GTX700 series reviews thread

[ams23]

to you the extra VRAM is worthless. but others consider 2GB as shortsighted

I don't think there is any evidence that GTX 680 and GTX 770 will have significantly improved longevity with 4GB RAM vs. 2GB RAM. That said, Anandtech already mentioned that 4GB variants of GTX 770 will be available soon for a small price premium.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

nVidia is pretty good about single card buffers, the only issue I've found is when you move into SLI and even Tri the reference buffer fails to scale with the gpu power.

 

[ams23]

Board Partners are allowed to set different TDP power limit in bios.

You can do the same thing with reference with bios editing.

True. Is the difference in Maximum Overclocking Performance for the Gigabyte/Asus/Palit GTX 770 cards related to thermal limit, TDP limit, or a combination of both?

 

[smackababy]

The 770 is released, you can get it at retailers everywhere. It just came out today.

Sorry, didn't realize this. I only saw the press release that claimed it would be "less than $400" in the US and had EU pricing. Thought it was a paper launch.

I don't think there is any evidence that GTX 680 and GTX 770 will have significantly improved longevity with 4GB RAM vs. 2GB RAM. That said, Anandtech already mentioned that 4GB variants of GTX 770 will be available soon for a small price premium.

Small price premium meaning $100? Because I think that is the price increase I've noticed.

 

[24601]

True. Is the difference in Maximum Overclocking Performance for the Gigabyte/Asus/Palit GTX 770 cards related to thermal limit, TDP limit, or a combination of both?

Titan Reference cooler is without a doubt better than Dual Slot DirectCUII

The problem is that Titan Reference cooler does not ramp its speed automatically very high, so you need to force it with something like MSI Afterburner.

This is also something easy to change in bios.

 

[ams23]

Small price premium meaning $100? Because I think that is the price increase I've noticed.

Anandtech claimed $20-$30 price premium in their review, but I have no idea how they came up with that number. Maybe that is cost of memory, which would translate to $100 retail price premium and would no longer be a small price premium!

 

[smackababy]

Anandtech claimed $20-$30 price premium in their review, but I have no idea how they came up with that number. Maybe that is cost of memory, which would translate to $100 retail price premium and would no longer be a small price premium!

I would hope for a $20-30 price premium, but based on trends that is very low. I guess we will see when they start to come out.

 

[notty22]

There have been more refinements to non-gaming power states. Multi-monitor, and gpu video acceleration power use is improved.

Non-gaming power consumption has been advanced further by adding a new clock state that runs 135 MHz GPU clock, which is a good improvement over the 300 MHz we've seen before. This move helps NVIDIA gain even more of an advantage over AMD; AMD definitely needs to improve in this area.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Palit/GeForce_GTX_770_Jet_Stream/25.html

 

[Vesku]

Hmm, I'm wary of very low multi-monitor power states due to a bad experiences with the GT 450. Hopefully they've worked out getting stuck in lower power states by now.

 

[raghu78]

As if an extra GB would make any difference in that scenario.

PS4 will have a hard time saturating that shared system and graphic buffer, simply because it lacks the bandwidth and raw gpu power to use it.

first of all the PS4 reserves 1 GB for OS. Xbox One reserves 3GB as it has 2 OSes running on virtual machines - Xbox OS and Windows . see 9:43 for question on RAM

https://www.gameinformer.com/b/feat...-ones-chief-product-officer-marc-whitten.aspx

CPU based game code and assets like ( physics / collision representation, AI, sound, network related and finally cutscene videos) would still take quite a bit of memory.

Since developers would develop for the lowest common denominator - Xbox One with 5GB , you are still looking at maybe 2 GB for CPU and the remaining 3GB for GPU.

huge texture sizes require VRAM and not shading power. I ran Rage on my PC with 8k x 8k textures on my HD 6950 2GB. obviously I could not have done that on HD 6950 1GB. I would have the same shading power but would run out of VRAM.

also 176 Gb/s is more than enough for a console. heck a GTX 680 has 192 Gb/s.

 

[notty22]

I turned off my htpc for the summer and running 2 monitors and a TV with a gtx660 and no problems.
Metro LL before a patch would sense the wrong monitor. The game developers need to include a option in menu to select what monitor to start the game on , for ultimate usage scenario's. I've seen it in offered in some games, to few.

 

[SirPauly]

It's good to see AIB differentiation with the OC GTX 770 editions and their over-clocks that rivaled GTX 780 performance based on three factory OC reviews from Techpowerup.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

m

lol.

 

[Carfax83]

I thought about it. But i think 2GB is enough because the card is not fast enough for future games anyway.

LOL what do you mean not fast enough for future games?

I still play all the latest games at close to, or completely maxed out details on my GTX 580s. The GTX 770 will last a long time, especially if you go SLI.

I was thinking about GTX 780 SLI, but the thought of dropping over a grand on GPUs doesn't sit well with me. The 770s are a much better bargain, until AMD comes out with the 8000 series and forces NVidia to do a price drop.

 

[Daedalus685]

A Gigabyte GTX770 OC 4GB just popped up on NCIX for $40(CND) more than the identical 2GB version. Not a terrible mark up.

 

[raghu78]

lol.

what do you mean ? i don't get your codes.

 

[Gikaseixas]

Fantastic card at this price point, the best buy right now. Simply delicious and makes even the 780 looks way overpriced. I rather spend 800 and go the SLI way while enjoying much better performance than Titan.

 

[tential]

So I was told to wait (by ocre? and tomshardware dropped a hint as well) and I was willing to and the GTX 770 appears. Figures as much. So I didn't pull the trigger on a 7970 vanilla and this pops up.
I read the review, looked at the benches, but just want to see what ya'll think.

-Will the 2 GB on the GTX 770 hold it back moving forward?

I think anandtech brings up a solid point. Textures are going to get more and more detailed. Skyrim with all mods looks BEAUTIFUL and takes up a ton of VRam in the process. I'm expecting games to move in this direction. Will the 770 hold up 2 years from now, or will the 7970 still be the best bet?

-Considering this, is the GTX 770 really a better value than the 7970?

I know I'm going to get a lot of fanboy response types, so if it helps simplify it for yourself and ask yourself this:

Given your favorite of the two cards (GTX 770 or 7970), how much is the minimum ram you think the card needs? for the next 2 years at 1080p 2GB, 3GB, or 4GB.

 

[Carfax83]

Fantastic card at this price point, the best buy right now. Simply delicious and makes even the 780 looks way overpriced. I rather spend 800 and go the SLI way while enjoying much better performance than Titan.

Yeah, I can't believe NVidia actually priced the card at 399 :awe:

The performance of this card is amazing at such a price point..

 

[Vesku]

Amazing is over stating it.

 

[sushiwarrior]

Yeah, I can't believe NVidia actually priced the card at 399 :awe:

The performance of this card is amazing at such a price point..

Amazing in that it ties a 7970 which sells for roughly the same price?...

 

[24601]

So I was told to wait (by ocre? and tomshardware dropped a hint as well) and I was willing to and the GTX 770 appears. Figures as much. So I didn't pull the trigger on a 7970 vanilla and this pops up.
I read the review, looked at the benches, but just want to see what ya'll think.

-Will the 2 GB on the GTX 770 hold it back moving forward?

I think anandtech brings up a solid point. Textures are going to get more and more detailed. Skyrim with all mods looks BEAUTIFUL and takes up a ton of VRam in the process. I'm expecting games to move in this direction. Will the 770 hold up 2 years from now, or will the 7970 still be the best bet?

-Considering this, is the GTX 770 really a better value than the 7970?

I know I'm going to get a lot of fanboy response types, so if it helps simplify it for yourself and ask yourself this:

Given your favorite of the two cards (GTX 770 or 7970), how much is the minimum ram you think the card needs? for the next 2 years at 1080p 2GB, 3GB, or 4GB.

If the 2 gB of extra 7000 MT/s GDDR5 is only 40 USD or less, then I would absolutely get the 4 gB version IF you don't plan on upgrading for more than 1.5 years.

If you plan on upgrading early on in the 20nm cycle then its pretty pointless.

 

[Carfax83]

-Will the 2 GB on the GTX 770 hold it back moving forward?

If you're so worried about VRAM, then buy the 4GB model..

I think anandtech brings up a solid point. Textures are going to get more and more detailed. Skyrim with all mods looks BEAUTIFUL and takes up a ton of VRam in the process. I'm expecting games to move in this direction. Will the 770 hold up 2 years from now, or will the 7970 still be the best bet?

You can't really use modded games as a measuring stick though. Skyrim is also DX9, so the texture compression isn't as efficient as what can be found in DX11 games.

Considering this, is the GTX 770 really a better value than the 7970?

Yes it is, because you get added bonuses like PhysX and 3D Vision. Plus SLI is still superior to Crossfire last time I checked. And even more importantly, the 770 is quite a bit faster than the 7970 at all resolutions.

Given your favorite of the two cards (GTX 770 or 7970), how much is the minimum ram you think the card needs? for the next 2 years at 1080p 2GB, 3GB, or 4GB.

I can play Crysis 3 at very high settings @ 1440p on my GTX 580 SLI rig, and that only has 1.5GB of VRAM. DX11 games have much better texture compression than DX9, so the textures don't take up as much space.

That said, I personally will be going for the 4GB models just to be on the safe side..

 

[Carfax83]

Amazing in that it ties a 7970 which sells for roughly the same price?...

Ties a 7970? What review did you read?

 

[Smartazz]

The 770 with 4GB would be pretty good, but this card is so ridiculously late. I would have gladly paid a $150 premium to have owned a 7970 a year and a half ago.