GTX580 reviews thread

[epidemis]

This makes me excited to see what they can do with more tweaks and a shrink. The third generation of a new architecture is usually a beast.

 

[Sickamore]

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/11/09/nvidia_geforce_gtx_580_video_card_review


http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_580_SLI/

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/11/09/nvidia-geforce-gtx-580-review/1

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-580-review/

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc...cs-cards/nvidia-geforce-gtx-580-906690/review

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-580-sli-review/

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=27307

 

[96Firebird]

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/geforce-gtx-580-gf110-geforce-gtx-480,review-32043.html

 

[Sickamore]

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_580/

 

[Sickamore]

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_580_SLI/

 

[nyker96]

http://techreport.com/articles.x/19934/1

 

[yepp]

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1461/1/
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/grafikkarten/2010/test-nvidia-geforce-gtx-580/
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/806-1/dossier-nvidia-geforce-gtx-580-sli.html

 

[Genx87]

I think these two screen caps pretty much show why the GTX 580 is unimpressive:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1061446/5802560rel.png
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1061446/580pwrpeak.png

Basically, you have a card that's only 32% faster than AMD's flagship from well over a year ago, the 5870, running on outdated drivers. Also, it consumes 57% more power, too. That just isn't impressive, not a year later, and especially because it doesn't even live up to the original performance estimates NVIDIA PR was spouting during last fall (50%+ faster than Cypress, blah blah blah).

Quoting this for if the 6000 series doesnt perform much better.

 

[SlowSpyder]

6970 is rumored to be late. Do you disagree with this, and why?
Claiming fastest single GPU is a bit pre-mature don't you think? We don't even know if this will be the next 2900XT or R300 yet.

You're claiming many things here without anything to back it up Groover. Why?
1. Brand new arch? Ok sure.
2. Fastest single GPU? Where?
3. Big improvements in crossfire? Where?
4. 6990 in Dec? Confirmed? Where?

I saw the Fudzilla article about Cayman being delayed, I think that was based off of another rumor site, but could be wrong. Someone posted in another thread that Kyle from Hardocp.com more or less said it's Fud, nothing more.

So, I doubt that it's delayed, but obviously we can't confirm it one way or another. Though I'm fairly confident it'll be here on time.

As far as the GTX580 goes, it's nothing more than a refresh. But, it's a refresh that uses less power and is quieter than Nvidia's prior flagship part. I think the performance increase is pretty weak by itself, the big news here is that there was a performance increase with less power and noise.

Like I said earlier, what the GTX580 really says to me is just how bad, in many ways, the GTX480 was. That part looked rushed before, now what we see with this faster clocked and fully enabled part is just how rushed the GTX480 was.

The GTX580 is still slower than a 5970 more often than not. Of course there is the trade off of multi-GPU which may matter to some people but not others. If you are ok with multi-GPU set ups than the GTX580 is a bad buy, especially with current 5970 prices (for a single card) or 6870 and overclocked GTX460 prices (for multiple cards). If you want the fastest single GPU at any price, than this is your answer if you can stomach the current gouging.

It is pretty sad to see what some people here are posting... people who used to be so high on an SLI GTX460 set up vs. a 5870 now think CF 6870's vs. the GTX580 is a bad option due to being multi-GPU. I guess with new launches true colors come out. :/

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

Quoting this for if the 6000 series doesnt perform much better.

If Cayman isnt at least 30% faster it will be a failure

The thing here is like most people are saying, the GTX580 is simply what the 480 should have been if everything happened as Nvidia wanted, thats why the gains are "small"

Cayman on the other hand should be a full refresh, not just a "tweaked" 5870, so personally I am expecting ~50% more performance, specially in DX11

It is pretty sad to see what some people here are posting... people who used to be so high on an SLI GTX460 set up vs. a 5870 now think CF 6870's vs. the GTX580 is a bad option due to being multi-GPU. I guess with new launches true colors come out. :/

Speaking of which, looking at the Techreport review, crossfire 6870s have beastly scaling... Nearly 100% in every single game... If this follows through to the high end, we can expect some unreal numbers from the 6990

 

[biostud]

If you are going for a single card setup you can choose either 5970 or 580 and be happy, since price, performance, power usage etc. are pretty close. If you need more GPU power you choose 580 SLI since it most likely scales better than the 5970 xfire.

Then we just have to wait for 69xx to see how they perform and what they will be priced.

 

[SlowSpyder]

If Cayman isnt at least 30% faster it will be a failure

The thing here is like most people are saying, the GTX580 is simply what the 480 should have been if everything happened as Nvidia wanted, thats why the gains are "small"

Cayman on the other hand should be a full refresh, not just a "tweaked" 5870, so personally I am expecting ~50% more performance, specially in DX11

Yea, really the GTX580 is what Nvidia announced well over a year ago. I don't think it is so much that the GTX580 is a better part as much as it's a case of the GTX480 never was able to hit their announced specs. I am just talking about enabled units, we have no idea what clocks they wanted to launch at. But I doubt it was just 700MHz @ 250-300 watts of power use.

Cayman I think is a different situation. The 5870 was a decent part, though it is based off an older architecture. Assuming Cayman is indeed new or at least tweaked (Vec4 or whatever they are calling it) I would hope it's performance improvements are larger despite still being stuck on 40nm. I wouldn't go so far as to call it a failure if it's not 30% faster, but I think we'll all be left disappointed if it's only 15-20% faster than a 5870.

 

[96Firebird]

Back when the Radeon HD 6870/6850 launched, we were given a date for the Cayman debut. As we inch closer to it and nobody anywhere knows anything about it (board partners haven't seen cards, system builders are still in the dark), it begins to look like there may be delays. From what I've heard, AMD won't even be briefing its partners until after that original embargo date passes.

Either Tom's got sucked into the delayed rumor, or they know more than most...

 

[hclarkjr]

front page anandtech has their review up http://www.anandtech.com/show/4008/nvidias-geforce-gtx-580

 

[hclarkjr]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4008/nvidias-geforce-gtx-580

 

[MangoX]

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...iews/37789-nvidia-geforce-gtx-580-review.html

 

[hclarkjr]

how many are planning on buying this? to pricey for me

 

[Genx87]

If Cayman isnt at least 30% faster it will be a failure

The thing here is like most people are saying, the GTX580 is simply what the 480 should have been if everything happened as Nvidia wanted, thats why the gains are "small"

Cayman on the other hand should be a full refresh, not just a "tweaked" 5870, so personally I am expecting ~50% more performance, specially in DX11



Speaking of which, looking at the Techreport review, crossfire 6870s have beastly scaling... Nearly 100% in every single game... If this follows through to the high end, we can expect some unreal numbers from the 6990

You consider a refresh product on the same process with less power consumption, less noise, less transistors, and 15-20% more performance "small"?

If this was a new arch then I would agree. But this is a tweaked fermi. And I dont agree this is what the 480 should have been. If it was what the 480 was, then what would they have for the 580? That is like saying the 6800 series is what the 5000 series should have been.

 

[bryanW1995]

can we get a sticky?

this is the card that gtx 480 should have been.

10-15% better than gtx 480 plus 7db quieter at load, less power, less temp, good job! :thumbsup:

 

[bryanW1995]

I don't see the harm. So long as it doesn't interfere with over clocking or games they can limit till the cows come home (and I don't even own cows so that might be a while).

Though Furmark was handy for easily checking stability as it would report artifacts. Crysis works as well but I actually have to pay attention.

or you could just use "program X".

 

[bryanW1995]

Oh geez.....

Who cares? If performs how it is supposed to, then it isn't a problem.



Overall this looks like a win for nV.

how dare you impugn silverforce's motives??? HOW DARE YOU??? silverforce is a bastion of impartiality, and he is busily working on the magic driver for 6870 as we speak.

 

[bryanW1995]

Thank you!

A review that finally includes 1280x1024 on the new hardware! So very helpful to my situation. Really really really really wish Anand would do the same! Ya know, we aren't all enthusiasts out here =P

Looks like a great card to stir the competition! Keep it comin' red and green =)

you're gaming at 1280x1024 and you are looking at gtx 580?

 

[happy medium]

2% faster 5970?

Quote:
" Knowing this, would we take it over the GTX 580? No, but the reason for this is actually a bit more complicated than some simple graphs would have you believe. You see, it took nearly a year for the HD 5970 to reach the performance level it currently boasts and there have been plenty of teething problems along the way. Dual GPU cards also live and die by driver support and all too many times users have to wait months to enjoy full performance in the newest games. Granted, AMD’s Catalyst app profiles have done a lot to alleviate this issue but we will always choose a single GPU solution over Crossfire, SLI or even dual core cards like the HD 5970.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...s/37789-nvidia-geforce-gtx-580-review-24.html

Game set match.

 

[Red Storm]

Glad to see those power and temp numbers take a nosedive! Considering the card's position (high end), I find the change from 480 to 580 pretty impressive.

Now bring on Cayman, I am really looking forward to seeing how the two compare. :awe:

 

[Grooveriding]

You embarress yourself by posting that. Not that most folks don't write off your posts immediately anyways. You made endless threads ranting about 460 SLI being the second coming. Not that any forum goers here will be surprised by this considering it is nv.

5970 is still faster than a 580.

I think it's about time for a thread comparing 6870 crossfire and it's amazing scaling and low price against the overpriced GTX 485(580) refresh.

2% faster 5970?

Quote:
" Knowing this, would we take it over the GTX 580? No, but the reason for this is actually a bit more complicated than some simple graphs would have you believe. You see, it took nearly a year for the HD 5970 to reach the performance level it currently boasts and there have been plenty of teething problems along the way. Dual GPU cards also live and die by driver support and all too many times users have to wait months to enjoy full performance in the newest games. Granted, AMD’s Catalyst app profiles have done a lot to alleviate this issue but we will always choose a single GPU solution over Crossfire, SLI or even dual core cards like the HD 5970.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...s/37789-nvidia-geforce-gtx-580-review-24.html

Game set match.

Personal attacks and insults are not acceptable.

Re: "You embarress yourself by posting that. Not that most folks don't write off your posts immediately anyways. You made endless threads ranting"

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