That is the sane choice, if you have to choose. Having to choose implies that you can choose.Call me weird, but I'd rather have a closed source driver that works well like Nvidia's binary drivers, instead of an open source driver like Intel's that sucks.
Intel graphics suck hard at anything Radeon and nvidia clean the floor with Intel graphics anyway you look at it under linux, OSX and Windows or any other OS. Linux works perfectly fine on my nvidia GPU with out the nvidia proprietary drive enabled end of story.It depends on the application. Intel graphics might suck for gaming, but they're more than enough to handle light office work and various business applications.
That said, when your drivers are so flaky that they can't even reliably do THAT right most of the time under Linux, you know that you have problems.
UM you completely missed the point for I as a (((PAYING))) nvidia customer and user I am fucking pissed for getting shafted with half baked propitiatory Geforce drivers on Linux.
I don't really understand your guys arguement over this.
Some of the brightest minds on earth refuse to work for the man. It's guys like this that lurk in the world of Linux in the first place.
Defending nvidia for not releasing open source drivers or at least cooperating with the linux community seems silly to me.
Hey Zummy, Would you then like to maybe ADD something instead of just armchair judging all other opinions?
EDIT: This thread should be moved out of here to the software forum.
Why don't you just move it then?
What are you talking about?
Open source OS, closed driver. Makes perfect sense.Blaming NVIDIA for not releasing open source driver under linux (when their closed soruce drivers work just fine) is more silly in my eyes *shrugs*
Blaming NVIDIA for not releasing open source driver under linux (when their closed soruce drivers work just fine) is more silly in my eyes *shrugs*
Yes, Nvidia is about making money selling hardware and the more upgrades the better, but their Tegra and Tesla lines depend on linux and the linux kernel so it's not like they're not making money of the kernel group's work.
UM when not installing any nvidia drivers at all works much better than installing them you knows nvidia's serving up a busted driver product however good thing Linux is rock solid stable at leased it has been for me but it took a bunch of research on my end to work around the nvidia driver pitfalls.Whats halfbaked about it?
AFAIK NVIDIA's driver is better than AMD's under linux...so what is your point?
That you don't have any arguments and retort to FUD?
Ask around...your definition of "halfbaked" is hillarious though!
That's because it was posted in the wrong forum. OT, *nix Software, and OSes would all be better places for the thread to have been created in.Notice how the talk is converging on the differences in OS'es..and not videocards...
So Intel, AMD, Realtek, Marvell, Broadcom, Silicon Image, and so on, should not support a popular OS for their hardware? If NVidia would just offer up specifications for the hardware, there are already people willing to handle the work. Nouveau is in mainline. Nouveau could be much better in every way, if NVidia would just dump a big partially-redacted PDF of HW specifications on them. Do that for the GPUs, and other special parts of their ARM SoCs, and everyone would be happy.Give me one good reason to why I should pay for open source NVIDIA drivers on linux?
Because that is what Linus is saying.
He wan't NVIDIA (read: the consumers) to pay for open source drivers on linux...and flips the bird as a powerfull "argument"...for not being taken seriously.
How about because people buying their hardware would like it to work? They do actively support their GPUs, just not nearly with enough functionality outside of the proprietary driver. Documentation, to level that AMD offers, and the ability to accasionally get a straight answer or two from engineers, would be enough.Why should NVIDIA spend resources/manpower on making open source drivers for linux?
Fuzzy warm feelings?
Millions of Tegras just cried. Nvidia makes more money from desktop and notebook devices running Windows, but Android alone is a pretty big market.I actually like that they don't waste to much time on linux and focus on where the main use of their GPU's are located:
Gaming on windows.
Blender. Fully functional and free while 3dsmax is 3,500 USD. Wonder which one will become the starting point for new 3D artists. It's true that the current professional software is better but the gap is smaller every year like right now you dont need Windows for your everyday's software.
Worse, not different. Linus said that there are many not-so-easy companies, but that Nvidia is in his experience the worst.How is that different from Samsung, TI, etc not releasing anything but binaries?
Which is what bothers me about Nvidia, they have no problem profiting on the backs of others. But when it comes time to give back, they refuse.
Heh, free, fully functional, and fully suck is what you mean.
Lol, you are so controlled by confirmation bias...You should make that your avatar...
But this picture sums up the entire thread...AMD fans think this means NVIDIA is bad...informed people know this is the hippe-stance of the *unix crowd...they act like spoiled children...and attract like-minded people as this thread shows.
Lol, you are so controlled by confirmation bias...
You sound like a kook.This thread is not about me...any more smoke&mirrors?