This is how it was last time, though now with the addition of Rand Paul cheerfully pissing into the GOP's punch bowl.
I'm not ready to lay bets yet. If they thought they had the votes they would have voted.
This is how it was last time, though now with the addition of Rand Paul cheerfully pissing into the GOP's punch bowl.
I'm not ready to lay bets yet. If they thought they had the votes they would have voted.
I might have missed some coverage here, but I seem to recall at least Murkowski and Collins on record as no voters well before it came to a vote last time, but I haven't seen that happen here yet. I hope you're correct and it turns out the same way it did last time.
Mitch McConnell is horrible at counting votes and Paul Ryan sucks at wrangling in the votes both are pretty incompetent at their job assuming they don't think their job is to simply obstruct.
They're so desperate to get something through they're resorting to just completely destroying their own base. They've gone mad. I don't really know what else to say.
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...ns-to-pay-16k-more-under-gop-obamacare-repeal
A new study from the AARP finds that older people could pay as much as $16,174 more per year for health coverage under the Republican bill to repeal ObamaCare sponsored by Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and Bill Cassidy (R-La.).
The study finds that on average nationwide, a 60-year-old making $25,000 per year would have to pay as much as $16,174 more per year for health insurance.
A 60-year-old making $25,000 per year in Alaska would have to pay as much as $31,790 more per year, and in Arizona, the person would have to pay $22,074 more, according to the AARP study.
I can think of lots of people who deserve that. Trump, his family, his friends. Paul Manafort. MANY people deserve that.
It is not a problem with "our culture"... it is a problem with republican culture. They deserve this bill and I hope they get it. They deserve to FEEL what its like to be screwed over by their government for real. They haven't suffered, so they haven't learned. Let them suffer.
Single payer will NEVER happen until thousands and thousand of americans have died as a result of the "free market" healthcare system. Right now people think things are expensive... but they still have healthcare. They aren't dead. When they die, they'll learn.
Give them the system they desire. Let them learn the truth about the "free market": it cares for nobodies health. The market does not care if you die.
Latest video of this skag trying to explain the graham/cassidy billHere's additional information on the proposal.
The Republican elites will never suffer from these policies, so I'm not sure what your point is there. I'm talking about the average idiots that are owning themselves on Facebook and Twitter.
If Republicanism is the disease, Democrats are the immune system that's too weak to fight it off. We need to ask what's wrong with our immune system.
The problem with this is that our healthcare system today under the ACA already kills tons of people, what makes you think that killing more will help? When people are crushed by society, whether it's health care or falling though some other part of the tattered social net, they don't smack their foreheads and start voting for Democrats. They become dislocated from politics and don't vote at all. Look at the 2016 election. The story wasn't how many votes Trump got, it's how FEW votes Clinton got. It's insane to hope for this bill because you think it will hasten some social shift to liberalism, it absolutely won't.
It remains to be seen if Murkowski will be swayed by this approach. She openly rebuffed a previous payoff attempt on the basis that it was bad for the country and would, eventually, be bad for Alaska too.
She owes the GOP leadership nothing, isn't up until 2022, received considerable local acclaim for rejecting the last proposal, the bill still has stuff she doesn't like (defunding PP), and to give in now would require a near total reversal of her stated positions. I don't think it's impossible she would flip it just doesn't look super likely.
I wonder what percentage of these boomers voted for trump? They deserve this bill. It is unfortunate that good people must suffer also... but we failed to stop them from taking over the government. We let the russians trick them on Facebook into voting for Trump. We didn't riot. We all just rolled over.
Hell noez I didn't. He wasn't going to shizzle my nizzle fo sho.Around 55% of those over 50 (I think that's the age) voted for Trump.
Well at least she is using her position get more for her state.
What are all those blue/purple state senators doing?
Eg. Look at Gardner and Toomey. Both blue states, both look get fucked by this, yet they are loyally lining up to screw their own people over.
Burn down the GOP
Why GOP Healthcare Plans are so Bad....
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gop-health-care-plans-bad-110056282.html
Notice the Koch mentions in the story. $400 million in donations at stake.
In other news, Graham and Cassidy are doing a town hall on CNN with Bernie and Amy Klobuchar (Senator from MN) on Monday night.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/21/politics/graham-cassidy-town-hall-sanders-kobuchar/index.html
I don't like this. This isn't the time for Bernie to grandstand about his plan. He's not the right person for this and I don't think that there's anything more for the Democrats to gain from it. They need to be united in preserving the ACA first. If they go off message with his plan the Republicans win.
It just makes my head hurt reading comments on other sites arguing *for* this thing. This isn't just about 20 or 30 million people. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US who use any form of health care are impacted by this. Not just people covered by the ACA.
The ACA introduced a TON of expansion money to health care providers. There are thousands of regional hospitals/clinics that sprouted up because of the influx of medicaid dollars. Coverage is also access to care. Regional hospitals thrive off of this since so many of the people in those areas are covered by medicaid dollars. That money goes away and what happens? Those regional hospitals shut down. Access to primary care and non-ICU based care is gone or greatly reduced. People that had a small town hospital are now forced to travel and hour or more to a large hospital. The well above normal pay that the hospital workers and community had from that regional hospital is gone. Jobs are lost. The large hospitals are now forced to take in a higher patient volume than they were prepared for so wait times go up. They are also seeing patients that no longer have any form of major reimbursement so they either have to write it off or jack up the rates for everyone that does have coverage. They are getting a huge reduction in reimbursement as well so they cut back on well paying jobs.
This has such a slippery slope of effect that a gaggle of geriatric old fucks in some mahogany lined state room who don't know the first damn thing about healthcare are driving to save face for promising it for years.
Those states who are benefiting the most are the exact ones that have representatives voting for it.
Keep on MAGA MAGA'ing assholes.
So let me get this straight. My tax dollars go to pay for hospitals in economically nonviable parts of the country, then also to pay for the healthcare for the people who live there. Then those people vote Trump into office (check the urban/rural vote breakdown)?! Hmm,maybe I'm changing my mind, let this thing pass and let the redneck racists suffer..
I could move to the middle of nowhere too, but I suffer through heavy traffic and living on a tiny plot of land. Because? There are jobs here!
It's subtle but I don't think Rand Paul is on board...
It's interesting to see Rand Paul doing the 'shameless lying' thing, only the other way around. He doesn't want to vote for this bill because it would crater health care in his state but instead of arguing that way he's trying to say it doesn't go far enough. lol.