Happiest cities to live in 2025

Fenixgoon

Lifer
Jun 30, 2003
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New York is number 17? Seems like they missed a couple zeros in that number.
Perhaps a financial and cultural center of the country isn't the hellscape that everyone in rural America thinks it is?

Just because YOU don't want to live there, doesn't mean it's a terrible place to live.

Notice how every city on the list...is..well...a city. They're not towns or villages. These are major metro areas.

And again, YOU might not want that. That's fine. But don't pretend other people don't enjoy living in a city - because clearly people do, or they wouldn't exist in the first place.
 

biostud

Lifer
Feb 27, 2003
19,602
6,657
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Perhaps a financial and cultural center of the country isn't the hellscape that everyone in rural America thinks it is?

Just because YOU don't want to live there, doesn't mean it's a terrible place to live.

Notice how every city on the list...is..well...a city. They're not towns or villages. These are major metro areas.

And again, YOU might not want that. That's fine. But don't pretend other people don't enjoy living in a city - because clearly people do, or they wouldn't exist in the first place.
Personally I've moved away from both Copenhagen an Aarhus to live in a smaller town ~3500 people, as I prefer a more quiet neighborhood closer to nature. I grew up in the suburbs to Copenhagen.
 
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dainthomas

Lifer
Dec 7, 2004
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I've been to three of those: Singapore, Vancouver, and Minneapolis. And while they're all delightful, I'm curious about the methodology used to achieve these rankings.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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I recently caught myself watching some Americans overseas videos and it's amazing..

Americans living abroad who described how they learnt how to relax and the absence of constant stress, a stress they didn’t know they felt until it was removed. One woman described it as no longer checking out where the emergency exits where when she went to the cinema in case of a shooting.

They are blown away that the NHS exists - they can't believe French high speed rail exists - the German autobahn zipper system for merging when you hit traffic requires a discipline they have never seen.

It's like they're waking up that life as a passport bro is so much better than living in a shithole country!
 
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Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
21,816
6,227
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Personally I've moved away from both Copenhagen an Aarhus to live in a smaller town ~3500 people, as I prefer a more quiet neighborhood closer to nature. I grew up in the suburbs to Copenhagen.
I did much the same thing. Bay Area is over 8 million now, everything had an added layer of hassle and stress. It all seems normal until you go where it isn't crowded and discover how relaxed life can be.
Now almost everything I need is within 2 miles of me. The few things that aren't right here are within 12 miles of me. All of the things that used to be a time consuming hassle are now quick and easy.
Clearly a lot of people enjoy city life, but I often wonder if it's just because they haven't tried small town life?
 

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
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Now almost everything I need is within 2 miles of me. The few things that aren't right here are within 12 miles of me. All of the things that used to be a time consuming hassle are now quick and easy.

I've got that down to about half a mile since moving back to Chicago.

Clearly a lot of people enjoy city life, but I often wonder if it's just because they haven't tried small town life?

This is like a number one reason a lot of people move to large cities.
 

biostud

Lifer
Feb 27, 2003
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I did much the same thing. Bay Area is over 8 million now, everything had an added layer of hassle and stress. It all seems normal until you go where it isn't crowded and discover how relaxed life can be.
Now almost everything I need is within 2 miles of me. The few things that aren't right here are within 12 miles of me. All of the things that used to be a time consuming hassle are now quick and easy.
Clearly a lot of people enjoy city life, but I often wonder if it's just because they haven't tried small town life?
Yeah, our family made fun of living in the rural parts of Denmark growing up, and now I couldn't dream about moving back.

I only live 30 minutes drive from Aarhus, (number 4 on the list) Denmark is after all pretty small, so I can easily get city vibes if I wanted.

I just went outside, and the only "noise" was birds chirping.
 

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
74,241
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I did much the same thing. Bay Area is over 8 million now, everything had an added layer of hassle and stress. It all seems normal until you go where it isn't crowded and discover how relaxed life can be.
Now almost everything I need is within 2 miles of me. The few things that aren't right here are within 12 miles of me. All of the things that used to be a time consuming hassle are now quick and easy.
Clearly a lot of people enjoy city life, but I often wonder if it's just because they haven't tried small town life?
American small towns are disappearing as the young move away. Capitalism has made rural life skills worthless economically. You live where you do because you don't have to work for a living. Not everybody is so lucky as to have been able to make their money in California and then move away. I would move too if I didn't have family tying me down here. I feel a need to take care of a number of people I could not if I lived far away. When I go to the two largest cities I sometime visit, San Francisco and Sacramento, the poverty and homelessness that I see, the Zombies littering the streets, the brain damage from drugs, etc, it makes me sick. And I'm also an evil worthless person on top of it all because I don't want them moving next door to me. I can run, but my mind just can't hide. To see is to know how fucked we are. How do you learn to live with that? The easy way is not to see the problem of complicity.
 

biostud

Lifer
Feb 27, 2003
19,602
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I lived in a small town for 15 years, it fucking blows.
What I like about our town is that it has a public school, a private school (where I work), a high school with boarding school, an sport "After-school", a business high school and a "højskole' which means that the amount of young people and kids are roughly half the population and the vibe of the city isn't small town backwardness, but more open and cultural. As a young person you should definitely go to the city and get that experience, but as an adult and family I do prefer the more quiet life.
 
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Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
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American small towns are disappearing as the young move away. Capitalism has made rural life skills worthless economically. You live where you do because you don't have to work for a living. Not everybody is so lucky as to have been able to make their money in California and then move away. I would move too if I didn't have family tying me down here. I feel a need to take care of a number of people I could not if I lived far away. When I go to the two largest cities I sometime visit, San Francisco and Sacramento, the poverty and homelessness that I see, the Zombies littering the streets, the brain damage from drugs, etc, it makes me sick. And I'm also an evil worthless person on top of it all because I don't want them moving next door to me. I can run, but my mind just can't hide. To see is to know how fucked we are. How do you learn to live with that? The easy way is not to see the problem of complicity.
Or you just go to the place everyone thinks is a horrible shit hole.
 
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WelshBloke

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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What I like about our town is that it has a public school, a private school (where I work), a high school with boarding school, an sport "After-school", a business high school and a "højskole' which means that the amount of young people and kids are roughly half the population and the vibe of the city isn't small town backwardness, but more open and cultural. As a young person you should definitely go to the city and get that experience, but as an adult and family I do prefer the more quiet life.
I think American small towns are not the same as European small towns.
 

repoman0

Diamond Member
Jun 17, 2010
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My dad’s side of my family are all from the shittiest central NY small towns imaginable. We moved away when I was young and I’m always thankful that we did whenever I go back there to see what fuckups my cousins have all become.

I’m living on a quiet side street in an old neighborhood just north of Boston right now and it’s the best of all worlds. Single family house that’s peaceful with no traffic but everything I need is within a half mile, and I’m walkable to great restaurants and a T stop for a short ride into Boston. I was reflecting the other day that I’ve only driven probably a hundred or two miles all year, besides one optional road trip.

I wouldn’t say no to living in a fancy condo in Boston proper someday but have a first kid on the way and this will be ideal for him.
 

GodisanAtheist

Diamond Member
Nov 16, 2006
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The best place to be in many cases is about 30 minutes - 1 hour outside of a metro area. The older the city the better (since the Metro will be much smaller than some sprawling hellscape like Los Angeles).

I live in that Zone outside San Francisco and its a great balance between quiet and nature or culture and entertainment.

Also, can we just speak to how hard the headline quote goes? That Plato fella was a sharp tack.

This City is what it is because our citizens are what they are. (Plato)
 

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
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Or you just go to the place everyone thinks is a horrible shit hole.
I have no problem with that. I have discovered the truth that everywhere you go there you are. In other words my inner attitude toward life is reflected back to meI everywhere I go. I love Mulla Nasrudin who said, oh my Beloved, everywhere I look, appears to be Thou. What a lucky man.

One thing large cities offer people who hate themselves is the comfort of anonymity.
 
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