed consistent"?

Not one of your better posts, Conjur. Pretty bad, actually. Very bad.

 

[Falloutboy]

well I'm guess AT is full of democrats I must be a minority

 

[1EZduzit]

Because, uh......I'm thinking, uhm.....well, let me get back to you on that.

 

[Rob9874]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger


Affirmative Action - It has its place at one time, but that time is ending soon.
Hate Crime Legislation - All crime is hate crime, I see no need to differentiate.
National Missile Defense - Sounds good to me. (I have a job-security stake in this fight, however)
Drilling in ANWR - Why not?
Nationalized Health Care - I oppose big government.
Abortion - There better be a damn good reason to kill an unborn child.
Death Penalty - Play by the rules or take a hike.
Gun Control - Logic of Second Amendment appeals to me.
Social Security - Privatize some of it.

I like all of these. Every single one.

 

[catnap1972]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: DZip
I checked vote.com and found out Mr. Kerry's voting record is very bad. If he is failing to do what he was elected to do now, why should I believe he will start doing his job if elected president? I will cast my vote to the person that does what they say. John Kerry changes what he say's depending on the crowd he is addressing. George Bush says the same thing at all his appearances. He is consistent, if he is wrong, at least he is consistent.

Wow...baaa baaa baaa


Let's say you're driving down the road in the right-lane. You see brake lights and smoke up ahead. Do you swerve into the left-lane and continue on your journey or slam into the pile from behind because you "stayed the course" and "stayed consistent"?

Not one of your better posts, Conjur. Pretty bad, actually. Very bad.

What was so bad about it? The image that sticks with me about much of "the right" is of lemmings. They'll jump off a cliff to a certain death if their leader was signalling them on (and even if they're actually told that following orders will result in their demise).

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: cougarls88

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: DZip
I checked vote.com and found out Mr. Kerry's voting record is very bad. If he is failing to do what he was elected to do now, why should I believe he will start doing his job if elected president? I will cast my vote to the person that does what they say. John Kerry changes what he say's depending on the crowd he is addressing. George Bush says the same thing at all his appearances. He is consistent, if he is wrong, at least he is consistent.

Wow...baaa baaa baaa


Let's say you're driving down the road in the right-lane. You see brake lights and smoke up ahead. Do you swerve into the left-lane and continue on your journey or slam into the pile from behind because you "stayed the course" and "stayed consistent"?

Not one of your better posts, Conjur. Pretty bad, actually. Very bad.

What was so bad about it? The image that sticks with me about much of "the right" is of lemmings. They'll jump off a cliff to a certain death if their leader was signalling them on (and even if they're actually told that following orders will result in their demise).

Exactly why I posted it. Following a course no matter how dire the consequences is about as ignorant as anyone could possibly get.

 

[Cogman]

yes, I love how in the lib thread someone flames and you guys begin to throw the book at them but here you can keep your traps shut.

Im voting for bush because.

1. I believe he is an honest man and that he will do what he thinks is right, I do not feal the same way about kerry.

2. Bigoted or not, I believe that marrage is betwean a man and a woman, End of story.

3. I believe that the economy has improved, Unemployment has gone down, and we have had a very remarkable recovery from a depression. (Not bushs fault btw, I think Sep. 11 had a lot to do with with the fall in the economy)

4. I believe that tax cuts, even if soley for the rich, do improve the economy because it gives employers more money to spend on employees.

5. I believe that the 9/11 report was correct in saying that he has significatly cut the funding to terrorist networks through the war on terror.

6. Kerry has no backbone and has no standings, I dont know what he truly believes in because he is constantly changing it to raise his political standing.

7. The attacks agenst bush are pretty weak and seam to hold no ground or standings, But an attack on kerry sticks firmly (as evidence to the time it takes before an attack on kerry is forgoten).

8. Kerry is very liberal, and I really dont like the liberal policies.

9. bush is conservitive, and I like the conservitives policies.

10. Kerry mostly attacks bush on past issues, while bush attacks kerry mostly on current issues.

So go ahead, post your "well your just a stupid bigoted conservitive" post, I know its comming but frankly I dont care.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: Hecubus2000

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: Hecubus2000
Jobs for the 21st Century Initiative: President Bush will provide $500 million for Jobs for the 21st Century, which will help educate and train high-skilled American workers in schools and community colleges.

Homeownership: President Bush will provide assistance to help America to meet his new goal of creating 7 million new, affordable homes in 10 years.

Tax Reform: President Bush will work to make the tax code simpler for taxpayers, encourage saving and investment, and improve the economy?s ability to create jobs and raise wages.

Welfare Reform: President Bush will continue to press for reauthorization of welfare reform and to build on its successes, strengthening families and helping more welfare recipients achieve independence through work.

Opportunity Zones: President Bush will create new Opportunity Zones, which will encourage public and private investment and provide priority consideration for Federal benefits to communities that are under economic hardship.

Increase Minority Outreach: Increase outreach efforts to minority families to better disseminate effective early childhood development strategies.

Strengthen Head Start: Focus Head Start more clearly on school readiness, and allow states to integrate Head Start programs into their existing pre-school preparedness efforts in order to make better use of combined Federal and state resources. The President will give priority consideration for funding to states that have a coordinated early childhood plan involving Head Start, pre-K, and child care services.

Established new, tax-free Health Savings Accounts (HSA) which allow Americans to own and control their own health care.

Implemented a new rule to lower drug costs for millions of Americans by strengthening competition between generic and brand-name drugs, saving American consumers more than $35 billion in drug costs over the next ten years.

Clear Skies Initiative: President Bush will work to secure passage of the Clear Skies Initiative to reduce power plant emissions of sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxides, and mercury by 70 percent and help the states meet tougher new air quality standards.

Farm Bill Conservation Programs: President Bush will aggressively implement programs that will dedicate a record $40 billion over a decade to restore millions of acres of wetlands, protect habitats, conserve water, and improve streams and rivers near working farms and ranches. This commitment will include early re-enrollment and contract extensions for the Conservation Reserve Program and expansion of quail and wetlands habitat.

Encourage Use of Efficient Technologies: President Bush will provide incentives for deployment of efficient technologies for storage and transmission of energy, further contributing to the reliability of our electric grid.

Promote Conservation and Support Energy Technologies: The President?s plan will provide $4 billion in tax incentives to spur the use of energy technologies.

I'd like to see how many of those items are the same as the ones from 4 years ago. Cut and paste is Bush's friend, I think.

What is your point? Some of them are the same.

I would think the point is, is that he has had 4 years to pull his head out of his ass and do some domestic good and he has not. Why would you expect the next for years to be any different? You have just defined insanity for us all. Expecting different results? Bah.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Rob9874

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger


Affirmative Action - It has its place at one time, but that time is ending soon.

It needs to be fine tuned, not elimenated

Hate Crime Legislation - All crime is hate crime, I see no need to differentiate.

Then why oppose it? What harm will it do?

National Missile Defense - Sounds good to me. (I have a job-security stake in this fight, however)

Too expensive and not needed.

Drilling in ANWR - Why not?

I guess as long as it last for my lifetime, screw all those unborn kids, right!!

Nationalized Health Care - I oppose big government.

I'd bet you have health insurance, huh

Abortion - There better be a damn good reason to kill an unborn child.

I agree about the reason, but I wouldn't force anyone to have an unwanted child, as long as they make there mind up in a reasonable amount of time. For some reason this seems to be an everything or nothing issue to people??

Death Penalty - Play by the rules or take a hike.

I won't argue that one.

Gun Control - Logic of Second Amendment appeals to me.

I won't argue this one either.


Social Security - Privatize some of it.

Yeah, lets put Enron and Ken Lay in charge of it. NOT!!

I like all of these. Every single one.

 

[Cogman]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: cougarls88

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: DZip
I checked vote.com and found out Mr. Kerry's voting record is very bad. If he is failing to do what he was elected to do now, why should I believe he will start doing his job if elected president? I will cast my vote to the person that does what they say. John Kerry changes what he say's depending on the crowd he is addressing. George Bush says the same thing at all his appearances. He is consistent, if he is wrong, at least he is consistent.

Wow...baaa baaa baaa


Let's say you're driving down the road in the right-lane. You see brake lights and smoke up ahead. Do you swerve into the left-lane and continue on your journey or slam into the pile from behind because you "stayed the course" and "stayed consistent"?

Not one of your better posts, Conjur. Pretty bad, actually. Very bad.

What was so bad about it? The image that sticks with me about much of "the right" is of lemmings. They'll jump off a cliff to a certain death if their leader was signalling them on (and even if they're actually told that following orders will result in their demise).

Exactly why I posted it. Following a course no matter how dire the consequences is about as ignorant as anyone could possibly get.

Yeah, if we are driving. But how about supporting something (like war for instance), then pulling support, then adding the support again?

Given your example, Kerry sees the car, Swires to miss it, then swires back in because he does not think it will hit him, then swirves out again because he changes his mind. Sure he could avoid a few collisions, but one of these times he's going to swirve into another car in the other lane, or back into the one in the first lane.