HD 5870 low 3Dmarks?

ilogik

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Your system Your previous system Fastest system
3DMark Score
19498 3DMarks 14783 3DMarks 39316 3DMarks

GPU ATI Radeon HD 5870 GeForce 8800 GTS 512 ATI Radeon HD 4890


CPU Intel Core i7-940 Processor Intel Core i7-940 Processor Intel Core i7-975 Processor Extreme Edition

Everything stayed the same, only the card was changed from 8800 to the 5870, doesnt that seem like a very low increase?
 

ilogik

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Meh formatting got skewed hope you can read it, I am only getting 16 FPS in WoW where I would get around 50 with my old 8800..... Whats going on?
 

Udgnim

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DL CCleaner and see if it finds any Nvidia stragglers? don't understand why you're also mentioning a 4890
 

ilogik

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oh sorry that was the fastest system that 39316 3DMarks and the vid card was a 4890
 

tweakboy

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Your getting a taste of ATIhell . The big red machine and beta Catalyst drivers. You should have stuck with the company that you were with. Why change something when not broken. Instead you dived into ATIhell world., with catalyst drivers slow buggy and overall buggy drivers. Ill never go ATI cuz a group of interns are there driver team.
 
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mm2587

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seconded on the driver cleaner. What version of catalyst drivers are you using?

@tweakboy-because nvidia's drivers are so much better? Take your fanaticism elsewhere and let people actually try to help the guy
 

Schmide

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Your getting a taste of ATIhell . The big red machine and beta Catalyst drivers. You should have stuck with the company that you were with. Why change something when not broken. Instead you dived into ATIhell world., with catalyst drivers slow buggy and overall buggy drivers. Ill never go ATI cuz a group of interns are there driver team.

That's lame. Both companies have gotten better at driver issues. Nvidia has had its share of trouble installing over the previous or competitors drivers.

Tweakers never see things in a rational way, it's just their method
 

The Sauce

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Ignore Tweak, known troll.

Ilogic, which3DMark, Vantage? If so those numbers are not off. My 5850 overclocked to 945/1300 gets me about 18000 in Vantage (5870 stock I think is 850/1200, but it has more shader pipes). So your numbers are not bad. I believe that GeForce numbers get artificially inflated in 3DMark because pf PhysX and OpenGL. Your bad FPS in WOW has to be the driver install. I also suggest you get Driver Cleaner or something like that and do a fresh reinstall.
 

mhouck

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+1 for driver clear or even a clean install of the OS if that doesn't doing it.
 

PCboy

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Your getting a taste of ATIhell . The big red machine and beta Catalyst drivers. You should have stuck with the company that you were with. Why change something when not broken. Instead you dived into ATIhell world., with catalyst drivers slow buggy and overall buggy drivers. Ill never go ATI cuz a group of interns are there driver team.

Come on bro, you're from Glendale, CA. Is that really the best you can do? I expected more than that. :\
 

tweakboy

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Honestly though this is normal. Ive heard of this problem for ages.

When you switch from one vendor to another. Only way to fix it usually is a repaiir install of your OS , or a clean format will do it.

But for now you can try safe mode, then use driver cleaner found @ www.guru3d.com then reboot into normal mode and install latest WHQL . gl
 

tweakboy

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Sorry PCboy your right. But ya for 4 straight years same rig, ATI x800 gave me hell, But when it worked it worked great. But different drivers would do different screwy things.

Im sorry it was my frustration. Its ok Ive been on new build for over 2 years now... but ya you have class very nice pcboy ...
 

Schmide

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ATI x800 gave me hell

Honestly, if you're judging ATI drivers by the x800, you must judge the nVidia drivers at the 5000/6000 level which was an abysmal time for them.

Although both companies have improved their drivers tremendously since those early days, my synopsis on driver quirks is the follwing:

ATI is more likely to upgrade over previous versions correctly, nVidia over the years has had most of its trouble here, it seems versioning is not their strong point. NVidia is more likely to support and incorporate features for older hardware, yet they seem to be more likely to break that support in driver updates, yet in the end they will eventually work it out. ATI is more likely to allow minor quirks to remain in older hardware, missing textures etc, as a trade off of stability.
 
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cmdrdredd

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Honestly though this is normal. Ive heard of this problem for ages.

When you switch from one vendor to another. Only way to fix it usually is a repaiir install of your OS , or a clean format will do it.

But for now you can try safe mode, then use driver cleaner found @ www.guru3d.com then reboot into normal mode and install latest WHQL . gl

NO!

As I said in another thread. in MCSE classes they teach you that software problems should almost never require a reinstall. You can always clean the system.
 

jpeake

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NO!

As I said in another thread. in MCSE classes they teach you that software problems should almost never require a reinstall. You can always clean the system.

That might be true, but rather than spend a whole weekend trying to find the needle in the haystack, it's often much easier just to rinse and repeat
 

cmdrdredd

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That might be true, but rather than spend a whole weekend trying to find the needle in the haystack, it's often much easier just to rinse and repeat

Driver cleaner apps, even the free ones do all the work for you.
 
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