GTX700 series reviews thread

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BallaTheFeared

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Lol, that was the cumulative result of 4-6 review sites posted a few pages back. You want to argue with their testing methodology, take it up with them.

No I just don't care about it, if that's how you want to end the discussion that's fine with me.

Personally I'll use more practical and representative results that would reflect my usage more similarly.


If I want to know how boost 2.0 performs when being hotboxed in summer with stock cpu's I'll know where to look now, thanks.
 

96Firebird

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I'm okay with rabid fanboys. It's just when we are constantly spammed by marketers it really ruins the forums.

I love hearing about how you spent $260 on your 7950 that can match any card out there and it came with 3 free games... But it gets old.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=35057163&postcount=414

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=35041370&postcount=52

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=35038119&postcount=1072

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=35018486&postcount=602

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=35008303&postcount=442

Pot calling the kettle? :whiste:
 

Jaydip

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There is another funny thing, NV threads run long love it, hate it people just can't stop discussing about NV
 

BallaTheFeared

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Nope, since it's a new sku based on an old chip that was overclocked GHz itself is not an overclocked gpu. It's just based on an overclocked previously released sku, there is nothing different it's just clocked higher.
 

Erenhardt

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Nope, since it's a new sku based on an old chip that was overclocked GHz itself is not an overclocked gpu. It's just based on an overclocked previously released sku, there is nothing different it's just clocked higher.

I still fail to see how GHz edition is different to kepler boost...
 

Elfear

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No I just don't care about it, if that's how you want to end the discussion that's fine with me.

Personally I'll use more practical and representative results that would reflect my usage more similarly.


If I want to know how boost 2.0 performs when being hotboxed in summer with stock cpu's I'll know where to look now, thanks.

Of course you have to find the reviews that best represent your usage, but those reviews are far from impractical. Most users don't run watercooling or mess with bios flashes.

You'd have to consider the same thing for the 7970 though. Watercooling really let's them fly.
 

Face2Face

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You'd have to consider the same thing for the 7970 though. Watercooling really let's them fly.

I can see a watercooled 7970 @ 1300-1350Mhz beating or meeting a stock GTX 780 in synthetic benchmarks. Don't think it would in games though :hmm:
 

omeds

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So is reference 780 oc'ing as well as (or near to) say the Gigabyte OC or EVGA SC versions when oc'd?
 

BallaTheFeared

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Of course you have to find the reviews that best represent your usage, but those reviews are far from impractical. Most users don't run watercooling or mess with bios flashes.

You'd have to consider the same thing for the 7970 though. Watercooling really let's them fly.

No and I wasn't applying that, which is what I would be doing of course which gives them a bit more "umph".

Well I didn't personally, I went with TF3 coolers instead. No big complaints for air cooling they do quite well (even with less than ideal x8x8 spacing), from what I've seen from others I'd probably gain another 50-75MHz on water, nothing to ignore of course (plus water is even more awesomer in dual gpu configs)!
 

MrK6

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I can see a watercooled 7970 @ 1300-1350Mhz beating or meeting a stock GTX 780 in synthetic benchmarks. Don't think it would in games though :hmm:
It would depend on the game tbh, as the performance could range from still being behind, to matching it, to even being faster.
 

BallaTheFeared

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If only someone here had such a card to do 1350Mhz on water and post a 3Dmark11 so we could get a baseline over stock GHz and compare that to this new card... if only..
 

omeds

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Thanks for this!

This sku is solid over the default sku. I like this sku!

I was going to go reference, but I'm thinking I'll grab a pair of the these ^ Hopefully my case has enough air flow to remove the heat.
 

SirPauly

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I was curious why EVGA did get this kind of speed increase:


So what did EVGA do to make their card so fast—faster than the much more expensive GTX Titan? First of all, they increased the GPU clocks by more than 100 MHz (130 MHz higher than Titan). Unfortunately, memory clock is unchanged, which would have been an easy extra boost. Our manual overclocking confirms that there would be plenty of headroom for that. Now, the secret sauce seem to be the operating temperatures. NVIDIA designed their Boost 2.0 algorithm with temperatures in mind: if the card goes beyond 80°C, Boost 2.0 will reduce clocks to ensure the card stays around that temperature target. EVGA realized that and designed a cooler that ensures the card will never reach 80°C to keep the additional throttling from taking effect. Just having a good cooler is not enough, you also need to find the right fan speed settings. It's easy to stay below 80°C with a fan that sounds like a leaf blower, and EVGA picked decent fan settings that are just as quiet as the reference cooler without falling into the 80°C performance hole.
EVGA's cooler is also one of the better-looking custom designs, but I do not think it cannot compete with NVIDIA's reference design cooler visually, which is without a doubt the best-looking one in the industry. EVGA was wise to choose matte colors and metal highlights to keep the cooler from looking plasticky. In terms of cooling performance, the ACX cooler is definitely a step forward: It improves temperatures while keeping noise levels in check. EVGA also highlights that it uses ball bearings while most other VGA card fans use sleeve bearings. On paper, ball bearings have a longer lifespan, but I seriously doubt there is a significant difference for a product that will only be used for a few years tops. Technically, ball bearings are noisier than sleeve bearings, but this doesn't seem to be an issue on EVGA's cooler. I do wish the card came with a backplate. Granted, unlike the GTX Titan, which has memory chips on the backside, the GTX 780 has nothing to cool, but a backplate would have certainly helped with the visual appearance of the card.
 

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^Man--maybe I should have gone with the Evga ACX cooler when it was in stock. Instead I chose the reference Evga. Paid $5 for shipping and I got it today, so that was kind of cool.
 

Elfear

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I can see a watercooled 7970 @ 1300-1350Mhz beating or meeting a stock GTX 780 in synthetic benchmarks. Don't think it would in games though :hmm:

A 7970@1350 would be 25-30% faster than a Ghz card. If the stock 780 is only 15% faster on average, then I'm thinking the 7970 would have no problem beating it. It would depend on the game of course (since the 780 monsters Tahiti in some games) but on average the 7970 would be faster by a decent margin.
 

Nate_007

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Thanks for this!

This sku is solid over the default sku. I like this sku!

Nice! I might just get this, my case has enough airflow I'm sure. Plus I have H100 for my my gpu will be the only one producing most of the heat.
 

omeds

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I was curious why EVGA did get this kind of speed increase:

So essentially you could get exactly the same results with a reference model if it was kept cool? The EVGA model hasn't been speed binned/cherry picked etc, and has an identical PCB to the reference model right?

If that's the case, I'm happy to go with reference as the stock cooler is very quiet to begin with, so I don't mind creating a custom fan profile with faster speeds.
 

BallaTheFeared

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Plus if you keep it cool and aren't running a stock cpu you should see much more than 15% over the 7970.

ABT used a higher temp setting and was able to get over around 28% faster on avg vs the GHz without any overclocking.
 

BallaTheFeared

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What's the overall performance advantage for the 780 in their tests?

We can extrapolate a silly baseline from that!


It looks like a balls out 1350 7970 will be pretty close overall to the baseline 780, with preliminary on air overclocks for the 780 gaining over 31% on itself it's tough it really say much has changed except needing to win the silicon lottery with the 7970.

With water and a new vbios it's possible that gap could open up well over 40%, perhaps even 50% on a water cooled 1350Mhz 7970.

Should be interesting to see, I'll watch some of the more bench friendly forums to see how that plays out.
 
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