GTX 780 Ti reviews

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ocre

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I have to say that 780Ti is somewhat a low blow at nvidia fans. Some people were hit directly in the "family jewels" upgrading from 780 to 780ti. You bough the same thing again! NV charged you twice for the same product (or 4 times if one went SLI both times).

Look at the possible upgrade path this gen (28nm)
gtx680>780(Titan )>780ti
They repeatedly sold you a card for the flag-ship price point, which was not a flagship.
AMD did 7970>290X but that is a bit different, as no one expected big die from them.

The 290 launch was another blow to AMD fans. Some people where hit directly in the "family jewels". AMD charged you hundreds more for the same product. They sold every 290x they could till out of stock only to release the 290 weeks later which performs exactly the same and cost soooo much less. I think I would feel pretty bad if i was suckered into that scam!!!

:whiste:
See it can go both ways. Just saying.........
 

moonbogg

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The 290 launch was another blow to AMD fans. Some people where hit directly in the "family jewels". AMD charged you hundreds more for the same product. They sold every 290x they could till out of stock only to release the 290 weeks later which performs exactly the same and cost soooo much less. I think I would feel pretty bad if i was suckered into that scam!!!

:whiste:
See it can go both ways. Just saying.........

R9 290x was the feigning punch and the R9 290 was the knock out blow
 
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The 780ti launch has went over like a lead balloon imo. Just checked the egg and you can find any flavor of 780ti. They aren't exactly flying off the shelves.
 

BallaTheFeared

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The 780ti launch has went over like a lead balloon imo. Just checked the egg and you can find any flavor of 780ti. They aren't exactly flying off the shelves.

Given how mature the node is, and the 780 Ti not being anything new the other possibility is that unlike AMD Nvidia actually had considerable stock to provide to retailers.


Card costs far too much for me, but the overclocking capabilities while remaining quiter than the 290x in uber are hard to ignore. It's truly the fastest card and the greater feat of engineering. The cooler is even better it seems, and definitely something AMD needs to aspire to.
 

chimaxi83

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Given how mature the node is, and the 780 Ti not being anything new the other possibility is that unlike AMD Nvidia actually had considerable stock to provide to retailers.


Card costs far too much for me, but the overclocking capabilities while remaining quiter than the 290x in uber are hard to ignore. It's truly the fastest card and the greater feat of engineering. The cooler is even better it seems, and definitely something AMD needs to aspire to.

Well, I would hope so. GK110 has been out for almost 9 months in gaming form after all, even longer in compute. I'd expect Nvidia to have refined it after all this time.
 

BallaTheFeared

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Well, I would hope so. GK110 has been out for almost 9 months in gaming form after all, even longer in compute. I'd expect Nvidia to have refined it after all this time.

Yes refined and stockpiled.

It's unlikely they spun up the silicon for the GTX 780 Ti and fitted coolers in two weeks.

If I had to guess I would say they've had it waiting in the wings so to speak for months prior to AMDs disruptive 290 release.
 

Erenhardt

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The 290 launch was another blow to AMD fans. Some people where hit directly in the "family jewels". AMD charged you hundreds more for the same product. They sold every 290x they could till out of stock only to release the 290 weeks later which performs exactly the same and cost soooo much less. I think I would feel pretty bad if i was suckered into that scam!!!

:whiste:
See it can go both ways. Just saying.........

In one example a company is delivering cut down product at high price, slowly unlocking parts of it and charging more for it. In your example better product is released first, so no reason to downgrade to 290 pro. Both cards launch close to each other.
Basically, this:
Given how mature the node is, and the 780 Ti not being anything new the other possibility is that unlike AMD Nvidia actually had considerable stock to provide to retailers.

They could release full gk-110 geforce card a lot earlier. But what they choose to do is to have new "flagship" card every 4 months. If they could they would sell you a card with one more CUDA core every week.

Anyway, that is drifting away from the topic
 

cmdrdredd

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In one example a company is delivering cut down product at high price, slowly unlocking parts of it and charging more for it. In your example better product is released first, so no reason to downgrade to 290 pro. Both cards launch close to each other.
Basically, this:


They could release full gk-110 geforce card a lot earlier. But what they choose to do is to have new "flagship" card every 4 months. If they could they would sell you a card with one more CUDA core every week.

Anyway, that is drifting away from the topic

What nvidia is doing is ensuring their brand is always the top performing.
 

Erenhardt

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What nvidia is doing is ensuring their brand is always the top performing.

But not too much over the top... I see. Thanks for holding back GPU performance advancements. Looks like any increase in GPU performance is in hands of AMD, if they fail, we will be stuck with 780ti, then, 780Ti GHz, 780Ti BOOST, 780Ti GHz BOOST...and then some more...

Anyway, Im out of here before I get infraction for derailing
 

lavaheadache

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It has some truth to it. There are some people who went with Titan, then to overclocked 780s, and now are getting the 780 Ti. All the while NVidia execs are sitting in their plush office chairs twirling their curly mustaches and laughing maniacally.

Why do i feel like you are talking about me? oh well, i bought my 780's used at the current price point. No harm no foul. Got my Ti a couple hours ago just before i left for work. I look forward to running it hard tonight.
 

tg2708

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Why do i feel like you are talking about me? oh well, i bought my 780's used at the current price point. No harm no foul. Got my Ti a couple hours ago just before i left for work. I look forward to running it hard tonight.

is their a specific reason why you went from dual 780 to a single ti (sorry if its two im just using what you wrote)?
 

AdamK47

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Why do i feel like you are talking about me? oh well, i bought my 780's used at the current price point. No harm no foul. Got my Ti a couple hours ago just before i left for work. I look forward to running it hard tonight.

No, I wasn't talking about you. There were more people doing the same thing. I've noticed it on other forums as well.
 

krumme

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Why do i feel like you are talking about me? oh well, i bought my 780's used at the current price point. No harm no foul. Got my Ti a couple hours ago just before i left for work. I look forward to running it hard tonight.

Its like that for most products that build on brand value. Take eg iphone 5 to 5s. I guess most users couldnt tell the difference but some chose to sleep outside the shop to wait for one. Thats an extreme example but i guess it doesnt bother you, that you can get a silent dual gpu 290 for more or less the same in one or two months, and the 780ti is 500 then. Who gives, you have fun and its actually a cheap hobby.
 

el etro

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I think there will be not a boom on game required video memory on the next years. The gradual increase in memory Nvidia are doing in your graphics cards is(and according to my thought will be) sufficient to play in mainstream resolutions. AMD sends more memory because they are targeting the gameplay in eyefinity(and recently used the "4k marketing" to increase another 1GB in memory).
 
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Face2Face

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Why do i feel like you are talking about me? oh well, i bought my 780's used at the current price point. No harm no foul. Got my Ti a couple hours ago just before i left for work. I look forward to running it hard tonight.

Eagerly waiting to see your OC results
 

el etro

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Given how mature the node is, and the 780 Ti not being anything new the other possibility is that unlike AMD Nvidia actually had considerable stock to provide to retailers.


Card costs far too much for me, but the overclocking capabilities while remaining quiter than the 290x in uber are hard to ignore. It's truly the fastest card and the greater feat of engineering. The cooler is even better it seems, and definitely something AMD needs to aspire to.

I think 780Ti will become irrelevant, except to ultra enthusiast market(you can read this as "Titan owners"), once the custom models of 290x come to market. Custom 290x launch will be the next round of the battle(The last round will be Dual Hawaii vs Dual GK110).
 

krumme

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I think there will be not a boom on game required video memory on the next years. The gradual increase in memory Nvidia are doing in your graphics cards is(and according to my thought will be) sufficient to play in mainstream resolutions. AMD sends more memory because they are targeting the gameplay in eyefinity(and recently used the "4k marketing" to increase another 1GB in memory.

Its very much dependant on the price in 2014 on 4k and the consoles driving mem demands, but traditionally i think users have bought to much ram.

I could really use a 4k screen not so much for gaming but for all the other stuff especially pictures. But it needs to be 60Hz good calibrated quality and cheaper. I guess most could use the same
 
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lavaheadache

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is their a specific reason why you went from dual 780 to a single ti (sorry if its two im just using what you wrote)?

Yes, I prefer a single card. I like to try Sli out every gen just to see how the tech progresses. I got the 780's for a good price so I said "why the heck not ?"

No, I wasn't talking about you. There were more people doing the same thing. I've noticed it on other forums as well.

I really wasn't being serious. I don't think I'm that important, lol. Just poking fun at myself.

Eagerly waiting to see your OC results

me, too. today is dragging at work
 
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krumme

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I think 780Ti will become irrelevant, except to ultra enthusiast market(you can read this as "Titan owners"), once the custom models of 290x come to market. Custom 290x launch will be the next round of the battle(The last round will be Dual Hawaii vs Dual GK110).

Dual Hawaii is a posibility. The cf scaling, lesser cost and mem size will make it a good card for the new 4k or 3x1200. There is no point in a dual 110. It would end up slower and far to expensive.

And yes custom 290x is very interesting as test show lesser heat can improve power by 30w and we know the card scales near perfectly with proper cooling.
 

BallaTheFeared

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I think 780Ti will become irrelevant, except to ultra enthusiast market(you can read this as "Titan owners"), once the custom models of 290x come to market. Custom 290x launch will be the next round of the battle(The last round will be Dual Hawaii vs Dual GK110).

I think the 290x is already irrelevant and will remain so until it receive a $100 price reduction.

Problem for the 290x is water is showing it isn't going to benefit much from aftermarket, a 10-15% gain from OC is about all we can expect but with better acoustics and thermals of course.

The 780 Ti is already shown to get 20% overclocks on the reference cooler while maintaining a noise profile lower than that of the 290x in uber mode.

Then you have to factor in the custom cards like the Classified, and bios mods which have older silicon hitting 1300-1400 on air. This new stepping is already producing considerable performance on reference air and we should see the 780 Ti walk away from the 290x OC vs OC.

Reference GTX 780 Ti OC competes not with the 290x, but with the 690 and the 7990, it is quite an impressive piece of silicon which more than doubles the performance of the last gens top end card the 580.
 
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Leadbox

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Yes refined and stockpiled.

It's unlikely they spun up the silicon for the GTX 780 Ti and fitted coolers in two weeks.

If I had to guess I would say they've had it waiting in the wings so to speak for months prior to AMDs disruptive 290 release.
How long has the B1 revision of gk110 been out? I dont think we would have seen all 2880 CCs on the desktop without it
 

OCGuy

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I think 780Ti will become irrelevant, except to ultra enthusiast market(you can read this as "Titan owners"), once the custom models of 290x come to market. Custom 290x launch will be the next round of the battle(The last round will be Dual Hawaii vs Dual GK110).

Dual Hawaii?

Yea....not going to happen.

You can already get a custom fan on a 290x....we already know what the performance is like. UK OC has the numbers everywhere. We already know what a OC 290x versus an OC 780ti will do....
 

OCGuy

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Great spread of games to give a real feel for average performance:


Our chart provides a lot of information across 30 games and 4 synthetics. What we can take away from the results is that the GTX 780 Ti is the fastest single GPU video card – period! The reference GTX 780 Ti easily beats its main competitor, the mildly overclocked R9 290X which maintains its 1030MHz boost clock as it base clock through all of the benching in our cool testing environment. And the PowerColor 290X is a very strong performer as it goes toe to toe with the Titan!

We also see very good scaling from overclocking the reference GTX 780 Ti which gives a taste of what Nvidia’s board partners will be able to do with the clocks and with more exotic cooling. When overclocked, the GTX 780 Ti is within about 10% of the performance of dual-GPU GTX 690. This is an amazing feat for the GTX 780 Ti as it has none of the issues of SLI.


http://alienbabeltech.com/main/evga-gtx-780-reference-version-benchmarked-30-games/6/




Getting that close to 7990 and 690 on a single card is just sweet.
 
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