GTX700 series reviews thread

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Vesku

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The changes question was in reference to the graphics chip itself. The memory speed is right in the spec, so no real speculation there.
 

raghu78

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No, partner have the choice how they design the cards. So they only buying GPUs and memory from nVidia and using their own platine design.

There are few companies going with the reference design but i think we will see much more custom designs.

First they will ignore it. And after AMD cut their prices and giving you a new PS3, Xbox One and Haswell CPU for free they will say how nVidia is ripping of their "fanbois".

these cards are close competitors. anandtech calls it a tie. hardwarecanucks calls it a tie. same with tomshardware.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...369-nvidia-geforce-gtx-770-2gb-review-13.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-770-gk104-review,3519-31.html

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/896-22/recapitulatif-performances.html

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Gefor.../Tests/Geforce-GTX-770-Test-Review-1071496/3/

with the game bundle HD 7970 Ghz is still a very good buy. if you can't see it, get some perspective which you seriously lack. :whiste:
 

zebrax2

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The 770 looks good on its price point. I am actually surprised there is such a huge price/performance gap between 780 and 770
 

sontin

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these cards are close competitors. anandtech calls it a tie. hardwarecanucks calls it a tie. same with tomshardware.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...369-nvidia-geforce-gtx-770-2gb-review-13.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-770-gk104-review,3519-31.html

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/896-22/recapitulatif-performances.html

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Gefor.../Tests/Geforce-GTX-770-Test-Review-1071496/3/

with the game bundle HD 7970 Ghz is still a very good buy. if you can't see it, get some perspective which you seriously lack. :whiste:

"With the game bundle" everyone can buy at ebay for what $40?
And what is with people who don't care about those games? :hmm:
 

raghu78

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"With the game bundle" everyone can buy at ebay for what $40? And what is with people who don't care about those games? :hmm:

doesn't change anything. these cards are still on par in performance. the choice is down to the user. AMD has 1GB extra VRAM (with next gen consoles having massive 8GB unified RAM for CPU+GPU, 2GB might just not cut it at even 1080p), better performance with multi monitor and better compute / OpenCL performance. Also you think AMD does not have new titles lined up for Q3 and Q4 with their game bundles.

http://techreport.com/news/24620/battlefield-4-to-join-amd-never-settle-bundles

They already stated BF4 is a part of an upcoming game bundle :whiste:
 

smackababy

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The 770 looks good on its price point. I am actually surprised there is such a huge price/performance gap between 780 and 770

I am surprised we don't have a thread on this yet. But speculation of the 770 @ $399 is a good deal. I wonder if the actual release of the 770 will bring the 780 price down any. I know the 680 price will be dropping because of it.
 

sontin

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So know we are talking about future game bundles which people will not get when they buy a 7970GHz today... :|

Alle the other points are worthless. Nobody cares about "Compute performance" or using a 7970GHz for Multimonitor gaming with all effects.
Maybe i should throw PhysX and 3D Vision into the discussion...

In the end it's simple: A GTX770 costs less than the 7970GHz if you don't care about the game bundle and the same if you buy it.
 

96Firebird

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I am surprised we don't have a thread on this yet. But speculation of the 770 @ $399 is a good deal. I wonder if the actual release of the 770 will bring the 780 price down any. I know the 680 price will be dropping because of it.

The 770 is released, you can get it at retailers everywhere. It just came out today.
 

Rvenger

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In the end it's simple: A GTX770 costs less than the 7970GHz if you don't care about the game bundle and the same if you buy it.


Don't forget about less VRAM. That will catch up sooner or later.
 

BallaTheFeared

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I take it nVidia has insider information, I don't think they expect a refresh from AMD at all.

Their refresh consisted of two new products, only one of which is even semi reasonable price wise, and the rest seem to be rebrands.
 

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I thought about it. But i think 2GB is enough because the card is not fast enough for future games anyway.

Perhaps, but Anandtech did mention that 4GB variants of GTX 770 will be available soon for a small price premium ($20-$30?).
 

wand3r3r

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I thought about it. But i think 2GB is enough because the card is not fast enough for future games anyway.
Why buy it if it's not going to handle future games? Presumably you'd want 2 years out of it.
 

A5

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Wonder if there will be a gtx760 ti?

$300 and besting the gtx670 maybe if it is released?

I don't see any reason for them to not turn over the whole upper end of the lineup. That would seem to be a pretty good guess.
 

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Wonder when the 760ti will be out. That should prove interesting, price-wise at least. It could be the card that upsets AMDs apple-cart. As far as strategies are concerned, at least for AMD in the run-up to their 8 series cards, I think they still have room to maneuver. ie, come out with a 7950ghz ed and ditch the standard 7970 from their line-up. As a potential response to a $299 760ti at least.
 

ams23

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So, GTX 770 is faster, cheaper and consumes less power than HD 7970 GHz.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_770/

I wonder how AMD fanboys will promote not to buy this card this time? :whiste:

It does appear that the GTX 770 is just slightly faster than 7970 GHz Ed. on average (even when looking at the Anandtech review), but the differences on average are quite small (~ 2-4% performance improvement). Not bad for less money and lower power consumption though.

Did you notice that the Max Overclocking Performance from the non-reference GTX 770 designs are quite a bit higher than the reference GTX 770? The Gigabyte GTX 770, Asus GTX 770 DC II, and Palit GTX 770 JetStream are about 10% faster at max overclock compared to reference card at max overclock (and in turn are about 20% faster at max overclock compared to reference card at stock clocks). See the Maximum Overclock Comparison here: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_770/30.html
 
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raghu78

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So know we are talking about future game bundles which people will not get when they buy a 7970GHz today... :|

Alle the other points are worthless. Nobody cares about "Compute performance" or using a 7970GHz for Multimonitor gaming with all effects.
Maybe i should throw PhysX and 3D Vision into the discussion...

In the end it's simple: A GTX770 costs less than the 7970GHz if you don't care about the game bundle and the same if you buy it.

to you the extra VRAM is worthless. but others consider 2GB as shortsighted

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6994/nvidia-geforce-gtx-770-review/3

"The wildcard in all of this will be the next-generation consoles, each of which packs 8GB of RAM, which is quite a lot of RAM for video operations even after everything else is accounted for. With most PC games being ports of console games, there’s a decent risk of 2GB cards being undersized when used with high resolutions and the highest quality art assets. The worst case scenario is only that these highest quality assets may not be usable at playable performance, but considering the high performance of every other aspect of GTX 770 that would be a distinct and unfortunate bottleneck."
 

notty22

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Wizard's conclusion :http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_770/32.html
NVIDIA's $400 price point is a great choice in taking this segment by storm. With current pricing, AMD is not competitive at all. The Radeon HD 7970 is slightly cheaper, but much slower, and the HD 7970 GHz Edition is more expensive and slower. Both AMD cards also lose to NVIDIA's recent offerings when looking at power consumption and noise. The only thing they bring to the table is the rich Never Settle game bundle. The GTX 770 will also affect NVIDIA's own lineup. The GTX 680 is suddenly completely undesirable at its current price, and I would buy the GTX 770 over the GTX 670 any day, as long as the GTX 670 remains at a $370 price point, but even "last-generation" GTX 600 Series cards could become an interesting buy if NVIDIA pulls off price reductions across a wider range of products. It's not like the GTX 700 adds any essential features that gamers will miss out on by buying older GeForce cards.
 

sontin

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The safe habour would be 6GB. And the only cards with 6GB at the market are one 7970 and Titans.

So nobody is safe until we know what the next gen consoles will bring to the pc market. And that is more than 5 months away from today.
 

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It does appear that the GTX 770 is just slightly faster than 7970 GHz Ed. on average (even when looking at the Anandtech review), but the differences on average are quite small (~ 2-4% performance improvement). Not bad for less money and lower power consumption though.

Did you notice that the Max Overclocking Performance from the non-reference GTX 770 designs are quite a bit higher than the reference GTX 770? The Gigabyte GTX 770, Asus GTX 770 DC II, and Palit GTX 770 JetStream are about 10% faster at max overclock compared to reference card at max overclock (and in turn are about 20% faster at max overclock compared to reference card at stock clocks). See the Maximum Overclock Comparison here: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_770/30.html

Board Partners are allowed to set different TDP power limit in bios.

You can do the same thing with reference with bios editing.
 

BallaTheFeared

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As if an extra GB would make any difference in that scenario.

PS4 will have a hard time saturating that shared system and graphic buffer, simply because it lacks the bandwidth and raw gpu power to use it.
 
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