Gtx 680, bad performance?

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lavaheadache

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Sorry about nitpicking but that drives me & others crazy?

almost as bad as seeing people post 680 GTX, 580 GTX, 285 GTX. How do you mess up the order of the name when everytime you look at the product it reads the other way.

Nvidia changed the GTX moniker to the front. It has been that way from the GTX 2xx on.
 

Aikouka

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I'm noticing some really odd performance on my GTX 680 in World of Warcraft. I play in windowed mode, and if I leave it non-maximized, I get around 100 FPS. The window takes up about 85% of my screen. If I maximize the game, it drops to bouncing between 40-60 FPS. The game ran like this once before, but it went away. I restarted my machine last night after it happened, and that didn't fix anything. :|

Why do I always have the worst luck whenever I buy a nVidia product? My 8800 GTX never worked right, and it swore me off buying one of their GPUs for years. Amusingly enough, that was also an EVGA card as well. :|

EDIT:

Hmm it's better now that I turned off V-Sync in the game. How strange. I don't have nVidia's option turned on. The game even crashed when I tried to turn it off the first time. I logged back in, and the second try to disable it worked.
 
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Larrelarre

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Ok so now i have reinstalled windows onto an SSD.
I even formated the old big disk.

So everything is fresh and new.
No difference, the GPU usage on this stupid 680 is still low as hell, and with it the FPS.

This is the worst buy i have ever made in my life.
 

Grooveriding

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I'm noticing some really odd performance on my GTX 680 in World of Warcraft. I play in windowed mode, and if I leave it non-maximized, I get around 100 FPS. The window takes up about 85% of my screen. If I maximize the game, it drops to bouncing between 40-60 FPS. The game ran like this once before, but it went away. I restarted my machine last night after it happened, and that didn't fix anything. :|

Why do I always have the worst luck whenever I buy a nVidia product? My 8800 GTX never worked right, and it swore me off buying one of their GPUs for years. Amusingly enough, that was also an EVGA card as well. :|

EDIT:

Hmm it's better now that I turned off V-Sync in the game. How strange. I don't have nVidia's option turned on. The game even crashed when I tried to turn it off the first time. I logged back in, and the second try to disable it worked.

My wife gets some funky behaviour in WoW as well. I found that turning off sunshafts fixed an issue of stuttering/jerky framerate when rotating the camera.

Also have had issues with vsync. With vsync disabled in game, try enabling adaptive vsync in the nv control panel for WoW.
 

aaksheytalwar

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On further thought.

1. It is not your card, otherwise standard benchies like 3D Mark and even BF3 etc would be badly affected as well.

2. For Dx9 games 680 stock isn't that much better than 580 oc. A heavily overclocked 580 will come very close to a stock 680 in some situations in Directx 9 games. Regardless, point 1 is still valid.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-680-review-benchmark,3161-9.html

3. It could be some settings in the control panel to some extent, but that isn't the only problem.

4. It is your CPU + MOBO (entire system). Regardless of what anybody says to you, and everybody will. Everybody has a different requirement for smoothness and what I consider stutter most others can't even perceive it as something which exists. So you are perhaps better at perceiving such deviations from perfection than most others with relatively old systems. A OC to 4+ GHz may help a bit, but 2600k at stock will still give better performance in terms of smoothness etc.

5. If you really think it is your card, then fine, go RMA it. If you want, sell it and go for 7970 if you think that would help. It might to some extent as different architectures are dependent on the CPU/rig to different extents and react differently. However, a 670 or 680 will probably not solve anything, even if you RMA, nor will overclocking it since that isn't the bottleneck.

6. You can start with an RMA of different system parts if you want, there is a 5-10% chance that it just might solve it. But 90% chance points to your having to go for a CPU + MOBO + RAM overhaul.

7. Btw, which power supply do you have? Although this may help only in 1% of the cases, and since you had problems in both situations it probably isn't the problem. But still.

Take care.
 
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Larrelarre

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On further thought.

1. It is not your card, otherwise standard benchies like 3D Mark and even BF3 etc would be badly affected as well.

2. For Dx9 games 680 stock isn't that much better than 580 oc. A heavily overclocked 580 will come very close to a stock 680 in some situations in Directx 9 games. Regardless, point 1 is still valid.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-680-review-benchmark,3161-9.html

3. It could be some settings in the control panel to some extent, but that isn't the only problem.

4. It is your CPU + MOBO (entire system). Regardless of what anybody says to you, and everybody will. Everybody has a different requirement for smoothness and what I consider stutter most others can't even perceive it as something which exists. So you are perhaps better at perceiving such deviations from perfection than most others with relatively old systems. A OC to 4+ GHz may help a bit, but 2600k at stock will still give better performance in terms of smoothness etc.

5. If you really think it is your card, then fine, go RMA it. If you want, sell it and go for 7970 if you think that would help. It might to some extent as different architectures are dependent on the CPU/rig to different extents and react differently. However, a 670 or 680 will probably not solve anything, even if you RMA, nor will overclocking it since that isn't the bottleneck.

6. You can start with an RMA of different system parts if you want, there is a 5-10% chance that it just might solve it. But 90% chance points to your having to go for a CPU + MOBO + RAM overhaul.

7. Btw, which power supply do you have? Although this may help only in 1% of the cases, and since you had problems in both situations it probably isn't the problem. But still.

Take care.


So the reason why my gpu runs at 30-40% usage in most games is because i have an i7 950?
 

aaksheytalwar

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I really don't know why this is really happening. But it seems to make sense and IMO there is a 90% chance that changing your CPU MB RAM to Ivy OC + DDR3 1600 CAS9 or better, at least 8-16GB, with a decent Z77 motherboard, will solve your problem. The chance of that is at least 90% IMO.

Your CPU is unable to use your GPU to its fullest.
 

Larrelarre

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I really don't know why this is really happening. But it seems to make sense and IMO there is a 90% chance that changing your CPU MB RAM to Ivy OC + DDR3 1600 CAS9 or better, at least 8-16GB, with a decent Z77 motherboard, will solve your problem. The chance of that is at least 90% IMO.

Your CPU is unable to use your GPU to its fullest.


Probably some truth in that.

Still, BF3 at ultra settings gives me 90-99% gpu usage, with 35 fps dips.
If i lower the settings, the gpu usage goes down to 50-70%, and i still have thouse 35 fps dips.

Is that my CPU aswell? Please tell me the logics behind that.
 

railven

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I haven't followed the whole thread, but this system runs BF3 better than my HD 7970 system:

Intel Core i7 930 OC'ed to 3.6ghz
3x2GB DDR3 1600 (6GB)
Hitachi something 7200 RPM HDD SATA 3.0 drive (actually not even sure if it's 3.0, it was the drive salvaged from a broken external HDD kit when the interface controller fried)
GTX 680 + 75mhz offset


SP frames are solid 60 FPS, max settings with 2xMSAA, online I turn off MSAA and get 50+, I can't say I feel/see any dips, it's smooth.

On the other side my HD 7970 system, I can definitely feel the dips haha.

Intel Core i5 2500k stock (still haven't OC'ed it)
2x4GB DDR3 1600 (8GB)
2x500GB Maxtor SATA 3.0 in RAID 0
HD 7970 OC'ed 1125/1375

SP frames are solid 60 FPS with max settings + 2xMSAA, online I turn off MSAA and get 50+ FPS, but definitely dips into the <30s, and I can feel it, especially during explosions. GTX 680 has the better gameplay for me and I'd say the system it's on is inferior.
 

aaksheytalwar

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I haven't followed the whole thread, but this system runs BF3 better than my HD 7970 system:

Intel Core i7 930 OC'ed to 3.6ghz
3x2GB DDR3 1600 (6GB)
Hitachi something 7200 RPM HDD SATA 3.0 drive (actually not even sure if it's 3.0, it was the drive salvaged from a broken external HDD kit when the interface controller fried)
GTX 680 + 75mhz offset


SP frames are solid 60 FPS, max settings with 2xMSAA, online I turn off MSAA and get 50+, I can't say I feel/see any dips, it's smooth.

On the other side my HD 7970 system, I can definitely feel the dips haha.

Intel Core i5 2500k stock (still haven't OC'ed it)
2x4GB DDR3 1600 (8GB)
2x500GB Maxtor SATA 3.0 in RAID 0
HD 7970 OC'ed 1125/1375

SP frames are solid 60 FPS with max settings + 2xMSAA, online I turn off MSAA and get 50+ FPS, but definitely dips into the <30s, and I can feel it, especially during explosions. GTX 680 has the better gameplay for me and I'd say the system it's on is inferior.

A 7970 with mem @ 1375 may be really bottlenecked with memory. Did you try 1575? Did the results change?

Difference in avg FPS? Difference in min FPS? Is one a TN panel while other an IPS panel?
 

railven

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A 7970 with mem @ 1375 may be really bottlenecked with memory. Did you try 1575? Did the results change?

Difference in avg FPS? Difference in min FPS? Is one a TN panel while other an IPS panel?

Sorry, I don't remember the clocks 100%, just max CCC sliders (which now I think is 1575.)

Same panel, I don't really bench it, but the one time I did (trying to figure out my boost question) HD 7970 dipped to 33, GTX 680 lowest was 52 this is ignoring loading dips where both tanked to about 0-3 FPS. Same panel (IPS).

Average was 62 for the GTX 680 and about 48 for the HD 7970 if I remember correctly.
 

aaksheytalwar

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And did SP give about similar performance? Cauz in SP at 1440p no AA / 1080p 4x MSAA, I didn't really get any/many drops and there were more like momentary drops and mostly in 50s or 60s and very rarely in 40s, and like for a second or so.

Was the performance very different btw SP and MP? Cz I only did SP.
 

Larrelarre

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After a reinstall of windows and a reinstall of Borderlands i have noticed a little performance boost!

Before:

fps 50ish gpu usage 30-50%



After:

fps 70ish gpu usage 45-70%




Still missing out alot of gpu usage tho
Wish it was 90-99% then maybe the game wouldnt feel so slowish.
 

railven

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And did SP give about similar performance? Cauz in SP at 1440p no AA / 1080p 4x MSAA, I didn't really get any/many drops and there were more like momentary drops and mostly in 50s or 60s and very rarely in 40s, and like for a second or so.

Was the performance very different btw SP and MP? Cz I only did SP.

I wasn't looking for maximum numbers and when I did SP I had v-sync on all I can vouch for is it was locked at 60 FPS for both cards (2xMSAA @ 1080p)

For MP I can't remember if I turned off v-sync (thinking back I'd have to have to assume I didn't.) I think I was playing with Adaptive v-sync too on the GTX 680.
 

toyota

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After a reinstall of windows and a reinstall of Borderlands i have noticed a little performance boost!

Before:

fps 50ish gpu usage 30-50%



After:

fps 70ish gpu usage 45-70%




Still missing out alot of gpu usage tho
Wish it was 90-99% then maybe the game wouldnt feel so slowish.
Borderlands is capped at 62 fps so unless you altered an ini file you are not getting 70ish in that game.
 

Larrelarre

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Borderlands is capped at 62 fps so unless you altered an ini file you are not getting 70ish in that game.

And by me telling you guys that i have 70 fps in Borderlands... 1+1=2?

(Yes, i have disabled the max 62 fps in borderlands, obviously)
 

toyota

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And by me telling you guys that i have 70 fps in Borderlands... 1+1=2?

(Yes, i have disabled the max 62 fps in borderlands, obviously)
well its not obvious because people estimate or exaggerate all the time. I see people making odd claims all the time that are not possible so I was just pointing it out that there was a cap.
 

Larrelarre

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well its not obvious because people estimate or exaggerate all the time. I see people making odd claims all the time that are not possible so I was just pointing it out that there was a cap.

Ok so when i started this thread you think that stuff that i say is just something that i make up for fun?
 

toyota

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Ok so when i started this thread you think that stuff that i say is just something that i make up for fun?
AGAIN people sometimes estimate or exaggerate their framerates. by you saying 70ish I figured you were just estimating since the game has a 62 fps cap. if you actully had that cap off then you should be way way over 100 fps with a gtx680 and should never even be 70ish for a minimum even. now do you get what I am saying?
 

blackened23

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After a reinstall of windows and a reinstall of Borderlands i have noticed a little performance boost!

Before:

fps 50ish gpu usage 30-50%



After:

fps 70ish gpu usage 45-70%




Still missing out alot of gpu usage tho
Wish it was 90-99% then maybe the game wouldnt feel so slowish.

??????????????

That game engine has a cap of 62 fps.
 

Larrelarre

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AGAIN people sometimes estimate or exaggerate their framerates. by you saying 70ish I figured you were just estimating since the game has a 62 fps cap. if you actully had that cap off then you should be way way over 100 fps with a gtx680 and should never even be 70ish for a minimum even. now do you get what I am saying?

Ok i see.


And i agree, with 680 it should be giving me more fps.

70ish fps is what i get when i am running around in Firestone. All settings maxed.
That is about what i got with my gigabyte OC 460.

With this gtx680 in my girlfriends computer wich has an i7 2600, the fps is about 80ish in firestone.
She has 100ish with her Gigabyte OC 580.

So yeah, something's up.
 

toyota

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Ok i see.


And i agree, with 680 it should be giving me more fps.

70ish fps is what i get when i am running around in Firestone. All settings maxed.
That is about what i got with my gigabyte OC 460.

With this gtx680 in my girlfriends computer wich has an i7 2600, the fps is about 80ish in firestone.
She has 100ish with her Gigabyte OC 580.

So yeah, something's up.
yeah I just checked and I get about 95-100 with my gtx570. lowest I saw in about 10 minutes was 84 fps.
 
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