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CZroe

Lifer
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When you gathered your family around your bluray player and saw black you knew that was going to happen but did it anyhow?

Reading comprehension: FAIL.

Buying gray/grey market is not piracy either, genius. I bought what Amazon suggested and ALL indications were that it would work.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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I used to have to deal with all of this crap. pull ups pull downs 25fps 24fps 23.976 23.98 29.97 double pull ups pal ntsc. Its all different. You want the best swiss army knife conversion program and its free?

mpeg streamclip.

http://www.squared5.com/

Go load up your codecs and make whatever you want.
 

CZroe

Lifer
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And there it is folks! He walked right into it.

It wasn't a DVD. Look at the first pic: It was a 1080i BD. YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS 1080i PAL. There is 1080i at 25hz, but the PS3/TV is perfectly capable of that (my Nine Inch Nails BD demonstrated that).

It wasn't just a black screen. It was not playing at all. Guess what? The same thing happened on a PC when I turned off AnyDVD's region free feature and played in TMT and PowerDVD just to prove that it was the problem. I know 100% that this was the issue. My rip plays perfectly on the PS3 at the source's resolution and frame rate (interlacing and all).

Though the issue was already confirmed to be the region code, I 100% confirmed the issue with a region-free BD player too. Would you like to see me dig up the disc and demonstrate?

Your completely wrong knee-jerk reactions continue to provide us with amusement. Do go on.
 
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JSt0rm

Lifer
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And there it is folks! He walked right into it.

It wasn't a DVD. Look at the first pic: It was a 1080i BD. YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS 1080i PAL. There is 1080i at 25hz, but the PS3 is perfectly capable of that (my Nine Inch Nails BD demonstrated that).


You are so dumb. Your tv is not capable of 25fps pal.
 

CZroe

Lifer
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You are so dumb. Your tv is not capable of 25fps pal.

It's not 25FPS PAL. It's probably not even 25hz. Learn something, will ya? Amazon was describing a region that correlates with the PAL format. They also called it a DVD in the same line. As I already pointed out to you, IT WAS NEITHER PAL NOR DVD.

Who's being "dumb" again?" Do go on.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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jesus christ. It can be 1080i and pal.

1080i is lines of resolution and pal is a format that includes a frame rate of 25fps.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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ntsc is 29.97 frames per second. Do you know why?

Black and white ran at 30fps and the clock was your wall electrical outlets 60hz/2. When they made a color signal they did a .01% pull down to 29.97 frames per second.

Pal is the same idea but they have 50hz electricity.
 

sdifox

No Lifer
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I do this shit for a living. fucking stop. lmao.

Yes, there is adifferent frame rate, but unlike old analogue tvs with fixed frame rates, new (well, newer than analogue, still over 20 year old.) are capable of handling those frame rates. Thus the PAL NTSC issue is basically moot.
 
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CZroe

Lifer
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jesus christ. It can be 1080i and pal.

1080i is lines of resolution and pal is a format that includes a frame rate of 25fps.

PAL is a lot more than just a frame rate. Even ignoring it as a broadcast standard it defines colors, resolutions, VBlank interval, etc.

1080i is not PAL.

Once again, this has been 100% confirmed to be a region code problem ONLY.

ntsc is 29.97 frames per second. Do you know why?

Black and white ran at 30fps and the clock was your wall electrical outlets 60hz/2. When they made a color signal they did a .01% pull down to 29.97 frames per second.

Pal is the same idea but they have 50hz electricity.

I know EXACTLY why and I know why there are different kinds of PAL and NTSC: Frequency is not the only difference (color encoding is a big one). NTSC broadcasts were actually done at 60hz because they actually draw FIELDS per second (they are not interlaced frames as they are when stored on a DVD). Some South American regions use PAL timing with NTSC color encoding. Do go on, though. I'll just make a video to prove that it works just fine on the TV.
 

CZroe

Lifer
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Yes, there is adifferent frame rate, but unlike old analogue tvs with fixed frame rates, new (well, newer than analogue) are capable of handling those frame rates. Thus the PAL NTSC issue is basically moot.

This particular TV was actually a $2,300 CRT (XBR910; tested HDMI-to-DVI and component). It supports 25hz 1080i just fine (NIN BD) and so does my $5,000 LCD (XBR2). Not sure why it's relevant though, considering that it wasn't actually 25/50hz PAL on the disc as Jst0rm STILL seems to think.
 
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JSt0rm

Lifer
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cool. Im glad your spending time googling this shit. I havent thought about it in 7 years.

And yes modern tvs are playing different frame rates but clearly his tv did not. Also I do not believe any consumer level tv is playing ntsc and pal. I could be wrong on that but I guarantee this shleb doesnt have that tv.
 

CZroe

Lifer
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cool. Im glad your spending time googling this shit. I havent thought about it in 7 years.

And yes modern tvs are playing different frame rates but clearly his tv did not. Also I do not believe any consumer level tv is playing ntsc and pal. I could be wrong on that but I guarantee this shleb doesnt have that tv.

Reading comprehension time again. I duplicated the blank screen on a PC by turning off AnyDVD HD. It isn't just a blank screen: it's not playing at all. No video, no audio, no incrementally increasing playback progress, NOTHING. On top of that, I ripped it and confirmed the video format works on the PS3 without conversion. I do t even think it was 25hz, though I know my US region NIN BD is and that also worked just fine. Do go on though.
 

CZroe

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JSt0rm

Lifer
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Not sure why it's relevant though, considering that it wasn't actually 25/50hz PAL on the disc as Jst0rm STILL seems to think.


The screen shot shows the format as pal. You are telling me the format was not pal? But it was a uk disk. lol.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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You still aren't listening: IT WASN'T PAL! It worked just fine after removing region protection and doing nothing more.

omg. You do know your computer played it because the computer can do that right? I thought that was a obvious part of your description. VLC allowed you to play the pal disk. The disk was still pal. Fuck.
 

CZroe

Lifer
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The screen shot shows the format as pal. You are telling me the format was not pal? But it was a uk disk. lol.


YES. I AM TELLING YOU EXACTLY THAT. THAT IS AN EXTREMELY COMMON ERROR IN MANY LISTINGS. I've seen freakin' self-contained 160x160 dot-matrix monochrome LCD GAMEBOYS described "PAL" before. IT'S STILL COMPLETELY WRONG. Understand?! It's in direct contradiction to the first image too. Do go on.
 
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CZroe

Lifer
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omg. You do know your computer played it because the computer can do that right? I thought that was a obvious part of your description. VLC allowed you to play the pal disk. The disk was still pal. Fuck.


No. The PS3 allowed me to play the PAL region rip and I duplicated the blank screen with no playback on three different Region A PC software players when turning off AnyDVD (VLC, TMT, and PowerDVD). NONE of them could play it with AnyDVD's region free features disabled and ALL of them did exactly what the PS3 did despite the fact that a PC can play PAL with no problem. Also like the PS3, NONE of them gave a region code error. I also played it on that very same TV with a region free player later on. Like I said: 100% confirmed.

Do go on.
 
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