Good CompSci Universities?

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: wviperw
What do you guys think are some of the better schools in the US for CompSci/SoftE (undergrad)? I live in Iowa, so I *could* go to ISU, but was kind of hoping to get out of state...

So far I know about:

Midwest
U of Wisconsin:Madison
U of Illinois: Urbana Champaign
Illinois Institution of Tech (IIT)

Other
Berkley
MIT
U of Washington

Now schools like MIT/CalTech are of course well known, prestigious schools, but will they do me any better in the area of CompSci than, say, UW:Madison? Or will they just hurt the pocket book a lot more?

Of those I listed, how would you classify them? Or let me know of other good colleges. Also, if you go to one of the above for CompSci, let me know what its been like/experiences.

thoughts...

IIT doesn't really belong in that list (the *other* IIT does definitely, but its in india )

i'm a senior in compsci at UW (university of washington... number 7 in the nation )... yea new building, good dept... MS, Google, Intel recruit heavily from our ranks

other schools that you didn't mention... carnegie mellon, stanford, UT austin those are just the ones that come to mind.

if you are just in hs looking at colleges, don't go solely for their CS program, because theres a decent chance you will change your major somewhere along the way. a lot of people go into college thinking they want to do CS but end up hating it.

in terms of how i would classify them, stanford, cmu, and mit are clearly above the rest... then to me i view UT austin, UW, and UICU to be on equitable footing... berkeley, cornell, and princeton are to me schools that i know have a good rep, but i've just not heard or seen their names as much (probably smaller depts i'm guessing).

 

[KingNothing]

University of Nebraska at Omaha, Peter Kiewit Institute. Seriously. The CS program here kicks much ass. The dean is awesome, I asked him to schedule a certain teacher for a class in the fall and he pushed it through! Great teachers too, one of them hooked me up with an internship at Sandia National Laboratories this summer.

 

[Supermercado]

Originally posted by: KingNothing
University of Nebraska at Omaha, Peter Kiewit Institute. Seriously. The CS program here kicks much ass. The dean is awesome, I asked him to schedule a certain teacher for a class in the fall and he pushed it through! Great teachers too, one of them hooked me up with an internship at Sandia National Laboratories this summer.

I've heard that UNO is a good CS program. Kids at my high school used to call it Univ. of No Opportunity but if I still lived in Bellevue, chances are I'd have gone to UNO over UNL.

 

[wviperw]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: wviperw
What do you guys think are some of the better schools in the US for CompSci/SoftE (undergrad)? I live in Iowa, so I *could* go to ISU, but was kind of hoping to get out of state...

So far I know about:

Midwest
U of Wisconsin:Madison
U of Illinois: Urbana Champaign
Illinois Institution of Tech (IIT)

Other
Berkley
MIT
U of Washington

Now schools like MIT/CalTech are of course well known, prestigious schools, but will they do me any better in the area of CompSci than, say, UW:Madison? Or will they just hurt the pocket book a lot more?

Of those I listed, how would you classify them? Or let me know of other good colleges. Also, if you go to one of the above for CompSci, let me know what its been like/experiences.

thoughts...

IIT doesn't really belong in that list (the *other* IIT does definitely, but its in india )

i'm a senior in compsci at UW... yea new building, good dept... MS, Google, Intel recruit heavily from our ranks

other schools that you didn't mention... carnegie mellon, stanford, UT austin those are just the ones that come to mind.

if you are just in hs looking at colleges, don't go solely for their CS program, because theres a decent chance you will change your major somewhere along the way. a lot of people go into college thinking they want to do CS but end up hating it.

in terms of how i would classify them, stanford, cmu, and mit are clearly above the rest... then to me i view UT austin, UW, and UICU to be on equitable footing... berkeley, cornell, and princeton are to me schools that i know have a good rep, but i've just not heard or seen their names as much (probably smaller depts i'm guessing).

Well, CMU/Stanford seem to be "semi-ivy league"-ish. I'm still not sure what to think of ivy league schools. Are they really going to give me a better education for 30k a year? Are the people there going to be all snotty and the teachers *only* focused on their research work? (okay, maybe that goes for berkeley, caltech, mit as well)

As far as basing my decision solely on CS, I'm already halfway through a CS program where I'm attending now, and am planning to transfer. So I know that I want to do something in CS (or SoftE). See this thread: http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=38&threadid=1263778

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: wviperw
What do you guys think are some of the better schools in the US for CompSci/SoftE (undergrad)? I live in Iowa, so I *could* go to ISU, but was kind of hoping to get out of state...

So far I know about:

Midwest
U of Wisconsin:Madison
U of Illinois: Urbana Champaign
Illinois Institution of Tech (IIT)

Other
Berkley
MIT
U of Washington

Now schools like MIT/CalTech are of course well known, prestigious schools, but will they do me any better in the area of CompSci than, say, UW:Madison? Or will they just hurt the pocket book a lot more?

Of those I listed, how would you classify them? Or let me know of other good colleges. Also, if you go to one of the above for CompSci, let me know what its been like/experiences.

I would classify their undergrads like this:

MIT
Berkeley
[big gap]
UIUC, U-Washington, U-Wisc.
[big gap]
IIT

Everyone here will pimp their own schools, so I hope you do your own research. I'll tell you my opinion. An undergrad at MIT blows away UIUC, UW, etc. There's absolutely no comparison between the undergrad reputations of these schools (I'm assuming we're talking about only undergrad reputations). It's ridiculous to compare them.

If all factors were the same, I'd go to the best overall ranked undergrad I could go to. Of course, all factors aren't the same - cost, location, etc.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: wviperw

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: wviperw
What do you guys think are some of the better schools in the US for CompSci/SoftE (undergrad)? I live in Iowa, so I *could* go to ISU, but was kind of hoping to get out of state...

So far I know about:

Midwest
U of Wisconsin:Madison
U of Illinois: Urbana Champaign
Illinois Institution of Tech (IIT)

Other
Berkley
MIT
U of Washington

Now schools like MIT/CalTech are of course well known, prestigious schools, but will they do me any better in the area of CompSci than, say, UW:Madison? Or will they just hurt the pocket book a lot more?

Of those I listed, how would you classify them? Or let me know of other good colleges. Also, if you go to one of the above for CompSci, let me know what its been like/experiences.

thoughts...

IIT doesn't really belong in that list (the *other* IIT does definitely, but its in india )

i'm a senior in compsci at UW... yea new building, good dept... MS, Google, Intel recruit heavily from our ranks

other schools that you didn't mention... carnegie mellon, stanford, UT austin those are just the ones that come to mind.

if you are just in hs looking at colleges, don't go solely for their CS program, because theres a decent chance you will change your major somewhere along the way. a lot of people go into college thinking they want to do CS but end up hating it.

in terms of how i would classify them, stanford, cmu, and mit are clearly above the rest... then to me i view UT austin, UW, and UICU to be on equitable footing... berkeley, cornell, and princeton are to me schools that i know have a good rep, but i've just not heard or seen their names as much (probably smaller depts i'm guessing).

Well, CMU/Stanford seem to be "semi-ivy league"-ish. I'm still not sure what to think of ivy league schools. Are they really going to give me a better education for 30k a year? Are the people there going to be all snotty and the teachers *only* focused on their research work? (okay, maybe that goes for berkeley, caltech, mit as well)

They COULD give you a better education. It's just a matter of what you do and various other factors. You could be better off than someone at Bubbaville State, on the same level, or worse off than them.

I wouldn't really consider CMU ivy-leagueish. I would consider Stanford on par with the Ivy League schools, since it's probably more selective than some of them. CMU is top-notch though. Should be in the top 20 for undergrad, but for some reason it's not.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: wviperw

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: wviperw
What do you guys think are some of the better schools in the US for CompSci/SoftE (undergrad)? I live in Iowa, so I *could* go to ISU, but was kind of hoping to get out of state...

So far I know about:

Midwest
U of Wisconsin:Madison
U of Illinois: Urbana Champaign
Illinois Institution of Tech (IIT)

Other
Berkley
MIT
U of Washington

Now schools like MIT/CalTech are of course well known, prestigious schools, but will they do me any better in the area of CompSci than, say, UW:Madison? Or will they just hurt the pocket book a lot more?

Of those I listed, how would you classify them? Or let me know of other good colleges. Also, if you go to one of the above for CompSci, let me know what its been like/experiences.

thoughts...

IIT doesn't really belong in that list (the *other* IIT does definitely, but its in india )

i'm a senior in compsci at UW... yea new building, good dept... MS, Google, Intel recruit heavily from our ranks

other schools that you didn't mention... carnegie mellon, stanford, UT austin those are just the ones that come to mind.

if you are just in hs looking at colleges, don't go solely for their CS program, because theres a decent chance you will change your major somewhere along the way. a lot of people go into college thinking they want to do CS but end up hating it.

in terms of how i would classify them, stanford, cmu, and mit are clearly above the rest... then to me i view UT austin, UW, and UICU to be on equitable footing... berkeley, cornell, and princeton are to me schools that i know have a good rep, but i've just not heard or seen their names as much (probably smaller depts i'm guessing).

Well, CMU/Stanford seem to be "semi-ivy league"-ish. I'm still not sure what to think of ivy league schools. Are they really going to give me a better education for 30k a year? Are the people there going to be all snotty and the teachers *only* focused on their research work? (okay, maybe that goes for berkeley, caltech, mit as well)

As far as basing my decision solely on CS, I'm already halfway through a CS program where I'm attending now, and am planning to transfer. So I know that I want to do something in CS (or SoftE). See this thread: http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=38&threadid=1263778

yea i can't say what the undergrad experience is like at that schools (never been to any...), but i can say that my undergrad at UW has been good... professors are approachable and whatnot

what i can say is that if you are planning on going to on to grad school, you should look at how their undergrad research programs are. there are a lot here, but i'm not sure how it is at other schools. i would *imagine* that the larger and better the grad programs, the more likely the undergrad research is also going to be good... simply because smaller schools have less resources for research and even if they do have research opportunities, the areas in which you can go will be more limited.

and fwiw, i don't feel its worth 30k a year, but a lot of the times you can get financial aid, and i dunno what your financial situation is.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: wviperw

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: wviperw
What do you guys think are some of the better schools in the US for CompSci/SoftE (undergrad)? I live in Iowa, so I *could* go to ISU, but was kind of hoping to get out of state...

So far I know about:

Midwest
U of Wisconsin:Madison
U of Illinois: Urbana Champaign
Illinois Institution of Tech (IIT)

Other
Berkley
MIT
U of Washington

Now schools like MIT/CalTech are of course well known, prestigious schools, but will they do me any better in the area of CompSci than, say, UW:Madison? Or will they just hurt the pocket book a lot more?

Of those I listed, how would you classify them? Or let me know of other good colleges. Also, if you go to one of the above for CompSci, let me know what its been like/experiences.

thoughts...

IIT doesn't really belong in that list (the *other* IIT does definitely, but its in india )

i'm a senior in compsci at UW... yea new building, good dept... MS, Google, Intel recruit heavily from our ranks

other schools that you didn't mention... carnegie mellon, stanford, UT austin those are just the ones that come to mind.

if you are just in hs looking at colleges, don't go solely for their CS program, because theres a decent chance you will change your major somewhere along the way. a lot of people go into college thinking they want to do CS but end up hating it.

in terms of how i would classify them, stanford, cmu, and mit are clearly above the rest... then to me i view UT austin, UW, and UICU to be on equitable footing... berkeley, cornell, and princeton are to me schools that i know have a good rep, but i've just not heard or seen their names as much (probably smaller depts i'm guessing).

Well, CMU/Stanford seem to be "semi-ivy league"-ish. I'm still not sure what to think of ivy league schools. Are they really going to give me a better education for 30k a year? Are the people there going to be all snotty and the teachers *only* focused on their research work? (okay, maybe that goes for berkeley, caltech, mit as well)

They COULD give you a better education. It's just a matter of what you do and various other factors. You could be better off than someone at Bubbaville State, on the same level, or worse off than them.

I wouldn't really consider CMU ivy-leagueish. I would consider Stanford on par with the Ivy League schools, since it's probably more selective than some of them. CMU is top-notch though. Should be in the top 20 for undergrad, but for some reason it's not.

yea for something to be ivy league, it has to have strong humanities... something CMU and MIT are not known for... stanford is more ivy-ish. for anythign technical cmu is really good though.

 

[KingNothing]

Originally posted by: SuperCommando

Originally posted by: KingNothing
University of Nebraska at Omaha, Peter Kiewit Institute. Seriously. The CS program here kicks much ass. The dean is awesome, I asked him to schedule a certain teacher for a class in the fall and he pushed it through! Great teachers too, one of them hooked me up with an internship at Sandia National Laboratories this summer.

I've heard that UNO is a good CS program. Kids at my high school used to call it Univ. of No Opportunity but if I still lived in Bellevue, chances are I'd have gone to UNO over UNL.

We call it that here too. But, hey, I'm going to Sandia this summer, can't argue with that. Plus, scholarships here are awesome. I have two full ride scholarships, which means I use one to pay for tuition and I get the cash value of the other. Making 3-4k a semester from scholarships alone is hard to argue with.

 

[ed21x]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: wviperw
What do you guys think are some of the better schools in the US for CompSci/SoftE (undergrad)? I live in Iowa, so I *could* go to ISU, but was kind of hoping to get out of state...

So far I know about:

Midwest
U of Wisconsin:Madison
U of Illinois: Urbana Champaign
Illinois Institution of Tech (IIT)

Other
Berkley
MIT
U of Washington

Now schools like MIT/CalTech are of course well known, prestigious schools, but will they do me any better in the area of CompSci than, say, UW:Madison? Or will they just hurt the pocket book a lot more?

Of those I listed, how would you classify them? Or let me know of other good colleges. Also, if you go to one of the above for CompSci, let me know what its been like/experiences.

thoughts...

IIT doesn't really belong in that list (the *other* IIT does definitely, but its in india )

i'm a senior in compsci at UW (university of washington... number 7 in the nation )... yea new building, good dept... MS, Google, Intel recruit heavily from our ranks

other schools that you didn't mention... carnegie mellon, stanford, UT austin those are just the ones that come to mind.

if you are just in hs looking at colleges, don't go solely for their CS program, because theres a decent chance you will change your major somewhere along the way. a lot of people go into college thinking they want to do CS but end up hating it.

in terms of how i would classify them, stanford, cmu, and mit are clearly above the rest... then to me i view UT austin, UW, and UICU to be on equitable footing... berkeley, cornell, and princeton are to me schools that i know have a good rep, but i've just not heard or seen their names as much (probably smaller depts i'm guessing).

EECS is the largest engineering major here at Berkeley, and is currently ranked 2nd, which is what our Engineering program is ranked nationwide. Every once in awhile, Stanford might switch off with us for the number 2 spot. Caltech, on the other hand hasn't been doing quite as well lately. But of course there are other factors also... research, how much you put into it, etc..

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: wviperw

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: wviperw
What do you guys think are some of the better schools in the US for CompSci/SoftE (undergrad)? I live in Iowa, so I *could* go to ISU, but was kind of hoping to get out of state...

So far I know about:

Midwest
U of Wisconsin:Madison
U of Illinois: Urbana Champaign
Illinois Institution of Tech (IIT)

Other
Berkley
MIT
U of Washington

Now schools like MIT/CalTech are of course well known, prestigious schools, but will they do me any better in the area of CompSci than, say, UW:Madison? Or will they just hurt the pocket book a lot more?

Of those I listed, how would you classify them? Or let me know of other good colleges. Also, if you go to one of the above for CompSci, let me know what its been like/experiences.

thoughts...

IIT doesn't really belong in that list (the *other* IIT does definitely, but its in india )

i'm a senior in compsci at UW... yea new building, good dept... MS, Google, Intel recruit heavily from our ranks

other schools that you didn't mention... carnegie mellon, stanford, UT austin those are just the ones that come to mind.

if you are just in hs looking at colleges, don't go solely for their CS program, because theres a decent chance you will change your major somewhere along the way. a lot of people go into college thinking they want to do CS but end up hating it.

in terms of how i would classify them, stanford, cmu, and mit are clearly above the rest... then to me i view UT austin, UW, and UICU to be on equitable footing... berkeley, cornell, and princeton are to me schools that i know have a good rep, but i've just not heard or seen their names as much (probably smaller depts i'm guessing).

Well, CMU/Stanford seem to be "semi-ivy league"-ish. I'm still not sure what to think of ivy league schools. Are they really going to give me a better education for 30k a year? Are the people there going to be all snotty and the teachers *only* focused on their research work? (okay, maybe that goes for berkeley, caltech, mit as well)

They COULD give you a better education. It's just a matter of what you do and various other factors. You could be better off than someone at Bubbaville State, on the same level, or worse off than them.

I wouldn't really consider CMU ivy-leagueish. I would consider Stanford on par with the Ivy League schools, since it's probably more selective than some of them. CMU is top-notch though. Should be in the top 20 for undergrad, but for some reason it's not.

yea for something to be ivy league, it has to have strong humanities... something CMU and MIT are not known for... stanford is more ivy-ish. for anythign technical cmu is really good though.

Well, I'm considering the overall reputation (since most people consider the ivy rep to be at the highest level). I would consider MIT, Caltech, etc. at the same level. CMU is a bit below that. Maybe it's at the level of the lower Ivys.

I think that someone that went to Havard for CS undergrad would be better off than someone that UIUC for CS undergrad (in a general sense). I'm just taking into account the overall rep of the school.

 

[gopunk]

Well, I'm considering the overall reputation (since most people consider the ivy rep to be at the highest level). I would consider MIT, Caltech, etc. at the same level. CMU is a bit below that. Maybe it's at the level of the lower Ivys.

I think that someone that went to Havard for CS undergrad would be better off than someone that UIUC for CS undergrad (in a general sense). I'm just taking into account the overall rep of the school.

eh well i guess agree to disagree on what ivy means... i think ivy has never primarily meant a school strong in computer science or engineering fields... when i think of ivy, i think of law and humanities. up until recently, harvard had a hell of a time attracting faculty (mainly cuz none of the CS faculty ever got tenure)... they're just starting to recover from decades of neglect.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Well, I'm considering the overall reputation (since most people consider the ivy rep to be at the highest level). I would consider MIT, Caltech, etc. at the same level. CMU is a bit below that. Maybe it's at the level of the lower Ivys.

I think that someone that went to Havard for CS undergrad would be better off than someone that UIUC for CS undergrad (in a general sense). I'm just taking into account the overall rep of the school.

eh well i guess agree to disagree on what ivy means... i think ivy has never primarily meant a school strong in computer science or engineering fields... when i think of ivy, i think of law and humanities. up until recently, harvard had a hell of a time attracting faculty (mainly cuz none of the CS faculty ever got tenure)... they're just starting to recover from decades of neglect.

Well, I'm not talking about the definition of Ivy (I agree with that general description)... I'm talking about the overall reputation Most of the Ivys are top-tier engineering or science schools, too. It's just that they have small departments. Some of them are pretty amazing given their small school & spending.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: gopunk

Well, I'm considering the overall reputation (since most people consider the ivy rep to be at the highest level). I would consider MIT, Caltech, etc. at the same level. CMU is a bit below that. Maybe it's at the level of the lower Ivys.

I think that someone that went to Havard for CS undergrad would be better off than someone that UIUC for CS undergrad (in a general sense). I'm just taking into account the overall rep of the school.

eh well i guess agree to disagree on what ivy means... i think ivy has never primarily meant a school strong in computer science or engineering fields... when i think of ivy, i think of law and humanities. up until recently, harvard had a hell of a time attracting faculty (mainly cuz none of the CS faculty ever got tenure)... they're just starting to recover from decades of neglect.

Well, I'm not talking about the definition of Ivy (I agree with that general description)... I'm talking about the overall reputation Most of the Ivys are top-tier engineering or science schools, too. It's just that they have small departments. Some of them are pretty amazing given their small school & spending.

i don't think we disagree on this topic then

 

[wviperw]

bump0rs

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Here's the ranking for graduate CS schools. When people ask about good CompSci schools, they usually mean graduate schools. Personally I would go to the best overall school (check the overall undergrad rankings) for undergrad if all factors were the same.

1. Carnegie Mellon University (PA) 4.9
Massachusetts Institute of Technology 4.9
Stanford University (CA) 4.9
University of California?Berkeley 4.9
5. University of Illinois?Urbana-Champaign 4.6
6. Cornell University (NY) 4.5
7. University of Texas?Austin 4.4
University of Washington 4.4
9. Princeton University (NJ) 4.3
10. California Institute of Technology 4.1
University of Wisconsin?Madison 4.1
12. Georgia Institute of Technology 4.0
University of Maryland?College Park 4.0
14. Brown University (RI) 3.9
University of California?Los Angeles 3.9
University of Michigan?Ann Arbor 3.9
17. Rice University (TX) 3.8
University of North Carolina?Chapel Hill 3.8
University of Pennsylvania 3.8
20. Columbia University (NY) 3.7
Duke University (NC) 3.7
Harvard University (MA) 3.7
Purdue University?West Lafayette (IN) 3.7
University of California?San Diego 3.7
25. University of Massachusetts?Amherst 3.6
Yale University (CT) 3.6
27. University of Southern California 3.5
University of Virginia 3.5
29. Johns Hopkins University (MD) 3.3
New York University 3.3
Rutgers State University?New Brunswick (NJ) 3.3
SUNY?Stony Brook 3.3
University of California?Irvine 3.3
University of Utah 3.3
35. Ohio State University 3.2
Penn State University?University Park 3.2
University of Arizona 3.2
University of Chicago 3.2
University of Colorado?Boulder 3.2
University of Minnesota?Twin Cities 3.2
Washington University in St. Louis 3.2
42. Indiana University?Bloomington 3.1
Northwestern University (IL) 3.1
University of California?Davis 3.1
University of Rochester (NY) 3.1
Virginia Tech 3.1
47. Dartmouth College (NH) 3.0
University of Florida 3.0
49. Michigan State University 2.9
North Carolina State University 2.9
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (NY) 2.9
Texas A&M University?College Station 2.9
University of California?Santa Barbara 2.9
University of Pittsburgh 2.9
55. Arizona State University 2.7
SUNY?Buffalo 2.7
Syracuse University (NY) 2.7
University of California?Santa Cruz 2.7
University of Illinois?Chicago 2.7
60. Boston University 2.6
Iowa State University 2.6
OGI School of Science & Engineering?Oregon Health & Science U. 2.6
University of Delaware 2.6
University of Iowa 2.6
University of Oregon 2.6
Vanderbilt University (TN) 2.6
67. Case Western Reserve University (OH) 2.5
Northeastern University (MA) 2.5
Oregon State University 2.5
University of Tennessee?Knoxville 2.5

haha u of michigan / ann arbor is lot higher than i thought

Halik do you think my brother would have accepted a position there if they sucked!! He did careful research before accepting a job as a professor in the CS dept.

Sysadmin

 

[Rahminator]

CS is dead. If you want a job get into engineering.

 

[dr150]

Originally posted by: cRazYdood
I'd just go to the best public school in your state if that's an option. It'll save lots of money and you'll still be going to a good school.
.

^^

Also take into account where you want to work and where most of the job opportunities are. Top local schools always have sway in a TIGHT job market.

Since Silicon Valley is a big market for that major, schools like Berkeley are your best option.

 

[wviperw]

Originally posted by: Rahminator
CS is dead. If you want a job get into engineering.

I'm sorry, but I actually want to *like* what I do. And for me, that is not engineering.

 

[Kyteland]

Originally posted by: phatj
University of Illinois, Urbana Champaign

This is a great school to attend if you plan on going to grad school. If you plan on becoming a web master or network guy your $$ is probably better spent on an instate school (assuming you are from out of state) Tuition is expensive if you don't live in Illinois.

Anyway, I graduated from here. It's a very theory oriented school. You can learn a lot without ever learning anything practical. That side of your education is really left up to you.

 

[ClueLis]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: gopunk

Well, I'm considering the overall reputation (since most people consider the ivy rep to be at the highest level). I would consider MIT, Caltech, etc. at the same level. CMU is a bit below that. Maybe it's at the level of the lower Ivys.

I think that someone that went to Havard for CS undergrad would be better off than someone that UIUC for CS undergrad (in a general sense). I'm just taking into account the overall rep of the school.

eh well i guess agree to disagree on what ivy means... i think ivy has never primarily meant a school strong in computer science or engineering fields... when i think of ivy, i think of law and humanities. up until recently, harvard had a hell of a time attracting faculty (mainly cuz none of the CS faculty ever got tenure)... they're just starting to recover from decades of neglect.

Well, I'm not talking about the definition of Ivy (I agree with that general description)... I'm talking about the overall reputation Most of the Ivys are top-tier engineering or science schools, too. It's just that they have small departments. Some of them are pretty amazing given their small school & spending.

Although Cornell (technically considered an Ivy) has a fairly large engineering department (it is also much larger than the rest of the Ivys at about 12,000 undergrads). For the most part though, I think your arguement is correct.

I believe that the origin of the term "Ivy League" was to describe the really old universities, which had been around so long that ivy grew on the walls.

 

[Platypus]

Check in India.

 

[dr150]

India and China are indeed SUCKING THE LIFE out of CS in the USA.

It's not wise to major ONLY in this. SUPLLEMENT it with something like chemical engineering, which is always highly sought after.

 

[cchen]

Originally posted by: ClueLis

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: gopunk

Well, I'm considering the overall reputation (since most people consider the ivy rep to be at the highest level). I would consider MIT, Caltech, etc. at the same level. CMU is a bit below that. Maybe it's at the level of the lower Ivys.

I think that someone that went to Havard for CS undergrad would be better off than someone that UIUC for CS undergrad (in a general sense). I'm just taking into account the overall rep of the school.

eh well i guess agree to disagree on what ivy means... i think ivy has never primarily meant a school strong in computer science or engineering fields... when i think of ivy, i think of law and humanities. up until recently, harvard had a hell of a time attracting faculty (mainly cuz none of the CS faculty ever got tenure)... they're just starting to recover from decades of neglect.

Well, I'm not talking about the definition of Ivy (I agree with that general description)... I'm talking about the overall reputation Most of the Ivys are top-tier engineering or science schools, too. It's just that they have small departments. Some of them are pretty amazing given their small school & spending.

Although Cornell (technically considered an Ivy) has a fairly large engineering department (it is also much larger than the rest of the Ivys at about 12,000 undergrads). For the most part though, I think your arguement is correct.

I believe that the origin of the term "Ivy League" was to describe the really old universities, which had been around so long that ivy grew on the walls.

What are you talking about? Cornell is in the Ivy League. What you described as the origin of the term also is not true.

 

[toant103]

Originally posted by: beyonddc
Virgina Tech
Syrausce University
RIT (Rochester Insitute of Tech.)

For myself, I just graduated from WIT (Wentworth Insitute of Tech) located in Boston. Their CS program was pretty bad when I first study there, but I just looked at their catalog, their CS courses seem to improved a lot, but then again, the man/woman ratio is very depressing.

yeb, Virginia Tech