Graphics Cards

[LeTH aRe GiC]

Im looking into building a new PC very soon and one thing that has got me very concerned is the graphics card. It seems the graphics cards that are coming out right now cant keep up with the games that are coming out. When the best thing you can possibly buy for a graphics card cant even hit 50 FPS in Oblivion how can I expect to use this card for another year or two? (Oblivion Benchmarks) Should I buy a graphics card now, or wait till the new series of cards come out?

 

[tuteja1986]

Well People can play oblivion easy with a 7900GT or X1900XT :!

But yeah some GPU may not be so good for games like UT2007 , Bioshock , Crysis but i did see at GDC 06 Crysis running on a single X1900XT and it looked great. If i were you i would wait till November to buy a graphic card , if rumor are true then Nvidia starts its production of G80 mid next month and they go on sale on early November. But if your looking for a True DX10 card then you may have to wiat untill Mid Jan for ATI R600. If you do wait till Jan to buy a new computer than you would be able to pick up Quad Core Intel CPU , RD600/G80 and RD600 motherboard which look to destroy nvidia 590 motherboard.

 

[LeTH aRe GiC]

Im planning on picking up a core2duo in october, but thinking about waiting till the next series comes out for true dx10 and hdcp support

 

[josh6079]

Topic Title: Graphics Cards
Topic Summary: Hardware versus Software

Heh, this thread reminded me of someone who would debate the two are unrelated....

 

[tuteja1986]

Originally posted by: LeTH aRe GiC
Im planning on picking up a core2duo in october, but thinking about waiting till the next series comes out for true dx10 and hdcp support

atleast wait till G80 which come out early nov

 

[Cookie Monster]

Originally posted by: tuteja1986
Well People can play oblivion easy with a 7900GT or X1900XT :!

But yeah some GPU may not be so good for games like UT2007 , Bioshock , Crysis but i did see at GDC 06 Crysis running on a single X1900XT and it looked great. If i were you i would wait till November to buy a graphic card , if rumor are true then Nvidia starts its production of G80 mid next month and they go on sale on early November. But if your looking for a True DX10 card then you may have to wiat untill Mid Jan for ATI R600. If you do wait till Jan to buy a new computer than you would be able to pick up Quad Core Intel CPU , RD600/G80 and RD600 motherboard which look to destroy nvidia 590 motherboard.

It was either running on a sample DX10 GPU or X1900XTX crossfire. NOT on a single X1900XT. (This applies to Crysis. Plus, UT2007 was smooth running on a 6800 ultra about 2 years ago)

Why is the R600 a "true" DX10 card? Once again, people have this misconception that if a GPU is not employing a unified shader architecture its not a"full" DX10 card.
Last rumour i heard on R600 was that its going to be delayed til early next year, but also its going to be 33cm long (similiar to the 7900GX2), uses 3 PCI-e slots, and requires 200W by itself. Heres the link.

Link

Finally, you cant just assume that the RD600 board is going to destroy the NF590 SLi chipset. Right now, the nforce5 590 SLi offers the most feature (link boost, Dual Net, SLi, EPP memory to name a few) and gives the highest performance overall based on other motherboards. Since the intel edition 590 is going to be released with the new C55 MCP, the OCibility of the motherboards will greatly enhance.

To the OP. G80 will hit around november, or december with a hard launch. I also read that the Intel Core2 Extreme 6900 (kensfield) Quad Core will hit Q4/06. 2.66ghz with 1333fsb if you got the cash.

Not to mention the new intel Nforce5 mobos with the new C55 MCPs hitting around that time as well. So wait til then.

Note - DX10 games releasing when Vista hits will still be similiar to DX9 games. It will take quite some time for the gaming industry to move to DX10, something similiar to DX8 --> DX9. I dont buy into future proof stuff as there is better cards across the corner. So buy the card that is fastest now or when your going to buy it.

 

[tuteja1986]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster

Originally posted by: tuteja1986
Well People can play oblivion easy with a 7900GT or X1900XT :!

But yeah some GPU may not be so good for games like UT2007 , Bioshock , Crysis but i did see at GDC 06 Crysis running on a single X1900XT and it looked great. If i were you i would wait till November to buy a graphic card , if rumor are true then Nvidia starts its production of G80 mid next month and they go on sale on early November. But if your looking for a True DX10 card then you may have to wiat untill Mid Jan for ATI R600. If you do wait till Jan to buy a new computer than you would be able to pick up Quad Core Intel CPU , RD600/G80 and RD600 motherboard which look to destroy nvidia 590 motherboard.

It was either running on a sample DX10 GPU or X1900XTX crossfire. NOT on a single X1900XT. (This applies to Crysis. Plus, UT2007 was smooth running on a 6800 ultra about 2 years ago)

Why is the R600 a "true" DX10 card? Once again, people have this misconception that if a GPU is not employing a unified shader architecture its not a"full" DX10 card.
Last rumour i heard on R600 was that its going to be delayed til early next year, but also its going to be 33cm long (similiar to the 7900GX2), uses 3 PCI-e slots, and requires 200W by itself. Heres the link.

Link

Finally, you cant just assume that the RD600 board is going to destroy the NF590 SLi chipset. Right now, the nforce5 590 SLi offers the most feature (link boost, Dual Net, SLi, EPP memory to name a few) and gives the highest performance overall based on other motherboards. Since the intel edition 590 is going to be released with the new C55 MCP, the OCibility of the motherboards will greatly enhance.

To the OP. G80 will hit around november, or december with a hard launch. I also read that the Intel Core2 Extreme 6900 (kensfield) Quad Core will hit Q4/06. 2.66ghz with 1333fsb if you got the cash.

Not to mention the new intel Nforce5 mobos with the new C55 MCPs hitting around that time as well. So wait til then.

Note - DX10 games releasing when Vista hits will still be similiar to DX9 games. It will take quite some time for the gaming industry to move to DX10, something similiar to DX8 --> DX9. I dont buy into future proof stuff as there is better cards across the corner. So buy the card that is fastest now or when your going to buy it.

The developer said himself :! he said a single X1900XT :! they had another machine running on crossfire.

 

[Nightmare225]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Last rumour i heard on R600 was that its going to be delayed til early next year, but also its going to be 33cm long (similiar to the 7900GX2), uses 3 PCI-e slots, and requires 200W by itself

No one's going to get it if that's true...

 

[tuteja1986]

Originally posted by: Nightmare225

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Last rumour i heard on R600 was that its going to be delayed til early next year, but also its going to be 33cm long (similiar to the 7900GX2), uses 3 PCI-e slots, and requires 200W by itself

No one's going to get it if that's true...

He is making it up...

 

[MechaSheeba]

Oblivion is an RPG, slower paced when compared to most FPS. It also uses huge draw distances when compared to most other games, and its in house engine isn't exactly the most efficient. I wouldn't use it as a basis for future game performance.

 

[hmorphone]

Wait for R600 or G80 if you've got a good reason to wait. If not, you may be better off getting an X1950XTX or 7900GTX now. The reason being is that there will always be better, faster, newer cards in the works. If the G80 is worth waiting for, won't the G90 be even more worth waiting for? That said, if it fits in with your plans for a reason, then it may be a good idea to wait for the new cards. The good news is that they will supposedly be out fairly soon.

 

[GundamSonicZeroX]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
So buy the card that is fastest now or when your going to buy it.

My thoughts iin a nutshell. I already got a 7900GT and I'm so happy with it I'm going to get another one and put the in SLI. Besides, I'm not getting Vista for a while soI don't need DX10. And, I'm sure DX10 will suck at first and that even 2 years after it's release, there'll be games like the Unreal series that will run great on older hardware (anyone remember UT2003?)

 

[imported_Truenofan]

personally, i see no real reason to go do dx10 unless your a e-penis kinda person. or if you've got too much money for your own good *cough akshayt*, im personally working on a good CF x1900xtx setup as it is, i figure it'll be more than fast enough for most games for at least the next year. dx10 is going to be overrated for awhile in the beginning. microsoft is going to get a 5% boost in performance, and start flogging the whole thing all over the net.

edit: question guys, as you can see my sig has my psu, you think it'll be enough for dual x1900's? i used ati tool and it says it can draw the whole 30A and occasionally 32A. im not 100% on the whole thing. but im hoping it is enough.