Got fired today :(

[Shyatic]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I'm just glad I work for a major company that knows its best to let people be at home sick than at work sick.

Yea my last job was with a huge firm... and if I said I was sick... I was sick and nobody bothered me. Just weird how things work I suppose.

 

[randay]

Looks like this is a lesson to learn the hard way. Perhaps you can get your job back if you go and explain that you didn't know to get a note. Have them contact your doctor and be honest and maybe they'll give you another chance.

Like others have said its not a "high-school" thing. At least I hope next time you will break that ideal and get the darn note!

 

[Shyatic]

Honestly, I think that using a sick day is kind of a cop-out for my job... I'm Muslim and over the last month was Ramadan... I had asked for the ability to leave a little early (sun down) so that I could open my fast with my family. It wasn't a crazy request, and I had asked a month earlier.. it was granted and no problems were had.

Ramadan ended with Eid on this past Monday. Throughout the month, one of my managers (one of three) had continually been telling me it's no big deal to work late, and that he really needed me. I explained to him that I had a religious obligation and secondly, that he had understood when I told him a month earlier about it. I had been finishing my work on time, getting my projects done and my weekly tasks completed. That was kind of the agreement.

Anyway, shortly after Eid (monday) I got all kinds of sarcasm from my manager about the past month, and then the dismissal today. I honestly think that the sick day was rather a poor excuse to cover for them not liking to adhere to a religious schedule that I had. Because an employer can fire me for pretty much anything, except following my religion.

*shrug* I guess I'll see what happens. I will look for a job first, and get settled and then talk to an attorney about the situation. Besides, I wouldn't even sue for money, just to ensure that it doesn't happen to anybody else. I'm not too bad off I suppose... things could be worse.

 

[mugs]

The flu goes away after 2 days?

 

[Shyatic]

Originally posted by: mugs
The flu goes away after 2 days?

I was still sick when I went into work on day 3... I already had pushed my luck I felt. :\

 

[randay]

the note, get the note!

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: Scribe
Honestly, I think that using a sick day is kind of a cop-out for my job... I'm Muslim and over the last month was Ramadan... I had asked for the ability to leave a little early (sun down) so that I could open my fast with my family. It wasn't a crazy request, and I had asked a month earlier.. it was granted and no problems were had.

Ramadan ended with Eid on this past Monday. Throughout the month, one of my managers (one of three) had continually been telling me it's no big deal to work late, and that he really needed me. I explained to him that I had a religious obligation and secondly, that he had understood when I told him a month earlier about it. I had been finishing my work on time, getting my projects done and my weekly tasks completed. That was kind of the agreement.

Anyway, shortly after Eid (monday) I got all kinds of sarcasm from my manager about the past month, and then the dismissal today. I honestly think that the sick day was rather a poor excuse to cover for them not liking to adhere to a religious schedule that I had. Because an employer can fire me for pretty much anything, except following my religion.

*shrug* I guess I'll see what happens. I will look for a job first, and get settled and then talk to an attorney about the situation. Besides, I wouldn't even sue for money, just to ensure that it doesn't happen to anybody else. I'm not too bad off I suppose... things could be worse.

man you got fired for being half assed during ramadan, not because you were sick.

btw what profession is this? seriously, they may have broken laws by firing you (and you're telling the truth). find a lawyer.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Originally posted by: Scribe
Just wanted to vent... I came from my last job... same position (more or less) and I got employee of the year, to the first job I've ever been fired from. There is a single reason I can understand on their end, the rest well... whatever.

I guess that if you call in sick, you really should be working. It was one of the reasons I was terminated. I called in sick and couldn't finish a project on time. It was given to me the day before. Ah well... c'est la vie.

Off to job hunting! I'm sure there are bigger and better things on the horizon. Anybody have advice on how to state my position when I'm applying for a new job? Never been in this situation before, so I am really not sure... I think that potential employers will look down at my being fired so... oh well.

Thanks for letting me vent.

On fture interviews:

Jsut tell them what you told us.

You were assigned a short term project on day 1.
day 2 you called in sick
Day 3, you were fired for not getting the project assigned on day 1 finished on time.

If you don't get hired after saying this, do you really want to work for them?

 

[Tobolo]

Originally posted by: Scribe

Originally posted by: tweakmm
Look on the bright side, you can get really hammered tonight and not have to wake up early tommorow.

I don't drink :\

Time to start :/

 

[funboy6942]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I'm just glad I work for a major company that knows its best to let people be at home sick than at work sick.

Yeah just wait though when the company down sizes and lays you off with no real notice.
<-----Happend 3 times (once on christmas eve, with a major R&R company, of all days to be told your laid off. marry fvcking christmas) with companies that raved when hired how well they were doing and how they havent had any troubles at all for many years. Its like everything is going great you feel great, you like the people around you, then, WHAM. Guess what your fvcked, oh and thaks for your many years of loyal, never late, always on time, havent been sick one day service. But good news is you've been laid off so you can collect unemployment. Good luck making on $350 a week when you used to make $2,000 a week. Hope you didnt have many bills Ho Ho Ho, where would you like us to send your christmas gift? WHICH BTW I still havent recieved!

OP you were fired and should of went straight to the unemployment place to get that started right away. You were fired so it wont be too hard for you to get it. If you tell them why you were fired and bring a note from the doctor showing that you went to see him, like you say you did, then it will be an open and shut case for you to get it.

 

[JEDI]

Originally posted by: Scribe
Just wanted to vent... I came from my last job... same position (more or less) and I got employee of the year, to the first job I've ever been fired from. There is a single reason I can understand on their end, the rest well... whatever.

I guess that if you call in sick, you really should be working. It was one of the reasons I was terminated. I called in sick and couldn't finish a project on time. It was given to me the day before. Ah well... c'est la vie.

Off to job hunting! I'm sure there are bigger and better things on the horizon. Anybody have advice on how to state my position when I'm applying for a new job? Never been in this situation before, so I am really not sure... I think that potential employers will look down at my being fired so... oh well.

Thanks for letting me vent.

u really dont want to work for a stupid compant like that anyway

 

[Nutdotnet]

Dude...go get yourself a lawyer...you may have a case.

National Orgin Discrimnation? Possibly
Race Discrimination? Possibly

What did your company's policies state regarding Religious Accomodation if anything?

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Dude...go get yourself a lawyer...you may have a case.

National Orgin Discrimnation? Possibly
Race Discrimination? Possibly

What did your company's policies state regarding Religious Accomodation if anything?

he may have screwed his chances by not getting the note as proof that he was actually sick. if his company requires it. in which case if he did get the note he'd probably still be employed?

 

[Shyatic]

I forget exactly, but I am sure they comply by whatever NY state law is, which allows me to practice my religion as long as it doesn't cause an undue hardship on the business. Of course, they won't say that, they will say I'm incompetent and that's why they fired me.

*shrug*

 

[Shyatic]

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Dude...go get yourself a lawyer...you may have a case.

National Orgin Discrimnation? Possibly
Race Discrimination? Possibly

What did your company's policies state regarding Religious Accomodation if anything?

he may have screwed his chances by not getting the note as proof that he was actually sick. if his company requires it. in which case if he did get the note he'd probably still be employed?

As I've read online... doctor's notes have little bearing in a court case, and even if I had provided it, they can fire me for that just the same.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Scribe
Honestly, I think that using a sick day is kind of a cop-out for my job... I'm Muslim and over the last month was Ramadan... I had asked for the ability to leave a little early (sun down) so that I could open my fast with my family. It wasn't a crazy request, and I had asked a month earlier.. it was granted and no problems were had.

Ramadan ended with Eid on this past Monday. Throughout the month, one of my managers (one of three) had continually been telling me it's no big deal to work late, and that he really needed me. I explained to him that I had a religious obligation and secondly, that he had understood when I told him a month earlier about it. I had been finishing my work on time, getting my projects done and my weekly tasks completed. That was kind of the agreement.

Anyway, shortly after Eid (monday) I got all kinds of sarcasm from my manager about the past month, and then the dismissal today. I honestly think that the sick day was rather a poor excuse to cover for them not liking to adhere to a religious schedule that I had. Because an employer can fire me for pretty much anything, except following my religion.

*shrug* I guess I'll see what happens. I will look for a job first, and get settled and then talk to an attorney about the situation. Besides, I wouldn't even sue for money, just to ensure that it doesn't happen to anybody else. I'm not too bad off I suppose... things could be worse.

Now THIS is more relevant info. You may well have a legal case against them. Document EVERYTHING.

 

[Shyatic]

Additionally... I did write a draft letter to my boss about the treatment I was receiving with regard to my religion... never really sent it though. I saved a copy locally and also sent it out to co-workers to ask their advice on the letter. It was essentially that my manager was putting strain on me by having me choose between religion and extra work.

They don't know that there are extra copies of the email floating around, and one of my coworkers will be sure to keep it safe in their mailbox for evidence if it ever came down to that... *shrug*

I am not sure whether I should go to the EEOC or not. Right now though, my priority is to find a job.

 

[altonb1]

Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Hire a lawyer and sue your former employer.

If you went to the doctor, you have medical records on file showing you were there. Simply go back to the doctor's office, explain what hbappened, and get a note showing you were under doctor's care. THEN SUE THEM. I think I would.

 

[Uhtrinity]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie

Originally posted by: Scribe

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: Scribe

Originally posted by: randay
Well.... were you actually sick? I dont get it. if you were actually sick I don't think they should fire you.

Yes, migraine with the flu. I was out for two days..

did you go to the doctor and get a note?

No... I'm not in high school. I went to the doctor, he gave me some OTC meds and I kinda knocked out for that day. I was drowsy all day.

If you go to the doc, get a note saying you were there and what is wrong. Have the doc put down that he prescribed a few days of bedrest. .... ALWAYS.

It is illegal to fire someone with a doctor's note.

Not in a right to work state. Here you can be released from employment for any reason. Not sure if his state is right to work or not.

 

[MixMasterTang]

Originally posted by: mugs
The flu goes away after 2 days?

Generally the worst part of a flu when you are contagious and carrying a fever only lasts for less than 48 hours if being treated properly. Althought you may not feel 100% I would see no reason why you shouldn't go back to work after the fever has passed.

 

[akshatp]

Dude you are in America. The word is SUE

 

[spanky]

hope this helps

 

[BoomerD]

Doctor's note won't stop you from getting fired. There's no law prohibiting that. If you miss work, you can be fired. Plain and simple. Do MOST companies have a policy that covers sick leave? Sure they do, but NOT because the law requires them to...
OP, not sure if you could win a case based on religious discrimination or not...It would be worth talking to a good EEOC lawyer, but definitely, go find a different job anyway. IF the law forced them to re-hire you, then they'd just be looking for reasons to let you go after than anyway.

NY U/I law says :
3. Misconduct. No days of total unemployment shall be deemed to occur after a claimant lost employment through misconduct in connection with his or her employment until he or she has subsequently worked in employment and earned remuneration at least equal to five times his or her weekly benefit rate.

Discharged/Fired You were discharged or fired for a violation of company policy, such as absenteeism, theft, insubordination, drug or alcohol use or a criminal act.

Discharged/Unable to Meet Standards You were discharged or fired because you were unable to meet employer performance or production standards, or you were unable to meet employer's qualifications for the job .

Here's NY's poster on employment rights.
http://www.dhr.state.ny.us/pdf/NYS%20Human%20Rights%20poster.pdf

 

[bctbct]

Originally posted by: Uhtrinity

Originally posted by: KarenMarie

Originally posted by: Scribe

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: Scribe

Originally posted by: randay
Well.... were you actually sick? I dont get it. if you were actually sick I don't think they should fire you.

Yes, migraine with the flu. I was out for two days..

did you go to the doctor and get a note?

No... I'm not in high school. I went to the doctor, he gave me some OTC meds and I kinda knocked out for that day. I was drowsy all day.

If you go to the doc, get a note saying you were there and what is wrong. Have the doc put down that he prescribed a few days of bedrest. .... ALWAYS.

It is illegal to fire someone with a doctor's note.

Not in a right to work state. Here you can be released from employment for any reason. Not sure if his state is right to work or not.

Are you implying that OP can be fired in reltalliation for a religious observance and not have to justify their dismissal because he lives in a right to work state?

Not to mention if OP called in sick and then produces a note from his doctor that he did indeed seek medical treatment.

Dont confuse a company that is unhappy with your performance telling you one day that they no longer need your services letting you go without specific cause becasue it is a right to work state, with firing you for unjust cause.

Right to work is not a defense for a company firing an employee for legitimate absenses.

If the supervisor did indeed harrass OP, if there is indeed internal email discussions about OP being harrassed, my crystal ball says

OPs boss will be fired, OP will receive back pay, OP will receive his job back or negotiate a settlement when he tells this company that he no longer wishes to return to work.

OP, file a complaint with the dept of labor. Consult a lawyer if you dont get the proper response from your company.

File for unemployment there are situations where you will not be denied benefits when you quit or get fired.

 

[BoomerD]

Right to Work has nothing to do with any of this...
The Right to Work (for less ) laws only cover union membership. Basically, if a company has a union contract, and an employee doesn't want to join the union, he/she doesn't have to, yet is still entitled to some union representation...we call them freeloaders...
If the state is an "at will" state, then they can be let go/fired for any reason (union contracts can prevail in this however in a state that is not Right to Work (for less)