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cavemanmoron

Lifer
Mar 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: Anonemous
Originally posted by: johnjbruin
First Rule of ATOT - never post about getting a ticket.

Everybody here is a perfect driver. They never speed, never have accidents, and are the "model" driver on the road.

hey if *the model drivers* ever complain about getting the ticket, we can quote them

 

StageLeft

No Lifer
Sep 29, 2000
70,150
5
0
That sucks, although I suspect that you were at least in some way suspicious if he did in fact call three other cop cars. Maybe you were nervous or something? If a cop says you blew through a stop sign, you'll gain nothing arguing with him. I yielded once and a cop pulled me over because I didn't yield slow enough (I went through too fast). I said "Sorry!", and got a warning. He would not have given me a warning if I told him he was wrong.

FWIW there are four stop signs in my subdivision and I would say only 2% of people stop for them. People slow, and use them as yield signs, which is perfectly safe in this particular context.
 

TuxDave

Lifer
Oct 8, 2002
10,571
3
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Good. Not to be mean, but I really hate the so called 'California stop' I think people who think they're doing a 'safe' rolling stop don't really know how fast they're going through the stop sign. You say 2-5mph but I would guess it to be 8-12mph. That's from my personal experience.
 

Anonemous

Diamond Member
May 19, 2003
7,361
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Originally posted by: Freejack2
My wife went through that BS here in New York. Cop claimed she didn't stop for the sign when she really did. Luckily they cop never sent us a supporting deposition so we got off on a technicality. Tired of these communities that think they should support their budget with illegitimate traffic tickets. :|

Anyways I'm waiting for the parody thread where someone says they blew through a stop sign at 120 and got into a high speed chase followed by a shootout.

heh you can already do that...


in GTA!
 

bradruth

Lifer
Aug 9, 2002
13,479
2
81
Originally posted by: thegimp03
well, stop next time. can't blame a cop for being curious and wanting to make some extra xmas bucks by busting you for a dui.

Uh...we don't get paid extra for stopping people.


On a side note, these threads are really handy. I can generally get a feeling who the decent people are and who the scumbags are.
 

WT

Diamond Member
Sep 21, 2000
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It coulda been worse ... at least you weren't pulled over in North Carolina, South Carolina, or Georgia. In those states, they ... well ..... ever watch Deliverance ??


J/K, BTW
 

MrScott81

Golden Member
Aug 31, 2001
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0
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Originally posted by: freesia39
Originally posted by: Crazymofo
Give me a break you self-righteous pricks like none of you have never rolled thru a stop sign on a side street in the middle of the night at <10mph. And I don't want to hear one of you snot-nosed punks that still lives at home with mommy say no either, you're not allowed out after dark anyway. If the OP really hasn't ever had a ticket then he should fight this one for sure so that he can keep his record clean. Judges will work with someone that has a clean record... I f'ing hate laws like this its one thing to do it in the middle of the day but at night as long as it wasn't a blatant disregard that ticket has no meaning other than acting as an unfair tax. I can roll up to a stop sign and look both ways more than 5 times each without coming to a complete stop, how is checking for clear 5 times each way not sufficient enough? It?s the middle of the night the amount of traffic on the streets even in large cities is a 10th of normal if not much less. Some traffic laws should have a SOL for night time. I won't even get into the fact that he was treated like an escaped prisoner because he "rolled" thru a stop sign, now had he (and he may have we don?t know for sure) just "blown" thru it would mean a lot more as in drunk idiot.

1. i have never rolled through a stop sign and i'm familiar with california stops, i've lived here all my life
2. i don't live at home with my mommy, and i'm allowed out after dark. in fact after dark i drive SLOWER and more carefully.
3. i've never had a ticket, and i've never been pulled over in my life. i also stop at yellow lights, stop when i see pedestrians crossing at crosswalks, and drive the speed limit.
4. just because you can do it doesn't mean you should. i predict many angry posters mocking you for being an idiot.

he was treated like an escaped prisoner because he was being an ass to the cop. if he apologized he might have gotten off.

Excuse me, but when did I say that I was being an ass to the cop? I was more polite to the cop than I am to my own mother when he pulled me over. I never said one that that could be taken the wrong way and I followed his directions and instructions very clearly. I am not saying I don't deserve a ticket anyways, but I didn't just get the ticket because I was an @$$ to the cop. Let's try not to assume things we don't know.

To answer a few more questions....
I am white.
How did I not see the cop? Easily. The intersection I was at the cop was to the right and up the hill. There's no way to see him even if I would have done a complete stop, unless I did a complete stop after the actual stop sign.
Also, I would like to mention the car I was driving was a new Ford f-150, so I guess I should have said truck

 

MrScott81

Golden Member
Aug 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: johnjbruin
First Rule of ATOT - never post about getting a ticket.

Everybody here is a perfect driver. They never speed, never have accidents, and are the "model" driver on the road.

Err, no.
Just because we say people shouldn't bitch doesn't mean we're perfect drivers.
For those who do say "serves you right, now STFU and get on with your life", it's probably because any tickets they have got, they have dealt with, and not been obsessed over and whined about.
If you get a ticket, and it's your fault, deal with it, don't come here, whine, and expect to be congratulated.

IF however, it's not a valid ticket (for a legit reason, not "It was late at night, there were no cars"), then come and complain away, because it's a legit complaint, or if you have a query.
But whining about breaking the law and being caught is retarded.

Does my post come across as whiny? If so that was not my intention. My main reason for posting is to get some advice on what I should do, since I have never received a ticket before. I also wanted to know how much of a fine to expect.
 

MrScott81

Golden Member
Aug 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: spidey07
I corrected him by saying that I didn't stop completely, but by no means did I "blow through" the stop sign.

and that was your fatal downfall.

You corrected and disrespected him, probably had an attitude problem, so he gave you the racket instead of just letting you off.

Let me clarify this. I told him I admitted that I didn't stop completely, and I agreed with him that I ran the stop sign, but I did want to say that I didn't blow through it. I said this in a very polite tone too, as I have mentioned above. There's no reason for him to think I was disrespecting him.
 

myusername

Diamond Member
Jun 8, 2003
5,046
0
0
Originally posted by: MrScott81
Let me clarify this. I told him I admitted that I didn't stop completely, and I agreed with him that I ran the stop sign, but I did want to say that I didn't blow through it. I said this in a very polite tone too, as I have mentioned above. There's no reason for him to think I was disrespecting him.

You misunderstand the nature of policemen. Disagreeing with in the slightest, suggesting that anything might have possibly happened even slightly different than he believes, or trying to describe something in shades of gray ... These are all disrepecting the policeman.

Policemen are not terribly intelligent, they don't have a law degree, and they don't like people who give them brain cramps. I'm not saying it should be any other way - they generally get the job done, and I do think they are necessary for society, but if he thinks he saw it happen, it happened, and the only thing you can do about it is hope you get a good laywer and a friendly judge.
 

remagavon

Platinum Member
Jun 16, 2003
2,516
0
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Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
Originally posted by: Crazymofo
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: Crazymofo
Give me a break you self-righteous pricks like none of you have never rolled thru a stop sign on a side street in the middle of the night at <10mph. And I don't want to hear one of you snot-nosed punks that still lives at home with mommy say no either, you're not allowed out after dark anyway. If the OP really hasn't ever had a ticket then he should fight this one for sure so that he can keep his record clean. Judges will work with someone that has a clean record... I f'ing hate laws like this its one thing to do it in the middle of the day but at night as long as it wasn't a blatant disregard that ticket has no meaning other than acting as an unfair tax. I can roll up to a stop sign and look both ways more than 5 times each without coming to a complete stop, how is checking for clear 5 times each way not sufficient enough? It?s the middle of the night the amount of traffic on the streets even in large cities is a 10th of normal if not much less. Some traffic laws should have a SOL for night time. I won't even get into the fact that he was treated like an escaped prisoner because he "rolled" thru a stop sign, now had he (and he may have we don?t know for sure) just "blown" thru it would mean a lot more as in drunk idiot.
So we should be allowed to drive through red lights when its late at night now? Give me a fvcking break. :roll:

Find me one spot in that post that I said ONE FVCKING THING ABOUT LIGHTS and I'll have you knighted by the Queen of England.

Give me a fvcking break, sheep.

Time for your Lithium yet today?

ROFL, he's such a moron.
 

Freejack2

Diamond Member
Dec 31, 2000
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Originally posted by: bradruth
Originally posted by: thegimp03
well, stop next time. can't blame a cop for being curious and wanting to make some extra xmas bucks by busting you for a dui.

Uh...we don't get paid extra for stopping people.


On a side note, these threads are really handy. I can generally get a feeling who the decent people are and who the scumbags are.

I can't speak for other people but I do happen to have respect for police officers. They may get paid well but thats because every time they get out of their car for what should be a routine stop they have to wonder if someone in that car has a gun and is going to try and shoot them.

When I've been pulled over, I pull over as soon as safely possible and have my license and registration ready. I'm polite and don't give the cop a hassle. To be honest the cop giving my wife a ticket for allegedly running a stop sign is the first time I've ever ran into any real problems with the police being less than honest. It really suprised me.
 

myusername

Diamond Member
Jun 8, 2003
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Originally posted by: bradruth
Originally posted by: myusername
Policemen are not terribly intelligent
Excuse me?
Sorry, did I disrespect you and give you brain cramps?

I'm not saying the OP or I are smarter than the average policeman, simply that policemen in large will not be significantly more intelligent than average.

By the way, what was your IQ score?
 

bradruth

Lifer
Aug 9, 2002
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Originally posted by: myusername
Originally posted by: bradruth
Originally posted by: myusername
Policemen are not terribly intelligent
Excuse me?
Sorry, did I disrespect you and give you brain cramps?

I'm not saying the OP or I are smarter than the average policeman, simply that policemen in large will not be significantly more intelligent than average.

By the way, what was your IQ score?

It's very open-minded and understanding of you to take one Department's policy and apply it in a sweeping generalization like that. Bravo.

IQ tests aren't administered in the testing process, since there are several other tests (written, physical, oral, etc.) designed to gauge various aptitudes required for the job. I've taken a few "IQ tests" before, but I'm not about to gloat about my results. I have more important things in my life that show who I am and what I've accomplished, so I don't need to lean on the results of a number of tests as a crutch to make people think I'm worth something. Maybe you'll realize that someday too, junior.
 

myusername

Diamond Member
Jun 8, 2003
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so you are agreeing with me, but reserving the right to be bitter - or are you disagreeing with me, but unwilling or unable to counter my allegation?
I'm no pinnacle of intelligence, and I got royally pwnt in a recent thread about marijuana legalization.
Doncha wanna
pwn
me?
 

bradruth

Lifer
Aug 9, 2002
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Originally posted by: myusername
so you are agreeing with me, but reserving the right to be bitter - or are you disagreeing with me, but unwilling or unable to counter my allegation?

I don't know, what do YOU think?
 

bradruth

Lifer
Aug 9, 2002
13,479
2
81
Originally posted by: myusername
Well fine. I looked for myself, but all I could find was this

Originally posted by: bradruth
I don't know, what do YOU think?
I think you are a cop. Not a lot of leeway there.

Here's an excerpt from your article...

"Police officers, like anyone else, can be resistant to change," said Chief Berger.
"On the other hand, the average IQ of police officers is 120. They can be very
creative if they are challenged and given an environment where they can thrive."

So either you can admit you were wrong and we can move on, or you can tell me what standard you use for people being considered intelligent.
 

BigJ

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
21,330
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Originally posted by: bradruth
Originally posted by: myusername
Well fine. I looked for myself, but all I could find was this

Originally posted by: bradruth
I don't know, what do YOU think?
I think you are a cop. Not a lot of leeway there.

Here's an excerpt from your article...

"Police officers, like anyone else, can be resistant to change," said Chief Berger.
"On the other hand, the average IQ of police officers is 120. They can be very
creative if they are challenged and given an environment where they can thrive."

So either you can admit you were wrong and we can move on, or you can tell me what standard you use for people being considered intelligent.

Haha damn. Made a fool out of him with his own article. For what it is worth, police officers around here are required to have at least 2 years of college or an associates degree, I forget which one.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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I once got pulled over for going through a light that was, and I quote "nine-tenths red" (as in it was yellow, but was close to changing). I was driving a 78 Jeep Wagoneer that I'd just gotten two weeks earlier (so I was still getting used to it), and it had been lightly snowing for about 30-45 minutes, so I just told him I wasn't sure I'd be able to stop in time and not be in the intersection. Didn't even really get a warning.
 

bradruth

Lifer
Aug 9, 2002
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Originally posted by: BigJ
Haha damn. Made a fool out of him with his own article. For what it is worth, police officers around here are required to have at least 2 years of college or an associates degree, I forget which one.

My Dept. requires 2 years of college as well, but the majority of Officers have bachelors degrees. A few have masters.
 

wischeez

Golden Member
Jan 31, 2004
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Originally posted by: myusername
Originally posted by: MrScott81
Let me clarify this. I told him I admitted that I didn't stop completely, and I agreed with him that I ran the stop sign, but I did want to say that I didn't blow through it. I said this in a very polite tone too, as I have mentioned above. There's no reason for him to think I was disrespecting him.

You misunderstand the nature of policemen. Disagreeing with in the slightest, suggesting that anything might have possibly happened even slightly different than he believes, or trying to describe something in shades of gray ... These are all disrepecting the policeman.

Policemen are not terribly intelligent, they don't have a law degree, and they don't like people who give them brain cramps. I'm not saying it should be any other way - they generally get the job done, and I do think they are necessary for society, but if he thinks he saw it happen, it happened, and the only thing you can do about it is hope you get a good laywer and a friendly judge.


So, you're saying my Dad isn't real intelligent either? He's a Deputy Sheriff by the way.......

 
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