GTX700 series reviews thread

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Erenhardt

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It's going to be interesting to see how well Nvidia's integrated memory controller and ROPs scale when the reviewers try to overclock the 7000 MT/s binned GDDR5.

If they can get it to 8000 MT/s it would be amazing. I'm really interested to see what the limit of the IMC and ROPs are though.

 

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It's going to be interesting to see how well Nvidia's integrated memory controller and ROPs scale when the reviewers try to overclock the 7000 MT/s binned GDDR5.

If they can get it to 8000 MT/s it would be amazing. I'm really interested to see what the limit of the IMC and ROPs are though.

I'm guessing somewhere around 7400-7500 is going to be the max for error free operation. Still though, 7400+MHz should help scaling up to and maybe a little beyond 1300mhz core overclocks.the tdp being significantly higher than gtx680 indicates the vram is using some serious juice!
 

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That is a monster overclock but who knows if that is error free operation though. GDDR5 will continue to clock higher beyond stable operations and produce errors, resulting in a decrease in performance instead of crashing (up to a certain extent).

Also, anyone can set their memory speed to that and take a gpu-z screenshot.
 

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Don't you think the 780 is going to hurt Titan sales? It's definitely priced to protect the cards below it, but I don't see it being priced close enough to Titan to get many people to choose the Titan over it.

Yes I still think it will hurt Titan sales. But I don't think Nvidia could have priced the 780 any higher. I think they priced it as high as they possibly could. Since I am not privy to the details of how many titan cards are in stock, I can't say what the extent of the effect is. I ASSUME though, Nvidia talked with its vendors, knows the stock of titan, and priced/released the GTX 780 accordingly so that vendors could clear remaining Titan stock and still sell the lower end cards.

What I mean by this is, if vendors are already running low on Titan cards, then even with hurt sales, they could still sell the rest.

However, I think you're right, it's more about the cards under it than above it (ie Titan). I think that's because the volume of the cards below it more than makes up for their price, so if you're going to protect something protect your big money makers, rather than your niche 1,000 graphics card market.

Speculation on all of this, but I can't see it any other way.
 

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It took every once of strength in my body to not buy the GTX 780 lol.

I finally talked myself out of it because I don't want to drain my loop and buy a block etc. That GTX 780 ACX card is so tempting though even besting the Titan in a lot of games.

I´m exactly in the same situation, have a single 680 now and it runs everything well enough, I just don´t want to go through the hassle of adding it to my WC loop, not to mention the price. A second 680 also seems like a good option, although I promised myself a long time ago that I wouldn´t go dual GPU ever again.
 

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from what i hear, sli for the 600 series is very good. I dont think i would bother with it myself but i do hear good things.
 

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I dont think the 770 will come out at 400. There are plenty of 680s that have to be sold still. I would love to see it that cheap but realistically i dont see it.

I am excited mostly for the turbo2 on the 770. I think it could be decent. I also am a firm believer that in a few months prices should start coming down on all the GPUs. It is shaping up to be a great Q3-Q4. As much as i want something new, the set up is looking good for some price wars in the future. i dont know, but at least things are happening. I love GPUs
 

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1300 is not real impressive as most 670 and 680 cards can do pretty close to that.

Yeah but most 680's don't scale well because their vram tops out between 6600-7100mhz, with a few golden samples hitting ~7200-7250mhz. This card's vram is benched at over 8000mhz!!! That is more than a 33% bandwidth increase over a 680! If 8000mhz on a 770 is as common as 7000mhz is on 680's and 670's, then that 1300mhz core gets to spread it's wings and will be a heck of a performer.
 

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Yeah but most 680's don't scale well because their vram tops out between 6600-7100mhz, with a few golden samples hitting ~7200-7250mhz. This card's vram is benched at over 8000mhz!!! That is more than a 33% bandwidth increase over a 680! If 8000mhz on a 770 is as common as 7000mhz is on 680's and 670's, then that 1300mhz core gets to spread it's wings and will be a heck of a performer.
the typical oc will have to be much higher for me to consider it though. its going likely be a $450 card which is twice what I paid for my gtx660ti. when both are oced that 770 is only going to be about 30% faster than what I already have. plus I do think 2gb of vram might be a limitation within a year and that just too much money to risk it.
 

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the typical oc will have to be much higher for me to consider it though. its going likely be a $450 card which is twice what I paid for my gtx660ti. when both are oced that 770 is only going to be about 30% faster than what I already have. plus I do think 2gb of vram might be a limitation within a year and that just too much money to risk it.

Oh I definitely agree for anyone that already has your level of performance. Not worth the upgrade at the $450 expected price, but the ram running at that speed is damn impressive nonetheless.
 

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Oh I definitely agree for anyone that already has your level of performance. Not worth the upgrade at the $450 expected price, but the ram running at that speed is damn impressive nonetheless.

Yes, having the IMC and ROPs capable of error free operation at 7000+ is what will allow proper scaling before GDDR6 hits in force.

I think if Nvidia would do a 8+8 pin 300w TDP 7000 MT/s GDDR5 SKU of Titan, it will scale as well as the GTX 780 is able to.

Everyone thinking about AMD vs Nvidia, remember that one of these companies has this guy as the unquestioned leader of the company.

http://youtu.be/hqiBzmuqPNY?t=35m53s

The other company is run by Mr. Six Sigma from IBM, one of the most risk-averse technology companies that is still around.

I'm not joking by the way, I MEAN Six Sigma when I say it.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rory-read/8/321/243
 
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sontin

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Anandtech did a OC test with the GTX780. And because we know certain people who like to compare OC cards against other cards with standard clock the GTX780 OC is

66% faster in Shogun 2
26,4% faster in Hitman:Ab
61% faster in BF3
50% faster in Bioshock Infinity
45,5% faster in Crysis 3

than the 7970GHz. Average is 50%.

Not bad for only a 44% higher price.
 

MrK6

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Anandtech did a OC test with the GTX780. And because we know certain people who like to compare OC cards against other cards with standard clock the GTX780 OC is

66% faster in Shogun 2
26,4% faster in Hitman:Ab
61% faster in BF3
50% faster in Bioshock Infinity
45,5% faster in Crysis 3

than the 7970GHz. Average is 50%.

Not bad for only a 44% higher price.
But it was a stock clocked 7970GHz and not an overclocked one. You're artificially limiting the 7970GHz either because you don't understand how simple math works or you're purposefully being dishonest. Which is it?
 

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What is the average overclock for a 7970 GE? 1150-1200Mhz? would be interested to see a comparison.
 

MrK6

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I think you did not get the sarcasm.
It has nothing to do with your sarcasm, the point you were (unsuccessfully) trying to make is still wrong.
What is the average overclock for a 7970 GE? 1150-1200Mhz? would be interested to see a comparison.
I like to use hwbot.org as a means of comparison, under the assumption that people submitting there have a better idea of how hardware works than the average "enthusiast." That said, I think the averages for cards are a mean low, being that not every submitted score is shooting for the absolute maximum clocks. Anyway, 7970 (GHz included) is 1209MHz on air (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/radeon_hd_7970/) and Titan (no data on 780 yet) is 1066MHz (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/geforce_gtx_titan/).
 
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sontin

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I did not make a point. I used the same logic like certain other people who use the OC ability of the 7970 to justify the former MSRP of the 7970.
 

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I did not make a point. I used the same logic like certain other people who use the OC ability of the 7970 to justify the former MSRP of the 7970.

People justified the former MSRP of the 7970 because it was faster and cheaper than the 3gb gtx580. Why do people keep conveniently forgetting this simple fact.

When the gtx680 launched and was faster the 7970's prices adjusted accordingly.
 

raghu78

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People justified the former MSRP of the 7970 because it was faster and cheaper than the 3gb gtx580. Why do people keep conveniently forgetting this simple fact.

When the gtx680 launched and was faster the 7970's prices adjusted accordingly.

its more like wilfully ignoring facts. but you know the reason too. :biggrin:
 
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