GTX 780 Ti reviews

[Silverforce11]

Thats why I dislike the TF design on MSI, its great at normal operations but once OC, it becomes noisy.. which defeats the purpose of having an open air cooler.

Looks like the IceQ, Windforce, PCS+ is the ones to get for those sensitive to noise. I also agree, 1.3vcore is too much on air, once I grab a custom R290, I will be happy if it can reach 1.2ghz

 

[BallaTheFeared]

They're good for what they are, I didn't top the benchmark charts on this forum for 7950s because they're bad cards. They do get loud though, 4000+ RPM regardless of blower or not is going to get loud.

That will be true for any card that can move as much air, you can only soak so much heat before you saturate the pipes and fins; the only way to remove that heat is with more air flow and thus more noise.

You could move to a huge cooler like Face2Face did, but for prolonged gaming you still need the fan speed for the vrms. Even if you can keep the core cool you still need to worry about your vrms as he does with his golden chip.

Thus then the density and power consumption of R290 becomes a serious problem for decent noise levels even on non reference cards, the voltage and power required for water to hit 1250+ (1.3 to 1.4v) isn't going to translate well to open air coolers because unlike water blocks you don't get the great vrm cooling with any open air solution where almost all of the focus is on the core itself with paltry think tin sinks placed on the vrms at best.

 

[Arkuatika]

Well, they just fired their biggest gun and AMD still has a couple of rounds chambered up.

What do you mean by this? There hasn't been any significant news on AMD's next lineup while maxwell is on it's way in 2014. Considering GK110 was released a year ago and AMD has JUST caught up doesn't seem so plausible they already are capable of releasing anything big anytime soon.

 

[3DVagabond]

What do you mean by this? There hasn't been any significant news on AMD's next lineup while maxwell is on it's way in 2014. Considering GK110 was released a year ago and AMD has JUST caught up doesn't seem so plausible they already are capable of releasing anything big anytime soon.

Their are still the custom AIB cards and Mantle coming. Also, nVidia was just able to release a fully functional GK110 themselves. They haven't had that for a year. AMD was going to release a 2560SPU card in Jan, but they didn't. They waited until they had a completely functional chip to market, as is their norm. nVidia often releases chips that aren't completely functional.

 

[Arkuatika]

Their are still the custom AIB cards and Mantle coming.

However Nvidia also have AIB cards, the only thing that would be a concern is the Mantle as it currently seems promising.

 

[3DVagabond]

However Nvidia also have AIB cards, the only thing that would be a concern is the Mantle as it currently seems promising.

Has anyone said their are custom 780ti's coming? That's good news.

 

[Arkuatika]

Has anyone said their are custom 780ti's coming? That's good news.

Not worth much coming from my assumptions but seems pretty standard with the exception of the Titans has it not always been the case for single GPUs?

 

[3DVagabond]

Not worth much coming from my assumptions but seems pretty standard with the exception of the Titans has it not always been the case for single GPUs?

Well, you could be right, but I actually thought they might do this card exactly like they did Titan. Maybe not though. While it would maximize profit for them, and indirectly help EVGA (I think all else being equal more nVidia customers would prefer buying EVGA over the other partners.), but I think the 780TI is going to need faster custom cards to have any chance keeping up with what AMD has coming. Even then, I'm not to sure they'll have any answer for Mantle, unless it fails, of course. That still remains to be seen.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

The nature of 290 series is such that it's unlikely board partners will go much higher than 1050 or 1100 for max boost.


Apoppin overclocked his reference 780 Ti against his 1030MHz 290x that doesn't throttle and the results speak for themselves.

 

[krumme]

The nature of 290 series is such that it's unlikely board partners will go much higher than 1050 or 1100 for max boost.


Apoppin overclocked his reference 780 Ti against his 1030MHz 290x that doesn't throttle and the results speak for themselves.

It looks like it, at least for the next half a year, but probably next to 95% of the card sold will be 1050/1100 and running 100% all the time. Still giving 10-15% on top of the 290x review we have seen.
With bf4 comming into the mix and mantle on top of it it looks like it could easily tip 780ti for performance for most users already this dec.
Clear cf victory on top of that.

 

[tg2708]

That charts results are pretty good nvidia is leading quite a bit on the single gpu front. I applaud from an efficiency stand point too.

 

[Will Robinson]

It's from ABT :sneaky:

 

[krumme]

We have no doubt 780ti is faster in older games and synthetic stuff when overclocked 20% compared to a 3% oc 290x.
Just make sure you dont do cf vs sli especially at 4k as nv crash.
Lol.

 

[OatisCampbell]

Their are still the custom AIB cards and Mantle coming. Also, nVidia was just able to release a fully functional GK110 themselves. They haven't had that for a year. AMD was going to release a 2560SPU card in Jan, but they didn't. They waited until they had a completely functional chip to market, as is their norm. nVidia often releases chips that aren't completely functional.

Given how many partially functional GK110s NVIDIA sold for $1000- $3000 it would appear they had the better strategy, by far.

If AMD truly had a 2560 SPU chip ready to go in January, they should have sold it. I wouldn't have bought one for $1000, but I would have bought one for $550 instead of what I paid for my 7970. :\

 

[el etro]

The nature of 290 series is such that it's unlikely board partners will go much higher than 1050 or 1100 for max boost.


Apoppin overclocked his reference 780 Ti against his 1030MHz 290x that doesn't throttle and the results speak for themselves.

Titan is winning against 290X in every single bench here... no way this is real. IMO Anand, HardOCP(that used only uber 290X in the comparsions) and Computerbase did the best reviews.

And its good to remember: Reference 780Ti throttles up to 1Ghz in commom gaming situations up to defeat 290X.

 

[SirPauly]

Therefore, the comparison to R9 290X is again invalid for performance reasons if you are going to bring up 6970 vs. 580.

Maybe to you it is invalid but the major difference to me, and my point is both AMD and nVidia are simply charging more!

 

[el etro]

I really hope they don't try to stick two of either chip on one board.

Once thermal have reduced, can put two better cooled Hawaii(remember 7990 reference cooler is a monster) with clocks at 800 and up to boosted 900 in order to fight GK-110. And, of course, put the uber mode stwitch that cranks more 100mhz on base on boost clocks in order achieve fierce competition with dual 2880SPs-GK100.

 

[OatisCampbell]

We have no doubt 780ti is faster in older games and synthetic stuff when overclocked 20% compared to a 3% oc 290x.
Just make sure you dont do cf vs sli especially at 4k as nv crash.
Lol.

I don't think any vendor has much reason to be concerned about the 4K market for a year or two.

Review sites get 4K monitors free. STEAM Survey shows less than 1% of us bought 1600P monitors that cost a third of what 4K panels run.

Eyefinity never really caught on either. I tried it with 7970CF, didn't really like the bezels and looking at 24" TN panels.

Back on my ancient 3007WFP, won't be buying TN anything.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Titan is winning against 290X in every single bench here...

Not all, but a fair share.

It's important to remember when complaining about R290X throttle in some reviews that Apoppin specifically tests all of his cards with temp and power targets set to max without adjusting clocks or fan profiles.

His retail R290X is actually a 1030MHz overclocked sample and it does not throttle according to him in uber mode and the noise from the fan wasn't something he complained about either.

By eliminating the typical throttle that takes place with Titan which even when throttling competes quite well with non throttling 290X the additional clock speed gains were enough to pull Titan ahead it would seem.

 

[Abwx]

His retail R290X is actually a 1030MHz overclocked sample and it does not throttle according to him in uber mode and the noise from the fan wasn't something he complained about either.

By eliminating the typical throttle that takes place with Titan which even when throttling competes quite well with non throttling 290X the additional clock speed gains were enough to pull Titan ahead it would seem.

3% over max frequency , quite an OC , how much for the competition.?..

 

[f1sherman]

Thats why I dislike the TF design on MSI, its great at normal operations but once OC, it becomes noisy.. which defeats the purpose of having an open air cooler.

Yup, that how I see TF too.
And no amount of review links and noise measurement will make me change my mind.

TF= OK cooler + meh fans

 

[BallaTheFeared]

3% over max frequency , quite an OC , how much for the competition.?..

That is what it comes stock at, not sure what his actual overclock for the 290X was but let's not pretend it has a lot of headroom on the reference cooler without setting it to disproportionally high fan noise levels.

Overclocking the GTX 780 Ti is just as easy as overclocking the Geforce Titan, the GTX 680/770 or the GTX 690. The GTX 780 Ti managed a completely stable +175MHz on the core and +400MHz on the memory. We did not adjust the GTX 780's fan profile, nor voltage for our benchmark runs. We did however, push up the temperature controls to maximum since we tested in Fall-like (cool - 72-75F) conditions. We saw much less throttling with the GTX 780 Ti than we did with the Titan. We also made very sure to warm up all of our cards before benching

 

[Zanovar]

It's from ABT :sneaky:

The forum certainly has a shade of a certain colour.*shrugs*.but i always read his reviews.*Shrugs*

 

[Lonyo]

A sensible person would look at various reviews and ignore the outliers (those with the highest and lowest relative performances) anyway.

Doing CPU limited benches on high end card seems rather a waste of time though.

 

[railven]

The forum certainly has a shade of a certain colour.*shrugs*.but i always read his reviews.*Shrugs*

A shade? There's a reason why a lot of the Pro-NV guys go there and complain about here. Shade is an understatement haha.

If this place bleeds red, that place doesn't know any other color but green.