HD5870 prices plummet again. Naissss

[-Slacker-]

So I was trying to figure out why prices on the hd 5970 are so high, considering that "historically" they have been cheaper than 2 5870's.

Then I found this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-883-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-476-_-Product

Nice

 

[Arkadrel]

Are you hinting that at 199$ for buying a 5870 your robbing AMD ^-^

I dont think so though, I think its because of the 560 ti, going around 250$.
That ment AMD had to have their 5870s atleast 30-40$ cheaper if it was to compete on price/performance vs the 560.

 

[GaiaHunter]

I dont think so though, I think its because of the 560 ti, going around 250$.
That ment AMD had to have their 5870s atleast 30-40$ cheaper if it was to compete on price/performance vs the 560.

I don't see how that statment can be true when the 5870 has similar performance to the GTX560.

The easy explanation is that the 5870 is a EOL product and these sales allow to reduce the stock of these cards.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Due to the low prices, I picked up a second 5870 for some CrossFire action. Then I found that my mid-tower case wouldn't fit two of them (well, not if I wanted hard drives that is) so I bought a full-tower ATX case. This case needs 120mm fans, so I got some. And my motherboard needed L shaped SATA connectors to not interfer with the cooler of the second 5870. So I bought new cables. So when everything was said and done, my cheap second 5870 ended up costing more than my first one. :/

 

[-Slacker-]

^ Didn't you sell the stuff you replaced?

Are you hinting that at 199$ for buying a 5870 your robbing AMD ^-^

I dont think so though, I think its because of the 560 ti, going around 250$.
That ment AMD had to have their 5870s atleast 30-40$ cheaper if it was to compete on price/performance vs the 560.

I beg to differ. A $200 hd 5870 is a better deal than a $250 gtx 560 ti.

I'm not hinting anything that wouldn't already be obvious.

 

[Arkadrel]

Okay this kinda surprised me... I just assumed the 560 was a faster card guess not.
Went to techpowerup and looked at performance summery:

the 5870 is a faster card, and its selling 50$ cheaper.
I guess that makes it a steal at 199$ ^-^.

 

[Castiel]

The two 5870s linked by the op do not have voltage control making them worthless if you plan on over clocking

 

[-Slacker-]

Nah, the 560 is generally the faster card, but just negligibly. TPU reviews almost always show amd stuff in a better light than other sites.

The two 5870s linked by the op do not have voltage control making them worthless if you plan on over clocking

So you've said before. I haven't seen anybody else complain about this, and even though I'm not sure what impact the lack of voltage control would have on a card's performance, I'd still have to wonder how important it is to have it.

 

[busydude]

I guess that makes it a steal at 199$ ^-^.

Just look as how cluttered it became..

GTX 470, 6870, 5870, 6950.. all perform within a few % of each other. The choices are overwhelming sometimes.

 

[Vdubchaos]

5850 at $150 and 5870 at $199 have been the best bang for the buck past few months (when it's on sale of course).

Sales come up once a month or so....

 

[Grooveriding]

At this price unless you are in the market for a gtx 580 or 6970, this is the card to buy.

 

[Termie]

Nah, the 560 is generally the faster card, but just negligibly. TPU reviews almost always show amd stuff in a better light than other sites.



So you've said before. I haven't seen anybody else complain about this, and even though I'm not sure what impact the lack of voltage control would have on a card's performance, I'd still have to wonder how important it is to have it.

You're generally wrong on GTX560 vs. HD5870: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4137/...-6950-1gb-xfxs-radeon-hd-6870-black-edition/5

But you're generally right about HD5870 over-volting - you can get 925 or 950 out of stock volts. I don't really buy Castiel's 1100 core clock on his HD5870s, but if that's for real, I'd be curious which other Sapphire HD5870 he bought in the past two weeks (since he had 6870s up until last week). You can't get reference 1GB models anymore.

 

[Castiel]

But you're generally right about HD5870 over-volting - you can get 925 or 950 out of stock volts. I don't really buy Castiel's 1100 core clock on his HD5870s, but if that's for real, I'd be curious which other Sapphire HD5870 he bought in the past two weeks (since he had 6870s up until last week). You can't get reference 1GB models anymore.

I didn't buy them. I traded for them and there's nothing new about them. 1.1Ghz is for benching only at 1.4v and the fan screaming at 100%.

These

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=5256799

 

[Termie]

I didn't buy them. I traded for them and there's nothing new about them. 1.1Ghz is for benching only at 1.4v and the fan screaming at 100%.

These

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=5256799

Fair enough - didn't know you traded for them, or that you could actually still buy them new. It would be interesting to know what core clock they can hold in gaming. Around 1000 maybe?

 

[stag3]

wow so if is it worth upgrading from a 5850 for this? or save my money?
i was thinking i can toss my 5850 into my 2nd rig, and get a 5870 for my main rig now
unless there's something better that isn't $400+ ? ~200 sounds good

 

[Castiel]

Fair enough - didn't know you traded for them, or that you could actually still buy them new. It would be interesting to know what core clock they can hold in gaming. Around 1000 maybe?

Bc2 will crash with anything more then 1030 core

 

[-Slacker-]

^^I wouldn't consider moving from a 5850 to a 5870 much of an upgrade, unless you're gaming at 1920x1200 or higher.

 

[Castiel]

5850 to 5870 is a waste of money. Just add another 5850

 

[Termie]

wow so if is it worth upgrading from a 5850 for this? or save my money?
i was thinking i can toss my 5850 into my 2nd rig, and get a 5870 for my main rig now
unless there's something better that isn't $400+ ? ~200 sounds good

I assume you know that a stock HD5870 is only 5% faster than your OC'd HD5850. You can't get enough overclock out of an HD5870 to get back its 18% advantage at stock clocks. An OC'd HD5870 (assuming stock voltage) would only be 10-15% faster than your card.

 

[stag3]

i game at 1920x1200 so yea i'll probably save myself the 200

 

[Elfear]

^^I wouldn't consider moving from a 5850 to a 5870 much of an upgrade, unless you're gaming at 1920x1200 or higher.

If you're running both cards at stock the 5870 is only 10-15% faster. Not much of an upgrade. If you're going to overclock, the extra shaders on the 5870 are only worth 5% more performance and the cards are basically equal at max clocks.

 

[Termie]

Bc2 will crash with anything more then 1030 core

Not bad - that's a pretty awesome core clock. Beats a stock GTX570, I'm sure.

 

[ebolamonkey3]

I don't see how that statment can be true when the 5870 has similar performance to the GTX560.

The easy explanation is that the 5870 is a EOL product and these sales allow to reduce the stock of these cards.

This.

Newegg carries stock on these cards and even if they sell for less than what they paid for these, it's better to get as much cash for them now instead of just letting them sit in your warehouse and rack up inventory costs and taking up a part of your budget.

At similar price levels, the choice b/t a GTX 560 and a Radeon 5870 is an easy one, and Newegg knows it won't sell too many more 5870s except to buyers who have a strong AMD preference or to people who already own one or more 5870s, and that's a much smaller subset of the GPU market compared the amount of people looking to buy a new card.

 

[Absolution75]

When I heard plummet I was excited thinking you meant $150-180

They've been this price for awhile now =/

 

[Castiel]

Not bad - that's a pretty awesome core clock. Beats a stock GTX570, I'm sure.

They're very sweet cards but i'm eventually going to throw them on the classifieds and pickup a 580. I've always wanted a 580. I just can't make myself pull the trigger on one.