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BigJ

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: jdini76
Originally posted by: gourmettea
Seriously. It wouldn't matter. Peter would destroy Sylar. Future Peter seems to have full control of his powers, especially the time manipulation.

Peter could freeze time and kill Sylar.

Syler had claire's power. He would never be truly dead.

I honestly doubt that. Obviously something inhibits the regeneration function when there is penetration of the brain. You could probably grind him or Claire into sausage meat in their impaired state and they'd stay dead.
 

gourmettea

Senior member
Aug 11, 2003
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Originally posted by: jdini76
Originally posted by: gourmettea
Seriously. It wouldn't matter. Peter would destroy Sylar. Future Peter seems to have full control of his powers, especially the time manipulation.

Peter could freeze time and kill Sylar.

Syler had claire's power. He would never be truly dead.

Maybe. But so does Peter. Freeze time chop Sylar up and split his body to the four corners of the world.

And come on Hiro! Go back in time and kill the radioactive man. No nuclear man = no boom.




 

Dacalo

Diamond Member
Mar 31, 2000
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The show is entertaining, but dumb as hell. Peter and Hiro can just freeze time, cut Sylar's head off, and be done with it.
 

BigJ

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
21,330
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Originally posted by: Dacalo
The show is entertaining, but dumb as hell. Peter and Hiro can just freeze time, cut Sylar's head off, and be done with it.

This is assuming that Sylar hasn't acquired a power similar to the Haitians that would allow him to be immune to the effects of the time shift. The Haitian had the power, so who knows what else is out there, along with what Sylar has.

Hasn't he been collecting powers for awhile now?
 

Bacstar

Golden Member
Nov 2, 2006
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Originally posted by: TheChort
I still have a problem with the cheerleader thing in the future...

1) Sylar doesn't have healing powers. We know this because at the end of the episode he finds claire and kills her, saying something along the lines of "I have been looking for you for a long time." So he has healing powers only AFTER that. If he had gotten it from some other means, why would he STILL be looking for Claire.

2) In the SAME timeline Future Hiro remembers stabbing Sylar but not killing him because he had healing powers.

-- Now can both of those points be true?

Time travel is a very touchy subject...

I'm surmising that Hiro has travelled back in time on multiple trips to fix certain aspects of the time line. His probable first mission back was attempting to kill Sylar but he healed himself, so his next mission was to save the cheerleader. Each time he goes back something different happens and as he studies the time line he has hanging in that room, he goes back to try something different.

Time travel...ick... I feel for the writers who try to tackle this subject.

 
Mar 15, 2003
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After seeing the last episode (Tivo), all I can think is "Brokeback Hiro." Not that that's a bad think - those two Japs make a cute couple! Travel in time when future Hiro is alive and you've got yourself a three-some!
 

hdeck

Lifer
Sep 26, 2002
14,530
1
0
Originally posted by: TheChort
Originally posted by: alkemyst
What is Molly Walker's power? We still haven't seen the juggarnaut in one of Issac's paintings yet...could that be her's?
X-men style?

i think he is referring to the urulu (giant rock creature that made a few quick appearances in isaac's earlier work & on the nbc site).

Originally posted by: Dacalo
The show is entertaining, but dumb as hell. Peter and Hiro can just freeze time, cut Sylar's head off, and be done with it.

hiro has never been around sylar to freeze time and kill him. peter still hasn't learned how to use/control all the powers he has absorbed from other people. it's not really that much of a stretch.

Originally posted by: NFS4
You mofos are thinking WAY to much into this. Just watch the show and enjoy the action. That's what I do. All of this over analyzing just takes away from the fun.

heh, you haven't seen anything. the posts in this thread are child's play compared to some of craziness that gets posted on the 9th wonders forums.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
After seeing the last episode (Tivo), all I can think is "Brokeback Hiro." Not that that's a bad think - those two Japs make a cute couple! Travel in time when future Hiro is alive and you've got yourself a three-some!

I thought the same thing about those two, but you had to go ahead and take it one step beyond...
 

jdini76

Platinum Member
Mar 16, 2001
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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: jdini76
Originally posted by: gourmettea
Seriously. It wouldn't matter. Peter would destroy Sylar. Future Peter seems to have full control of his powers, especially the time manipulation.

Peter could freeze time and kill Sylar.

Syler had claire's power. He would never be truly dead.

I honestly doubt that. Obviously something inhibits the regeneration function when there is penetration of the brain. You could probably grind him or Claire into sausage meat in their impaired state and they'd stay dead.


Your statement brings up another question which may never get answered. When Syler got to Claire in the Oval office, did he actually kill her after he looks are her brain? could he?
 

DJFuji

Diamond Member
Oct 18, 1999
3,643
1
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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
After seeing the last episode (Tivo), all I can think is "Brokeback Hiro." Not that that's a bad think - those two Japs make a cute couple! Travel in time when future Hiro is alive and you've got yourself a three-some!

watch the racial slurs.
 

NFS4

No Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
72,636
47
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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
After seeing the last episode (Tivo), all I can think is "Brokeback Hiro." Not that that's a bad think - those two Japs make a cute couple! Travel in time when future Hiro is alive and you've got yourself a three-some!

I thought the same thing about those two, but you had to go ahead and take it one step beyond...

Yeah, there's got to be a youtube of those two around somewhere with "Secret Lovers" playing in the background. There are just TOO many moments of them gazing into each others eyes or hugging:laugh:
 

DJFuji

Diamond Member
Oct 18, 1999
3,643
1
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Who was the dead woman who was shot in the head at the office when parkman and the benette dude were there?
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
83,769
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Originally posted by: DJFuji
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
After seeing the last episode (Tivo), all I can think is "Brokeback Hiro." Not that that's a bad think - those two Japs make a cute couple! Travel in time when future Hiro is alive and you've got yourself a three-some!

watch the racial slurs.

Jap is depreciated in 'Sensitivity for the 21st Century'.

It was hardly a slur IMHO to begin with, I have no problem being called a Yank...even though I am southern.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: Minjin
Nah, I think its just poor writing. This isn't Lost. Everything here is on the surface. You're not supposed to think that much about it.

Not really, the scar Hiro was referring to on the train we all thought was the head scar from Sylar...someone it looks like someone cleaved Peters face now. Looks oddly like a sword cut.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: FreshPrince
what if sylar made peter look like sylar and hiro stabbed peter?

That's my take. Obviously Peter isn't going to just come out and say 'Hey look Hiro, no foul. I lived after all and killed 1,000,000+ people anyway'.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: TheChort
Originally posted by: everman
I guess they wanted to save money on special effects and not do much with what could have been two incredibly awesome scenes (lobby scene, and Sylar v. Peter). Great show though.

When the lobby scene started I started to feel like a kid on Christmas morning that is about to open his presents.
But then they skipped right to the end of the fight scene and i realized that it was only labor day

Something tells me the DVD release will have it.
 

Fingolfin269

Lifer
Feb 28, 2003
17,948
31
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Originally posted by: DJFuji
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
After seeing the last episode (Tivo), all I can think is "Brokeback Hiro." Not that that's a bad think - those two Japs make a cute couple! Travel in time when future Hiro is alive and you've got yourself a three-some!

watch the racial slurs.

Give me a break....
 

xSkyDrAx

Diamond Member
Sep 14, 2003
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Originally posted by: DJFuji
Who was the dead woman who was shot in the head at the office when parkman and the benette dude were there?

I believe that could the woman with the ability to transmit her thoughts through computers. The 'wire-less' woman that contacted Ted (radioactive guy) when he was in the barn.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: jdoggg12
Here's my thoughts on this future:

Sylar never got clair - so, up to this point, he never had healing powers. He did however kill Micah, DL, Nathan, Shapeshifter, and someone with ice powers. The end fight was just like pyro vs iceman... pretty cool, but with healing, sylar would win.

I wonder how nikki/jessica thing turned out like it did...

Why don't they just send the haitian to take out sylar? If he works on peter, why wouldn't he work on sylar past OR future!

No one (including syslar) knows that clair's still alive aside from the core cast.

Sylars plan as president was 2fold, not only by rounding up the people with powers will he get rid of competition, but it'll also allow him to have easy access to all the extra powers he wants - buffet style.

sylar didn't get micah and dl, peter said he was the cause of their death, they died in the explosion.

peter vs sylar is interesting as peter can absorb all of the powers sylar has, so would seem that peter would have the advantage in the end.

Peter can stop time and Sylar cannot unless I missed something. That's my one main gripe with this show. The guys who can stop/manipulate time must be stupid because they don't realize what it really means. Who cares if Sylar might win if they went straight up when Peter could just freeze frame and do whatever he wants to the guy? I know it wouldn't be as interesting of a show but it's almost an insult to our intelligence to have that awesome power in play and think we will be blinded enough to not consider the fact that Peter is pretty much unstoppable unless he get something lodged in his brain.

Hiro is focused on the skill and is having problems using it. For Peter it's just one of his tools.
 

alrocky

Golden Member
Jan 22, 2001
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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
After seeing the last episode (Tivo), all I can think is "Brokeback Hiro." Not that that's a bad think - those two Japanese make a cute couple! Travel in time when future Hiro is alive and you've got yourself a three-some!

I thought the same thing about those two, but you had to go ahead and take it one step beyond...
So, would this mean that Hiro inherited the gay gene from his dad as portrayed by George Takei?

---

I forgot about the other Cheerleader Sylar killed by mistake, but Sylar would know that she didn't have any powers. I wonder how Claire got away from the "future" Sylar?
Well he probably didn't want to hang around and kill every cheerleader at Homecoming.

I think Claire didn't get away from "future" Sylar in last night episode.
 
Mar 15, 2003
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Originally posted by: DJFuji
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
After seeing the last episode (Tivo), all I can think is "Brokeback Hiro." Not that that's a bad think - those two Japs make a cute couple! Travel in time when future Hiro is alive and you've got yourself a three-some!

watch the racial slurs.

Oh, come on - I obviously meant it in a tongue and cheek manner. Hiro's my favorite character in the show and my cat is named after a Miyazaki heroine (Kiki). I aint racist, I love Japs and I love chinks too!
P.S. The chinks thing was a Conan/Sarah Silverman reference from a TV-PG rated episode.
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
Originally posted by: Falloutboy
Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
So at first it seemed like this was an alternate timeline (One where the bomb went off and Claire was dead), because Future Hiro said he stabbed Sylar but he healed himself. So that's why he went back to tell Peter to save her. But it turns out this was a "Current" timeline, (Because claire was still alive, so that means this timeline was taking place after Peter saved her) , so if that's true, how did sylar heal himself when future hiro stabbed him?

Peter was always the bomb, so saving claire didn't do a whole lot to change the timeline like hiro wanted.

But Hiro said he stabbed Sylar and he just healed himself. But how could he if in that current timeline, Claire was alive?
Maybe Linderman healed Sylar for some reason? Linderman seems to have the ability to heal living things other than himself.

 

Fingolfin269

Lifer
Feb 28, 2003
17,948
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: jdoggg12
Here's my thoughts on this future:

Sylar never got clair - so, up to this point, he never had healing powers. He did however kill Micah, DL, Nathan, Shapeshifter, and someone with ice powers. The end fight was just like pyro vs iceman... pretty cool, but with healing, sylar would win.

I wonder how nikki/jessica thing turned out like it did...

Why don't they just send the haitian to take out sylar? If he works on peter, why wouldn't he work on sylar past OR future!

No one (including syslar) knows that clair's still alive aside from the core cast.

Sylars plan as president was 2fold, not only by rounding up the people with powers will he get rid of competition, but it'll also allow him to have easy access to all the extra powers he wants - buffet style.

sylar didn't get micah and dl, peter said he was the cause of their death, they died in the explosion.

peter vs sylar is interesting as peter can absorb all of the powers sylar has, so would seem that peter would have the advantage in the end.

Peter can stop time and Sylar cannot unless I missed something. That's my one main gripe with this show. The guys who can stop/manipulate time must be stupid because they don't realize what it really means. Who cares if Sylar might win if they went straight up when Peter could just freeze frame and do whatever he wants to the guy? I know it wouldn't be as interesting of a show but it's almost an insult to our intelligence to have that awesome power in play and think we will be blinded enough to not consider the fact that Peter is pretty much unstoppable unless he get something lodged in his brain.

Hiro is focused on the skill and is having problems using it. For Peter it's just one of his tools.

Right. I'm just saying that when it comes down to it, in a fight between Peter and Sylar, they are pretty much equal except for one MAJOR thing. Sylar cannot win over someone who can just stop time and have their way with him. I'm sure a writer can find some way around this but given what we know Peter should win every time under the current circumstances.

 

ultimatebob

Lifer
Jul 1, 2001
25,134
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Wow, good episode! It looks like this season is getting better as it goes along, which is more than I can say for 24
 
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