GTX 285 or 295 ?

[Panthur]

I am putting together a new win 7 system, Core I7 870, Asus p55 mb, 8 gb ram, I mostly surf, play some games and work with avchd files from a hd camcorder some.....should I go for a gtx 285 or gtx 295 ? ...thanks in advance...

 

[bryanW1995]

what res is your monitor? What games are you planning to play? If you're going to play high end, demanding games like crysis then a high end card makes sense; if you're playing minesweeper then you might want to look at something, um, cheaper.

5870 is nearly as fast as gtx 295 (~ 10% difference), it's the "new" generation, is less expensive by about $70 at last count, it's dx 11, single gpu with all the benefits that entails vs a dual gpu card, consumes FAR less power, etc etc.

basically, if you're going high end gpu right now at a reasonably high res then 5870 is the way to go.

 

[Panthur]

1680 x 1050 22"lcd. I usually play high end games, Crysis like you say, and so on....I build a new system every 36 months or so and usually go pretty high end on the components....more so than necessary usually
I have been pretty much an Nvidia supported....do you guys believe ATI is the way to go these days ??

 

[SolMiester]

Wahey...loaded question..

 

[bryanW1995]

I love my gtx 260 core 216, and I also have a 9600gso in a spare rig, but if I were buying a card today it would most likely be amd. They have the high end cornered with 5870, the mid-high with 5850, 4890 trades blows with gtx 275 and is generally ~ $20 cheaper, 4870 = gtx 260 and is also cheaper, 4850 is as fast as gts 250 and isn't a 3 year old card, etc etc. When I bought my gtx 260 it was ~ $145 AR, and was in fact about the same price as a 4870 512. Now the 4870's have gone down in price and gtx 260 has gone UP. Honestly, the only nvidia card available right now that has a good price/performance ratio is a 9600 gso.

Nvidia does have physix and cuda, though one or both of those will probably be overtaken by open-source in the next few years.

 

[MagickMan]

Yeah, I bought my 260 when they hit bottom, at ~$140AR. Then I OCd the hell out of it. It's still an awesome card, and it's faster than a 4890 at stock speeds, but if I had to buy now it would be an ATI 5850. I'm not going to worry about it though, I'm going to sit on this one for at least another 12 months and then look into something new when I build a new system next year.

 

[Panthur]

You guys are a lot of help....I have spent so many days reading reviews, performance graphs, etc...on so many components of my upcoming rig that I apparently took the video card for granted...assuming it would likely be a gtx 285 all the way.

 

[MarcVenice]

For 1680*1050 a HD 5870 is a little overkill. A HD 5850 would probably be the sweetspot, and it's faster then a gtx285 and cheaper. Hopefully it's available too though.

 

[MagickMan]

For 1680*1050 the 5850 is the card to get, no question.

 

[happy medium]

I'm waiting for the 5830 for that resolution.

 

[OCGuy]

Either one, you cant go wrong.

 

[alcoholbob]

If all you are going to do is surf, the HD5870 has a HUGE advantage because the idle power is so low. It's also a cooler running card and will help keep the temp in your case lower.

 

[Gikaseixas]

For the resolution you want to game the best card out of the two is the GTX 285 because it's not a very demanding res. but if you don't mind going ATI i would then suggest the 5850. It's cheaper and faster than the 285.

 

[Keysplayr]

Is nobody going to mention the P-word for the OP? I'm not going to, but you guys certainly should inform the OP, whether you like/need/care for the P-word or not. If you want him to make an informed decision, well, then inform him. Ask him a question about something else besides resolution. If he doesn't care about the P-word either, then all of your suggestions are sound. There are also applications for video editing that fall under the C-word.

 

[MarcVenice]

Originally posted by: Keysplayr
Is nobody going to mention the P-word for the OP? I'm not going to, but you guys certainly should inform the OP, whether you like/need/care for the P-word or not. If you want him to make an informed decision, well, then inform him. Ask him a question about something else besides resolution. If he doesn't care about the P-word either, then all of your suggestions are sound. There are also applications for video editing that fall under the C-word.

Those words play no role in a buying decision, not yet and probably never will. Nobody mentioned the ATI Eyefinity word either, did they?

 

[MegaWorks]

Forget both and look for the Radeon HD 5850 or 5870.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: MarcVenice

Originally posted by: Keysplayr
Is nobody going to mention the P-word for the OP? I'm not going to, but you guys certainly should inform the OP, whether you like/need/care for the P-word or not. If you want him to make an informed decision, well, then inform him. Ask him a question about something else besides resolution. If he doesn't care about the P-word either, then all of your suggestions are sound. There are also applications for video editing that fall under the C-word.

Those words play no role in a buying decision, not yet and probably never will. Nobody mentioned the ATI Eyefinity word either, did they?

I think you should let the OP know anyway. After all, you are not him. It may, or may not play a role, to him. You're enforcing your opinion on the OP without giving him all the information. And you just mentioned Eyefinity. So, you're on the right track. Now you just need to muster those other words and let the OP decide what is, or isn't important to him.
If you don't, you are indeed intentionally leaving out info for whatever reason resulting in a misinformed individual. We do not like misinformation, even in the form of omission, do we?
So, we have Eyefinity. What else is there to consider?

 

[BenSkywalker]

If I were you, I'd scale the graphics card money way back and get yourself a larger monitor.

When you are talking about GTX295 level costs paired with a 16x10 display.... it's just all wrong. Step up to at least a 19x10 panel and pair that with a 5850 and you will have an overall significantly greater end experience.

The GTX285 has never been a good choice for a graphics card. The price premium over the GTX275 isn't close to worth it, and SLId GTX260s will smack it around for about the same cost.

 

[SlowSpyder]

A 5850 is cheaper and faster then a GTX285. Also, since you plan on keeping the rig for 3 years having DX11 capability is likely to be very useful for you.

 

[Kuzi]

Originally posted by: Panthur
1680 x 1050 22"lcd. I usually play high end games, Crysis like you say, and so on....I build a new system every 36 months or so and usually go pretty high end on the components....more so than necessary usually
I have been pretty much an Nvidia supported....do you guys believe ATI is the way to go these days ??

I was going to say your best bet would be an HD5850 for the resolution you use, but since you build a system once every three years (I assume no upgrades during this time), then also consider the HD5870, and maybe a larger LCD, as BenSkywalker suggested.

 

[Foshymachine]

You should without a dough go for a HD5850

 

[crisium]

If you insist on Physx then get a GTX 275 (much cheaper than 285, performs fairly close especially if you overclock). Otherwise pay a little more for the faster 5850 with DX11 support. There's a reason everyone is saying 5850 over and over again.

 

[nismotigerwvu]

Originally posted by: Keysplayr
Is nobody going to mention the P-word for the OP? I'm not going to, but you guys certainly should inform the OP, whether you like/need/care for the P-word or not. If you want him to make an informed decision, well, then inform him. Ask him a question about something else besides resolution. If he doesn't care about the P-word either, then all of your suggestions are sound. There are also applications for video editing that fall under the C-word.

Marketing?

 

[Keysplayr]

Panthur, what video card are you using currently?

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: nismotigerwvu

Originally posted by: Keysplayr
Is nobody going to mention the P-word for the OP? I'm not going to, but you guys certainly should inform the OP, whether you like/need/care for the P-word or not. If you want him to make an informed decision, well, then inform him. Ask him a question about something else besides resolution. If he doesn't care about the P-word either, then all of your suggestions are sound. There are also applications for video editing that fall under the C-word.

Marketing?

LoL, good Lord could you imagine if I had said the wpords? No, it's not marketing. More like an ample opportunity for some members to show their fairness. I'm leaving it up to them. Let's see how they do.