Got a fvcking ticket

[shopbruin]

Originally posted by: Crazymofo
Give me a break you self-righteous pricks like none of you have never rolled thru a stop sign on a side street in the middle of the night at <10mph. And I don't want to hear one of you snot-nosed punks that still lives at home with mommy say no either, you're not allowed out after dark anyway. If the OP really hasn't ever had a ticket then he should fight this one for sure so that he can keep his record clean. Judges will work with someone that has a clean record... I f'ing hate laws like this its one thing to do it in the middle of the day but at night as long as it wasn't a blatant disregard that ticket has no meaning other than acting as an unfair tax. I can roll up to a stop sign and look both ways more than 5 times each without coming to a complete stop, how is checking for clear 5 times each way not sufficient enough? It?s the middle of the night the amount of traffic on the streets even in large cities is a 10th of normal if not much less. Some traffic laws should have a SOL for night time. I won't even get into the fact that he was treated like an escaped prisoner because he "rolled" thru a stop sign, now had he (and he may have we don?t know for sure) just "blown" thru it would mean a lot more as in drunk idiot.

1. i have never rolled through a stop sign and i'm familiar with california stops, i've lived here all my life
2. i don't live at home with my mommy, and i'm allowed out after dark. in fact after dark i drive SLOWER and more carefully.
3. i've never had a ticket, and i've never been pulled over in my life. i also stop at yellow lights, stop when i see pedestrians crossing at crosswalks, and drive the speed limit.
4. just because you can do it doesn't mean you should. i predict many angry posters mocking you for being an idiot.

he was treated like an escaped prisoner because he was being an ass to the cop. if he apologized he might have gotten off.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Crazymofo
You're doing this now only to get me pissed off and its not going to work. In english we use something called paragraphs which contain things called sentences. If you strip one sentence from a paragraph the meaning and what the WHOLE paragraph is saying is lost. You keep attacking what I'm saying in a different way each time I correct your stupidity.

Really? In English there is such a thing as punctuation as well.

Now I will give you the fvcking english lesson asshole.

Am I supposed to be phased by being called an asshole? Such much anger man.

When I said "I f'ing hate laws" I was referring to personal feelings towards certain laws then by saying "like this" in the same sentence right after the "I f'ing hate laws" I pointed to the law that the OP broke, not all laws.

Keep back pedaling there buddy.

See that in no way says "I hate laws like this and after dark they should all be breakable."

Fixed for correctness. Here's your quote again.

I f'ing hate laws like this its one thing to do it in the middle of the day but at night as long as it wasn't a blatant disregard that ticket has no meaning other than acting as an unfair tax.

You are wrong and have been since the first post you made so please leave me alone.

You're the one back pedaling here buddy, and I'm wrong?

 

[duragezic]

I haven't read through all the posts, but glancing they all looked like reaming the OP over rolling through the stop sign. Why is everyone all high and mighty over that? We've all rolled through stop signs before for chrissakes.

Regardless, I can't believe no one has commented about the cop calling in backup and the illegal search. That is such BS man. That's how the cops are where I live in small town in the friggin' Upper Peninsula of Michigan. That is just wrong how they can search you like that. The cops here will find any and every reason to pull you over. When it is nighttime, I have to drive so perfectly to avoid getting pulled over and harassed. I've had so many friends gotten harassed (and I've been there some of the times). F*ck off pigs!

 

[Crazymofo]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Crazymofo

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Crazymofo
Yes.
I would stop as well and probably the OP would too. I'm talking about clear as day intersections that you can see thru all ways with no issue.
So when you do stop there's still no way to see whats coming? And when I roll to a sign and LOOK several times and can SEE clearly that nothings coming (and I highlighted where I already said that) I still can't don't know what "might" be coming?
I love how you wish harm on someone only because they have a different opinion than you. Probably a gay basher/hater.

Yes he would get completely fvcked if hit a car in that situation but lets all start using our brains for a second here... Would you continue to run that sign if you couldn't actually see what was coming or if you could actually see a car coming? No, you wouldn't even think about it. I'm talking about knowing for dang sure that no cars are coming because you can see clearly that none are and then at a safe pace (read not 10mph over the limit) proceed thru the intersection.

Look asstard, just because you think it's a stupid law doesn't give you the right to break it whenever you feel like it or when you deem it is safe to do so. If you are dumb enough to do it and get caught then I have no sympathy for you. In fact, it would make me smile to see you get a ticket for failing to stop at a stop sign.

Look asstard, this country wouldn't fvcking exist if it wasn't for people like me calling to question its leaders rules and actions.

Just like I'm going to fight the stupid baseless ticket I got, I would fight that ticket and win too.

No wonder this country is going to sh|t, no one thinks they have any say in the government except for a stupid worthless vote once a year, or two or four. More like no one has a back bone.

Look dickbrain, I never said anything to lead you to believe that I never question this country's leaders rules and actions. I signed petitions to help get an inept governor out of office, I also signed and helped distribute petitions to fight driver's licenses for illegal aliens. Fighting a traffic ticket pales in comparison to what I've done.

I happen to think the traffic laws are just fine the way they are. We could probably ease up on some of the restrictions on modifying cars (like all the parts must have certain state approved numbers on them or they are illegal-even if the car still passes smog with them on).

You go on believing that you are some sort of righteous crusader for fighting a traffic ticket though. Wow, I bet you rank yourself up there with Martin Luther King or Malcom X huh?

No c0cksucker I don't rank myself with anyone I am my own person. I do not feel that what I'm saying is a crusade what I am saying is that all you stupid ignorant teenagers think that rolling thru a stop in the middle of the night when you can see clearly in all directions is and should be against the law. Do you let the government see, hear, talk and feel for you? I sure as hell don't and won't either.

 

[Crazymofo]

Originally posted by: freesia39

Originally posted by: Crazymofo
Give me a break you self-righteous pricks like none of you have never rolled thru a stop sign on a side street in the middle of the night at <10mph. And I don't want to hear one of you snot-nosed punks that still lives at home with mommy say no either, you're not allowed out after dark anyway. If the OP really hasn't ever had a ticket then he should fight this one for sure so that he can keep his record clean. Judges will work with someone that has a clean record... I f'ing hate laws like this its one thing to do it in the middle of the day but at night as long as it wasn't a blatant disregard that ticket has no meaning other than acting as an unfair tax. I can roll up to a stop sign and look both ways more than 5 times each without coming to a complete stop, how is checking for clear 5 times each way not sufficient enough? It?s the middle of the night the amount of traffic on the streets even in large cities is a 10th of normal if not much less. Some traffic laws should have a SOL for night time. I won't even get into the fact that he was treated like an escaped prisoner because he "rolled" thru a stop sign, now had he (and he may have we don?t know for sure) just "blown" thru it would mean a lot more as in drunk idiot.

1. i have never rolled through a stop sign and i'm familiar with california stops, i've lived here all my life
2. i don't live at home with my mommy, and i'm allowed out after dark. in fact after dark i drive SLOWER and more carefully.
3. i've never had a ticket, and i've never been pulled over in my life. i also stop at yellow lights, stop when i see pedestrians crossing at crosswalks, and drive the speed limit.
4. just because you can do it doesn't mean you should. i predict many angry posters mocking you for being an idiot.

he was treated like an escaped prisoner because he was being an ass to the cop. if he apologized he might have gotten off.

Where in the OPs first post says that he was an ass to the cop?

 

[cavemanmoron]

wow you guys need to lay off the name calling.



Bah Humbug to y'all.

LOL

 

[shopbruin]

Originally posted by: Crazymofo

Originally posted by: freesia39

Originally posted by: Crazymofo
Give me a break you self-righteous pricks like none of you have never rolled thru a stop sign on a side street in the middle of the night at <10mph. And I don't want to hear one of you snot-nosed punks that still lives at home with mommy say no either, you're not allowed out after dark anyway. If the OP really hasn't ever had a ticket then he should fight this one for sure so that he can keep his record clean. Judges will work with someone that has a clean record... I f'ing hate laws like this its one thing to do it in the middle of the day but at night as long as it wasn't a blatant disregard that ticket has no meaning other than acting as an unfair tax. I can roll up to a stop sign and look both ways more than 5 times each without coming to a complete stop, how is checking for clear 5 times each way not sufficient enough? It?s the middle of the night the amount of traffic on the streets even in large cities is a 10th of normal if not much less. Some traffic laws should have a SOL for night time. I won't even get into the fact that he was treated like an escaped prisoner because he "rolled" thru a stop sign, now had he (and he may have we don?t know for sure) just "blown" thru it would mean a lot more as in drunk idiot.

1. i have never rolled through a stop sign and i'm familiar with california stops, i've lived here all my life
2. i don't live at home with my mommy, and i'm allowed out after dark. in fact after dark i drive SLOWER and more carefully.
3. i've never had a ticket, and i've never been pulled over in my life. i also stop at yellow lights, stop when i see pedestrians crossing at crosswalks, and drive the speed limit.
4. just because you can do it doesn't mean you should. i predict many angry posters mocking you for being an idiot.

he was treated like an escaped prisoner because he was being an ass to the cop. if he apologized he might have gotten off.

Where in the OPs first post says that he was an ass to the cop?

He proceeds to ask for license, insurance and registration, and I casually explained to him it was my SO's car and I was filling it with gas before work. He said it looked suspicious because I had "blown" through the stop sign and I appeared as if I had been drinking judging by the way I went through the stop sign. I corrected him by saying that I didn't stop completely, but by no means did I "blow through" the stop sign. next thing I know he is back at his car and 3 more patrol cars pull up and start surrounding the car.

1. should have handed over his license immediately, and also mention this is my SO's car, so i may have to look for the registration.
2. said "i'm sorry sir that i did not come to a full and complete stop" instead of "no i did not blow through the stop sign" the second he said that the cop can and will interpret it as belligerent because you are disagreeing. if you are ever pulled over, you are always better off leaving your hands on the wheel until the cop asks for your license, registration and insurance, and then complying quietly. and then apologize and never disagree with his assessment. my brother was pulled over for speeding on i5 outside of buttonwillow on our way back to LA. the cop said he was doing 93 and on the ticket wrote only 80 something (which was probably closer to the actual speed.) what did he do? NOT ARGUE WITH THE COP. (i'm sorry sir) or even quietly just sitting there.

but moral of the story, if you are less than polite to law enforcement (or hell to people in general) you will not be the receipent of exemplary behavior. you will become a suspect when you're belligerent - you would be considered someone with something to hide.

like someone said earlier, it is the end of the year and the cops are pulling over more people because of all the holiday partying and drinking.

 

[SynthDude2001]

I'm sure we all break traffic laws from time to time, in whatever capacity that may be (not signaling, going over the speed limit, or whatever). But I'd hope that most of us realize that those laws are there for a reason, and as such accept the risk of getting caught.

If you willingly break the law, you've got no reason to bitch about being caught.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Crazymofo
No c0cksucker I don't rank myself with anyone I am my own person. I do not feel that what I'm saying is a crusade what I am saying is that all you stupid ignorant teenagers think that rolling thru a stop in the middle of the night when you can see clearly in all directions is and should be against the law. Do you let the government see, hear, talk and feel for you? I sure as hell don't and won't either.

I'm not a teenager. I guarantee I'm older than you are Jr.

Let me guess, you are one of those people who argue against seatbelt and helmet laws aren't you? :roll:

Edit-I bet I've sucked equal or fewer c0cks than you have. :laugh:

 

[Choralone]

I'd say just pay the ticket and get on with your life. Sure you didn't "blow through" the stop sign, but you didn't stop either. If I had a dollar for every person that rolls through the stop sign 75ft away from my house I'd probably be able to retire by now. If I had a $20 for every time I've started down the street from in front of my house (I park on the street) and nearly been hit by someone who though they would roll through the stop sign I'd easily be able to buy myself a new car. :roll:

Like you've heard before ad nauseam (sp?) stop means STOP! You weren't lucky enough this time not to get caught, too bad. I don't agree with everything the cop did. But depending on where you were and the other types of individuals they encounter in the area at that time of night I may be able to see how they would approach you they way they did.

And in case anyone is wondering, yes I almost got blasted again last night after starting down the street from in front of my house. Some soccer mom in a white mini-van thought she would COMPLETELY blow the stop sign. It was about 10pm and traffic was light. She didn't even slow down. And yes I have complained to the local police dept. about people running that stop sign. Since there hasn't been any serious accidents yet they don't seem overly concerned, although a kid did get hit by a car that didn't stop last summer. :disgust:

 

[spidey07]

I corrected him by saying that I didn't stop completely, but by no means did I "blow through" the stop sign.

and that was your fatal downfall.

You corrected and disrespected him, probably had an attitude problem, so he gave you the racket instead of just letting you off.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Crazymofo

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Crazymofo
Give me a break you self-righteous pricks like none of you have never rolled thru a stop sign on a side street in the middle of the night at <10mph. And I don't want to hear one of you snot-nosed punks that still lives at home with mommy say no either, you're not allowed out after dark anyway. If the OP really hasn't ever had a ticket then he should fight this one for sure so that he can keep his record clean. Judges will work with someone that has a clean record... I f'ing hate laws like this its one thing to do it in the middle of the day but at night as long as it wasn't a blatant disregard that ticket has no meaning other than acting as an unfair tax. I can roll up to a stop sign and look both ways more than 5 times each without coming to a complete stop, how is checking for clear 5 times each way not sufficient enough? It?s the middle of the night the amount of traffic on the streets even in large cities is a 10th of normal if not much less. Some traffic laws should have a SOL for night time. I won't even get into the fact that he was treated like an escaped prisoner because he "rolled" thru a stop sign, now had he (and he may have we don?t know for sure) just "blown" thru it would mean a lot more as in drunk idiot.

whoa there. go fire up another rock and relax. If you do not do drugs maybe you should start Oh and overdose that way we don't have to read your crap.

He broke the law then smart mouthed off to a cop. So yeah they are going to do anything they can to him.

His post in no way indicates he "smart-mouthed" the cop. Of course the OP isn't going to come out and say he was being a condescending a$$hole but you have every right to explain yourself and your actions to a LEO before he takes your papers. Yes cops will give you everything they can if you treat them like crap doesn't mean its right no does it?

And Waggy you post some fvcking stupid a$$ sh|t too so why dont you take your own advice please. Or maybe just keep your mouth shut when you have nothing of substance to add to a discussion.

wow such hostility. You really should calm down. You are not going to win any arguments at all with such language and hatred.

I have done a LOT of dumb things in my life. But to say that driving laws should not matter at night is just dumb. There is a reason that the stop sign is there. No matter if he slowed down to 4mph it really does not matter. HE broke the law and got a ticket for it. He then smart mouthed off to the cop (trying to argue semantics with I'm is not a good idea) so the cop was a prick.

I not even arguing about him getting a ticket. Heck i have got a few myself. What i had to point out is your stupidity at saying that the law should not matter at night and are arguing about it.

but comeon and call me some more names. i feel so left out! heh

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Crazymofo

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Crazymofo
Give me a break you self-righteous pricks like none of you have never rolled thru a stop sign on a side street in the middle of the night at <10mph. And I don't want to hear one of you snot-nosed punks that still lives at home with mommy say no either, you're not allowed out after dark anyway. If the OP really hasn't ever had a ticket then he should fight this one for sure so that he can keep his record clean. Judges will work with someone that has a clean record... I f'ing hate laws like this its one thing to do it in the middle of the day but at night as long as it wasn't a blatant disregard that ticket has no meaning other than acting as an unfair tax. I can roll up to a stop sign and look both ways more than 5 times each without coming to a complete stop, how is checking for clear 5 times each way not sufficient enough? It?s the middle of the night the amount of traffic on the streets even in large cities is a 10th of normal if not much less. Some traffic laws should have a SOL for night time. I won't even get into the fact that he was treated like an escaped prisoner because he "rolled" thru a stop sign, now had he (and he may have we don?t know for sure) just "blown" thru it would mean a lot more as in drunk idiot.

whoa there. go fire up another rock and relax. If you do not do drugs maybe you should start Oh and overdose that way we don't have to read your crap.

He broke the law then smart mouthed off to a cop. So yeah they are going to do anything they can to him.

His post in no way indicates he "smart-mouthed" the cop. Of course the OP isn't going to come out and say he was being a condescending a$$hole but you have every right to explain yourself and your actions to a LEO before he takes your papers. Yes cops will give you everything they can if you treat them like crap doesn't mean its right no does it?

And Waggy you post some fvcking stupid a$$ sh|t too so why dont you take your own advice please. Or maybe just keep your mouth shut when you have nothing of substance to add to a discussion.

wow such hostility. You really should calm down. You are not going to win any arguments at all with such language and hatred.

I have done a LOT of dumb things in my life. But to say that driving laws should not matter at night is just dumb. There is a reason that the stop sign is there. No matter if he slowed down to 4mph it really does not matter. HE broke the law and got a ticket for it. He then smart mouthed off to the cop (trying to argue semantics with I'm is not a good idea) so the cop was a prick.

I not even arguing about him getting a ticket. Heck i have got a few myself. What i had to point out is your stupidity at saying that the law should not matter at night and are arguing about it.

but comeon and call me some more names. i feel so left out! heh

He'll probably call you a few more names and then make a reference to how many c0cks he fantisizes you've sucked during your lifetime and then spout off about how we are all a bunch of sheep and that we shouldn't blindly follow the rules. :laugh:

 

[thegimp03]

well, stop next time. can't blame a cop for being curious and wanting to make some extra xmas bucks by busting you for a dui.

 

[myusername]

As a young driver in HS, I slowed for a stop sign at night and blew the rest of the way through, as a kid on a bicycle coming from the left had the same idea. I literally missed him by feet, and never did that again.

Hopefully after he changed his pants he never made the same mistake either.

That said, the last time I was pulled over because the cop didn't like my driving, I hadn't technically broken any laws, but the cop wrote me a ticket for a law I didn't break, because I didn't present the right attitude (apologetic). I had the ticket struck, but quite frankly the judge had a 10x bigger stick up his ass than any cop I've ever seen.

If the other 2 times I've been pulled over hadn't been by genuinely nice, friendly guys, I think the last one would have forced me to adopt a "it's easier to shoot him than deal with his hassle" attitude.

Karma got the evil one's bitch ass somehow though. He missed both of our court dates for medical reasons.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: myusername
As a young driver in HS, I slowed for a stop sign at night and blew the rest of the way through, as a kid on a bicycle coming from the left had the same idea. I literally missed him by feet, and never did that again.

Hopefully after he changed his pants he never made the same mistake either.

That said, the last time I was pulled over because the cop didn't like my driving, I hadn't technically broken any laws, but the cop wrote me a ticket for a law I didn't break, because I didn't present the right attitude (apologetic). I had the ticket struck, but quite frankly the judge had a 10x bigger stick up his ass than any cop I've ever seen.

If the other 2 times I've been pulled over hadn't been by genuinely nice, friendly guys, I think the last one would have forced me to adopt a "it's easier to shoot him than deal with his hassle" attitude.

Karma got the evil one's bitch ass somehow though. He missed both of our court dates for medical reasons.

It's assholes like you that make me glad I own guns.

 

[myusername]

cute kid

 

[toekramp]

fight it

 

[nageov3t]

I failed my first road test because I did 4 rolling stops. after that, I got myself trained to a complete stop all of the time, no matter how late at night or empty the road. I don't always stop and then wait 3-5 seconds before going through the intersection, but I at least come to a complete stop.

how much time does not stopping save you? surely not enough to be worth having the moving violation on your record.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: loki8481
I failed my first road test because I did 4 rolling stops. after that, I got myself trained to a complete stop all of the time, no matter how late at night or empty the road. I don't always stop and then wait 3-5 seconds before going through the intersection, but I at least come to a complete stop.

how much time does not stopping save you? surely not enough to be worth having the moving violation on your record.

That is an excellent point. And, I actually thought about this a couple times today while stopping at stop signs. So, you rolling stoppers save what? One whole second by not coming to a complete stop? What is so fvcking important that you can't spare 1 fvcking second to obey a simple traffic law? Is it worth the 10-15 minutes the cop wastes of your time? God I hope they delay your dumb ass for 2 hours or better yet, find some pot in your car or arrest you for drunk driving!!! Hehehe...that'll teach you!

 

[Alphathree33]

I'm going to chime in here with a few things

- When someone says "rolling through stop signs should be legal", it is not a fair logical argument to say "so we should all be able to run red lights then!??!"

- Laws are made by other human beings. While it doesn't make a lot of sense to break existing laws, it is perfectly acceptable if not encouragable to challenge existing laws in the hope that they will be changed; that's how democracy works.

- The original poster opened himself up to all sorts of attacks from you people by saying "it was late and there were not many cars" which was not a valid point. What he should have said was "rolling through a stop sign still allows me to perform the necessary checks for oncoming traffic, and is entirely different than ignoring a stop sign".

- On the same note, the original poster acknowledged that he did something wrong, but simply felt that he should have been treated to a 'proportional' amount of respect from the police. Calling extra squad cars and doing a search wasn't necessary unless there are details of the situation we don't know about.

 

[johnjbruin]

First Rule of ATOT - never post about getting a ticket.

Everybody here is a perfect driver. They never speed, never have accidents, and are the "model" driver on the road.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: johnjbruin
First Rule of ATOT - never post about getting a ticket.

Everybody here is a perfect driver. They never speed, never have accidents, and are the "model" driver on the road.

Err, no.
Just because we say people shouldn't bitch doesn't mean we're perfect drivers.
For those who do say "serves you right, now STFU and get on with your life", it's probably because any tickets they have got, they have dealt with, and not been obsessed over and whined about.
If you get a ticket, and it's your fault, deal with it, don't come here, whine, and expect to be congratulated.

IF however, it's not a valid ticket (for a legit reason, not "It was late at night, there were no cars"), then come and complain away, because it's a legit complaint, or if you have a query.
But whining about breaking the law and being caught is retarded.

 

[Anonemous]

Originally posted by: johnjbruin
First Rule of ATOT - never post about getting a ticket.

Everybody here is a perfect driver. They never speed, never have accidents, and are the "model" driver on the road.

hey if *the model drivers* ever complain about getting the ticket, we can quote them

 

[Freejack2]

My wife went through that BS here in New York. Cop claimed she didn't stop for the sign when she really did. Luckily they cop never sent us a supporting deposition so we got off on a technicality. Tired of these communities that think they should support their budget with illegitimate traffic tickets. :|

Anyways I'm waiting for the parody thread where someone says they blew through a stop sign at 120 and got into a high speed chase followed by a shootout.