Got my x1800xt!!

[bjc112]

Got my DFI board and got windows loaded late last night..

Once I get out of work today I will try and match that OC..

Awesome results so far..

Unless the 7800GTX 512 smokes it, I will still the with x1800xt..

 

[terentenet]

Originally posted by: bjc112
Got my DFI board and got windows loaded late last night..

Once I get out of work today I will try and match that OC..

Awesome results so far..

Unless the 7800GTX 512 smokes it, I will still the with x1800xt..

First, let me congratulate you on your purchase. It's indeed a good card. Got my 7800GTX as soon as it came out, so we're both early with our purchases.
All the tests out there show the 256MB 7800GTX on par with the 512MB X1800XT until 4AA/16AF is activated and at high res, where XT has the lead. That's because of the memory bottleneck.
So, as to raw power, I believe the 24 pipelines 7800GTX is the monster. I also believe the 512MB GTX version will clearly win this one, especially since it's a rumor that's gonna be clocked at 550/1800 using Samsung 1.26ns memory chips.

 

[Elfear]

Originally posted by: terentenet

Originally posted by: bjc112
Got my DFI board and got windows loaded late last night..

Once I get out of work today I will try and match that OC..

Awesome results so far..

Unless the 7800GTX 512 smokes it, I will still the with x1800xt..

First, let me congratulate you on your purchase. It's indeed a good card. Got my 7800GTX as soon as it came out, so we're both early with our purchases.
All the tests out there show the 256MB 7800GTX on par with the 512MB X1800XT until 4AA/16AF is activated and at high res, where XT has the lead. That's because of the memory bottleneck.
So, as to raw power, I believe the 24 pipelines 7800GTX is the monster. I also believe the 512MB GTX version will clearly win this one, especially since it's a rumor that's gonna be clocked at 550/1800 using Samsung 1.26ns memory chips.

I guess we'll have to wait and see. High res with AA/AF enabled is really where these cards shine so that's probably where they should be compared.

I think you meant 1.1ns Samsung chips. Good 1.26ns chips are capable of running at 1800MHz, but I doubt the manufacturers would run them on the ragged edge like that

 

[terentenet]

NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX card with 512 MB is expected next Monday 14th of November and will be priced at $649.

550/1700 they say. Sounds preety official too. Others say this will be a limited edition chip, everybody agrees this will blow x1800xt away?

Details

 

[terentenet]

Originally posted by: Elfear

Originally posted by: terentenet

Originally posted by: bjc112
Got my DFI board and got windows loaded late last night..

Once I get out of work today I will try and match that OC..

Awesome results so far..

Unless the 7800GTX 512 smokes it, I will still the with x1800xt..

First, let me congratulate you on your purchase. It's indeed a good card. Got my 7800GTX as soon as it came out, so we're both early with our purchases.
All the tests out there show the 256MB 7800GTX on par with the 512MB X1800XT until 4AA/16AF is activated and at high res, where XT has the lead. That's because of the memory bottleneck.
So, as to raw power, I believe the 24 pipelines 7800GTX is the monster. I also believe the 512MB GTX version will clearly win this one, especially since it's a rumor that's gonna be clocked at 550/1800 using Samsung 1.26ns memory chips.

I guess we'll have to wait and see. High res with AA/AF enabled is really where these cards shine so that's probably where they should be compared.

I think you meant 1.1ns Samsung chips. Good 1.26ns chips are capable of running at 1800MHz, but I doubt the manufacturers would run them on the ragged edge like that

Elfear, you're right, 1.1ns mem chips from samsung.

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: terentenet
NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX card with 512 MB is expected next Monday 14th of November and will be priced at $649.

550/1700 they say. Sounds preety official too. Others say this will be a limited edition chip, everybody agrees this will blow x1800xt away?

Details

I'd like to see if it can blow away a 730mhz XT. LOL.

 

[Snakexor]

120w of power, holy crap

 

[terentenet]

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: terentenet
NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX card with 512 MB is expected next Monday 14th of November and will be priced at $649.

550/1700 they say. Sounds preety official too. Others say this will be a limited edition chip, everybody agrees this will blow x1800xt away?

Details

I'd like to see if it can blow away a 730mhz XT. LOL.

If a 430/1200 GTX is on par with the 625/1500 XT (90% of the benchmarks are on reference GTX designs, allthough, even my GTX runs 450/1250 with an official BIOS from Leadtek), I am preety damn confident a 550/1700 GTX will wipe the floor with a 730MHz XT. Plus, 730MHz XT is highly overclocked, while 550/1700 is a stock GTX512. Overclock that one, up to 625/1850 and as a nVidia man said, ATi is no competition for now. Perhaps when R580 will be out, if it will be out. My oppinion.
Suggestions?

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: terentenet

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: terentenet
NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX card with 512 MB is expected next Monday 14th of November and will be priced at $649.

550/1700 they say. Sounds preety official too. Others say this will be a limited edition chip, everybody agrees this will blow x1800xt away?

Details

I'd like to see if it can blow away a 730mhz XT. LOL.

If a 430/1200 GTX is on par with the 625/1500 XT (90% of the benchmarks are on reference GTX designs, allthough, even my GTX runs 450/1250 with an official BIOS from Leadtek), I am preety damn confident a 550/1700 GTX will wipe the floor with a 730MHz XT. Plus, 730MHz XT is highly overclocked, while 550/1700 is a stock GTX512. Overclock that one, up to 625/1850 and as a nVidia man said, ATi is no competition for now. Perhaps when R580 will be out, if it will be out. My oppinion.
Suggestions?

I think you are correct..

If the GTX releases at those speeds, I will most likely return my card and go for the GTX, however, until we see the official speeds and the benchmarks, i'll continue to hug my x1800!



Leaving work in about one hour, let the overclocking begin!

 

[phr0m]

oooooo sh!t cant wait to see that thing fly

 

[Elfear]

Originally posted by: terentenet

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: terentenet
NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX card with 512 MB is expected next Monday 14th of November and will be priced at $649.

550/1700 they say. Sounds preety official too. Others say this will be a limited edition chip, everybody agrees this will blow x1800xt away?

Details

I'd like to see if it can blow away a 730mhz XT. LOL.

If a 430/1200 GTX is on par with the 625/1500 XT (90% of the benchmarks are on reference GTX designs, allthough, even my GTX runs 450/1250 with an official BIOS from Leadtek), I am preety damn confident a 550/1700 GTX will wipe the floor with a 730MHz XT. Plus, 730MHz XT is highly overclocked, while 550/1700 is a stock GTX512. Overclock that one, up to 625/1850 and as a nVidia man said, ATi is no competition for now. Perhaps when R580 will be out, if it will be out. My oppinion.
Suggestions?

Hmm. I don't really agree with you about the stock clocked GTX keeping up with the X1800XT. Almost all the reviews I've seen concluded that the X1800XT is the faster card.

3DMark05 isn't as good as real world gaming but it does reflect a card's relative performance with respect to games and when the stock 7800GTX scores ~7700 and the stock X1800XT scores ~9100, I wouldn't say that they are on par.

I'm really curious how Nvidia's 512MB beast turns out. I just can't see a refresh being so much faster than it's big brother, like some peope are saying. It will undoubtably be fast but I don't think it will cause games to come up with an error message saying "maximum allowed fps have been exceeded" or cause your monitor to do the lightspeed blur effect whenever you start up your rig.

 

[Griswold]

Originally posted by: terentenet
[If a 430/1200 GTX is on par with the 625/1500 XT (90% of the benchmarks are on reference GTX designs, allthough, even my GTX runs 450/1250 with an official BIOS from Leadtek), I am preety damn confident a 550/1700 GTX will wipe the floor with a 730MHz XT. Plus, 730MHz XT is highly overclocked, while 550/1700 is a stock GTX512. Overclock that one, up to 625/1850 and as a nVidia man said, ATi is no competition for now. Perhaps when R580 will be out, if it will be out. My oppinion.
Suggestions?

Suggestion: Wait until you see the specs for real.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: terentenet

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: terentenet
NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX card with 512 MB is expected next Monday 14th of November and will be priced at $649.

550/1700 they say. Sounds preety official too. Others say this will be a limited edition chip, everybody agrees this will blow x1800xt away?

Details

I'd like to see if it can blow away a 730mhz XT. LOL.

If a 430/1200 GTX is on par with the 625/1500 XT (90% of the benchmarks are on reference GTX designs, allthough, even my GTX runs 450/1250 with an official BIOS from Leadtek), I am preety damn confident a 550/1700 GTX will wipe the floor with a 730MHz XT. Plus, 730MHz XT is highly overclocked, while 550/1700 is a stock GTX512. Overclock that one, up to 625/1850 and as a nVidia man said, ATi is no competition for now. Perhaps when R580 will be out, if it will be out. My oppinion.
Suggestions?

i doubt that there will be that much head room left on the 7800 GTX 512

 

[terentenet]

Originally posted by: Elfear

Originally posted by: terentenet

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: terentenet
NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX card with 512 MB is expected next Monday 14th of November and will be priced at $649.

550/1700 they say. Sounds preety official too. Others say this will be a limited edition chip, everybody agrees this will blow x1800xt away?

Details

I'd like to see if it can blow away a 730mhz XT. LOL.

If a 430/1200 GTX is on par with the 625/1500 XT (90% of the benchmarks are on reference GTX designs, allthough, even my GTX runs 450/1250 with an official BIOS from Leadtek), I am preety damn confident a 550/1700 GTX will wipe the floor with a 730MHz XT. Plus, 730MHz XT is highly overclocked, while 550/1700 is a stock GTX512. Overclock that one, up to 625/1850 and as a nVidia man said, ATi is no competition for now. Perhaps when R580 will be out, if it will be out. My oppinion.
Suggestions?

Hmm. I don't really agree with you about the stock clocked GTX keeping up with the X1800XT. Almost all the reviews I've seen concluded that the X1800XT is the faster card.

3DMark05 isn't as good as real world gaming but it does reflect a card's relative performance with respect to games and when the stock 7800GTX scores ~7700 and the stock X1800XT scores ~9100, I wouldn't say that they are on par.

I'm really curious how Nvidia's 512MB beast turns out. I just can't see a refresh being so much faster than it's big brother, like some peope are saying. It will undoubtably be fast but I don't think it will cause games to come up with an error message saying "maximum allowed fps have been exceeded" or cause your monitor to do the lightspeed blur effect whenever you start up your rig.

Check my system, in the signature. I get 8250 in 2005 and I only have a humble 7800GTX running 450/1250, opposed to Leadtek's Extreme, BFG's or XFX's 490/1300 cards. I also run a midstream processor, Ath64 3200+ (2009MHz).
7800GTX's clocked at 490/1300 get easily up to 10000 on a high end computer (FX processor).
I am preety much held back by the processor, I am sure that if I overclock this processor to 2400MHz, I could break the 9000 barrier.
GTX and XT are on par to me. I saw many reviews from different sites and there are 2 kinds of sites. Those that show the truth and the cards are on par, GTX wins some, XT wins some, and there are some others that love ATI and show me that FEAR test over and over and explain how XT is the better choice for FEAR.
The point is that XT WAS better in FEAR Demo. In the final retail version, both GTX and the XT have the same FPS.

http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2575 - non biased

The point is, XT is better now, because of the 512MB that helps when all the eye candy is turned on.
I'd like to know whether you believe the 512MB GTX will get better fps than XT.

 

[bjc112]

Uh oh,

I am wondering If I have a bad card..

Ran 3dmark @ 650/800 and had artifacts galore.. Rebooted, went to stock speeds and it still happened!



Instantly, not even through a few tests..

 

[Elfear]

Originally posted by: terentenet

Check my system, in the signature. I get 8250 in 2005 and I only have a humble 7800GTX running 450/1250, opposed to Leadtek's Extreme, BFG's or XFX's 490/1300 cards. I also run a midstream processor, Ath64 3200+ (2009MHz).
7800GTX's clocked at 490/1300 get easily up to 10000 on a high end computer (FX processor).
I am preety much held back by the processor, I am sure that if I overclock this processor to 2400MHz, I could break the 9000 barrier.
GTX and XT are on par to me. I saw many reviews from different sites and there are 2 kinds of sites. Those that show the truth and the cards are on par, GTX wins some, XT wins some, and there are some others that love ATI and show me that FEAR test over and over and explain how XT is the better choice for FEAR.
The point is that XT WAS better in FEAR Demo. In the final retail version, both GTX and the XT have the same FPS.

http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2575 - non biased

The point is, XT is better now, because of the 512MB that helps when all the eye candy is turned on.
I'd like to know whether you believe the 512MB GTX will get better fps than XT.

Lol. Okay, first if you think a 7800GTX@490/1300 will break 10,000 in 3DMark05 than you've been looking at some fake benchies (assuming they weren't using an LOD tweak). The cpu generally doesn't make that much difference in 3DMark05. My 7800GTX@525/1350 and cpu@2.85GHz gets ~9100.

Second, just because many many reviews showed the X1800XT coming out on top, doesn't mean they are ATI biased. Most of the reviews I read were from respected sites, not raving ATI fanboys.

I'm not sure how the 512MB 7800GTX will come out against the X1800XT. From the clock speeds being passed around it looks like it should beat it. My personal opinion is that stock the 7800GTX will perform better but once oced they will be fairly even. I guess we'll see in the next couple days.

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: terentenet

Originally posted by: Elfear

Originally posted by: terentenet

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: terentenet
NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX card with 512 MB is expected next Monday 14th of November and will be priced at $649.

550/1700 they say. Sounds preety official too. Others say this will be a limited edition chip, everybody agrees this will blow x1800xt away?

Details

I'd like to see if it can blow away a 730mhz XT. LOL.

If a 430/1200 GTX is on par with the 625/1500 XT (90% of the benchmarks are on reference GTX designs, allthough, even my GTX runs 450/1250 with an official BIOS from Leadtek), I am preety damn confident a 550/1700 GTX will wipe the floor with a 730MHz XT. Plus, 730MHz XT is highly overclocked, while 550/1700 is a stock GTX512. Overclock that one, up to 625/1850 and as a nVidia man said, ATi is no competition for now. Perhaps when R580 will be out, if it will be out. My oppinion.
Suggestions?

Hmm. I don't really agree with you about the stock clocked GTX keeping up with the X1800XT. Almost all the reviews I've seen concluded that the X1800XT is the faster card.

3DMark05 isn't as good as real world gaming but it does reflect a card's relative performance with respect to games and when the stock 7800GTX scores ~7700 and the stock X1800XT scores ~9100, I wouldn't say that they are on par.

I'm really curious how Nvidia's 512MB beast turns out. I just can't see a refresh being so much faster than it's big brother, like some peope are saying. It will undoubtably be fast but I don't think it will cause games to come up with an error message saying "maximum allowed fps have been exceeded" or cause your monitor to do the lightspeed blur effect whenever you start up your rig.

Check my system, in the signature. I get 8250 in 2005 and I only have a humble 7800GTX running 450/1250, opposed to Leadtek's Extreme, BFG's or XFX's 490/1300 cards. I also run a midstream processor, Ath64 3200+ (2009MHz).
7800GTX's clocked at 490/1300 get easily up to 10000 on a high end computer (FX processor).
I am preety much held back by the processor, I am sure that if I overclock this processor to 2400MHz, I could break the 9000 barrier.
GTX and XT are on par to me. I saw many reviews from different sites and there are 2 kinds of sites. Those that show the truth and the cards are on par, GTX wins some, XT wins some, and there are some others that love ATI and show me that FEAR test over and over and explain how XT is the better choice for FEAR.
The point is that XT WAS better in FEAR Demo. In the final retail version, both GTX and the XT have the same FPS.

http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2575 - non biased

The point is, XT is better now, because of the 512MB that helps when all the eye candy is turned on.
I'd like to know whether you believe the 512MB GTX will get better fps than XT.

Rest assured that the 512mb alone is not enough to give the XT a big lead in games that it wins. In fact, it spanks the GTX in shader-heavy DX9 games like Farcry, BF2, Chaos Theory.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-x1800.html
Oh, an as of about 3 weeks ago, it also now spanks the gtx in Doom3/Quake4.
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=3668
You cant attribute those wins to memory alone, and I'm sure than when you put a 550mhz 512mb gtx vs. a 730mhz XT, the gtx will still lose the same benches that the 256mb model loses.

 

[dnavarro]

Check out this thread at xtreme.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=79326&page=4&pp=25
At the stock clocks of the 512MB GTX (550/1700) on one of the old 256MB ones yields 10K in 3dmark05. That does not include any enhancement from the extra memory and most likely an overclock of 30+MHZ. It will beat the x1800xt.

Here's the score:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1420136

If you have tons of money to spend you can buy one now at MWAVE...
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=59593

D

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: rcabor

Originally posted by: M0RPH
Does that overclocking tool allow you to increase the core voltages on the card?

I havent tried it with the XT yet, but it worked with the xl, so i am betting that it will.

What drivers are you using Rc?

 

[Cookie Monster]

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: terentenet

Originally posted by: Elfear

Originally posted by: terentenet

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: terentenet
NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX card with 512 MB is expected next Monday 14th of November and will be priced at $649.

550/1700 they say. Sounds preety official too. Others say this will be a limited edition chip, everybody agrees this will blow x1800xt away?

Details

I'd like to see if it can blow away a 730mhz XT. LOL.

If a 430/1200 GTX is on par with the 625/1500 XT (90% of the benchmarks are on reference GTX designs, allthough, even my GTX runs 450/1250 with an official BIOS from Leadtek), I am preety damn confident a 550/1700 GTX will wipe the floor with a 730MHz XT. Plus, 730MHz XT is highly overclocked, while 550/1700 is a stock GTX512. Overclock that one, up to 625/1850 and as a nVidia man said, ATi is no competition for now. Perhaps when R580 will be out, if it will be out. My oppinion.
Suggestions?

Hmm. I don't really agree with you about the stock clocked GTX keeping up with the X1800XT. Almost all the reviews I've seen concluded that the X1800XT is the faster card.

3DMark05 isn't as good as real world gaming but it does reflect a card's relative performance with respect to games and when the stock 7800GTX scores ~7700 and the stock X1800XT scores ~9100, I wouldn't say that they are on par.

I'm really curious how Nvidia's 512MB beast turns out. I just can't see a refresh being so much faster than it's big brother, like some peope are saying. It will undoubtably be fast but I don't think it will cause games to come up with an error message saying "maximum allowed fps have been exceeded" or cause your monitor to do the lightspeed blur effect whenever you start up your rig.

Check my system, in the signature. I get 8250 in 2005 and I only have a humble 7800GTX running 450/1250, opposed to Leadtek's Extreme, BFG's or XFX's 490/1300 cards. I also run a midstream processor, Ath64 3200+ (2009MHz).
7800GTX's clocked at 490/1300 get easily up to 10000 on a high end computer (FX processor).
I am preety much held back by the processor, I am sure that if I overclock this processor to 2400MHz, I could break the 9000 barrier.
GTX and XT are on par to me. I saw many reviews from different sites and there are 2 kinds of sites. Those that show the truth and the cards are on par, GTX wins some, XT wins some, and there are some others that love ATI and show me that FEAR test over and over and explain how XT is the better choice for FEAR.
The point is that XT WAS better in FEAR Demo. In the final retail version, both GTX and the XT have the same FPS.

http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2575 - non biased

The point is, XT is better now, because of the 512MB that helps when all the eye candy is turned on.
I'd like to know whether you believe the 512MB GTX will get better fps than XT.

Rest assured that the 512mb alone is not enough to give the XT a big lead in games that it wins. In fact, it spanks the GTX in shader-heavy DX9 games like Farcry, BF2, Chaos Theory.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-x1800.html
Oh, an as of about 3 weeks ago, it also now spanks the gtx in Doom3/Quake4.
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=3668
You cant attribute those wins to memory alone, and I'm sure than when you put a 550mhz 512mb gtx vs. a 730mhz XT, the gtx will still lose the same benches that the 256mb model loses.

What i dont get is that why would ATi release the XT PE? They are already short on GPU supply as reported by many websites not to mention the X1600 series being delayed. The XT is finally available and its in stock in a few places but hardly anyway outside of America. It would also hurt the XT sales, unless the MSRP of it was $649 or higher.

And I do agree the XT is a beast, but then it is expected that a card 4 months late should beat the GTX. But the GTX still competes well with the XT. The Xt beating the GTX in Doom3 and Quake4 is pretty astounding although it still gets pounded in other OpenGL titles.

 

[evilhomerj]

So i got my X1800xt today and went straight to overclocking it of course. I easily hit 700 core but my memory is clocking horrible. Even using the included overdrive tab which enables up to 1800mhz memory speed (which by what im reading is pretty easily achieved). I clock anything past 1550mhz mem speed and everything is fine and dandy until I start a game/benchmark. Immediately i get a light blue screen or a black screen and my pc completely hard locks. Case temps are 34c and the x1800xt is idling at around 48c and 76c at load. I dont think the PSU is an issue. Its an ocz 580w and ran my 7800gtx's no prob. usually when i clock a card to high in memory, i get corruption etc, but never where the app wont even load. Its not even getting past the splash screens of the game when it locks up. back it off to 1500mhz (stock) and everything runs fine. Bad memory chips? Ideas?

 

[rcabor]

Originally posted by: bjc112

Originally posted by: rcabor

Originally posted by: M0RPH
Does that overclocking tool allow you to increase the core voltages on the card?

I havent tried it with the XT yet, but it worked with the xl, so i am betting that it will.

What drivers are you using Rc?

Cat 5.10a

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Griswold

Originally posted by: terentenet
[If a 430/1200 GTX is on par with the 625/1500 XT (90% of the benchmarks are on reference GTX designs, allthough, even my GTX runs 450/1250 with an official BIOS from Leadtek), I am preety damn confident a 550/1700 GTX will wipe the floor with a 730MHz XT. Plus, 730MHz XT is highly overclocked, while 550/1700 is a stock GTX512. Overclock that one, up to 625/1850 and as a nVidia man said, ATi is no competition for now. Perhaps when R580 will be out, if it will be out. My oppinion.
Suggestions?

Suggestion: Wait until you see the specs for real.

Check the other thread here or at nVNews dude- people are starting to buy 580/1730 512MB 7800GTXs and the flood gates are about to open.

There won't be anyone talking about the X1800XT any more, very, very soon. (no offense to the OP)

730X16= 11680
580X24= 13920 GTX wins fillrate by 19% on mega OCd XT!

865MHz GTX stock memory>>>>> 828MHz mega OCd XT memory.

Like I said, OCing, nice memory controller tweaks, whatever- the 512MB 7800GTX is going to be the card to get this year.

Although I certainly have to say those are huge OCs and you have a very nice card as well!

 

[M0RPH]

Way to crap on someone's purchase, Rollo. WHy don't you just stay the frick out of this thread? It's about the X1800XT. It's not about Nvidia cards.

 

[Powermoloch]

nvidia dudes are at it again