HEROES

[jdoggg12]

Here's my thoughts on this future:

Sylar never got clair - so, up to this point, he never had healing powers. He did however kill Micah, DL, Nathan, Shapeshifter, and someone with ice powers. The end fight was just like pyro vs iceman... pretty cool, but with healing, sylar would win.

I wonder how nikki/jessica thing turned out like it did...

Why don't they just send the haitian to take out sylar? If he works on peter, why wouldn't he work on sylar past OR future!

No one (including syslar) knows that clair's still alive aside from the core cast.

Sylars plan as president was 2fold, not only by rounding up the people with powers will he get rid of competition, but it'll also allow him to have easy access to all the extra powers he wants - buffet style.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: jdoggg12
Here's my thoughts on this future:

Sylar never got clair - so, up to this point, he never had healing powers. He did however kill Micah, DL, Nathan, Shapeshifter, and someone with ice powers. The end fight was just like pyro vs iceman... pretty cool, but with healing, sylar would win.

I wonder how nikki/jessica thing turned out like it did...

Why don't they just send the haitian to take out sylar? If he works on peter, why wouldn't he work on sylar past OR future!

No one (including syslar) knows that clair's still alive aside from the core cast.

Sylars plan as president was 2fold, not only by rounding up the people with powers will he get rid of competition, but it'll also allow him to have easy access to all the extra powers he wants - buffet style.

sylar didn't get micah and dl, peter said he was the cause of their death, they died in the explosion.

peter vs sylar is interesting as peter can absorb all of the powers sylar has, so would seem that peter would have the advantage in the end.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: jdoggg12
Here's my thoughts on this future:

Sylar never got clair - so, up to this point, he never had healing powers. He did however kill Micah, DL, Nathan, Shapeshifter, and someone with ice powers. The end fight was just like pyro vs iceman... pretty cool, but with healing, sylar would win.

I wonder how nikki/jessica thing turned out like it did...

Why don't they just send the haitian to take out sylar? If he works on peter, why wouldn't he work on sylar past OR future!

No one (including syslar) knows that clair's still alive aside from the core cast.

Sylars plan as president was 2fold, not only by rounding up the people with powers will he get rid of competition, but it'll also allow him to have easy access to all the extra powers he wants - buffet style.

sylar didn't get micah and dl, peter said he was the cause of their death, they died in the explosion.

peter vs sylar is interesting as peter can absorb all of the powers sylar has, so would seem that peter would have the advantage in the end.

Peter can stop time and Sylar cannot unless I missed something. That's my one main gripe with this show. The guys who can stop/manipulate time must be stupid because they don't realize what it really means. Who cares if Sylar might win if they went straight up when Peter could just freeze frame and do whatever he wants to the guy? I know it wouldn't be as interesting of a show but it's almost an insult to our intelligence to have that awesome power in play and think we will be blinded enough to not consider the fact that Peter is pretty much unstoppable unless he get something lodged in his brain.

 

[jdoggg12]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: jdoggg12
Here's my thoughts on this future:

Sylar never got clair - so, up to this point, he never had healing powers. He did however kill Micah, DL, Nathan, Shapeshifter, and someone with ice powers. The end fight was just like pyro vs iceman... pretty cool, but with healing, sylar would win.

I wonder how nikki/jessica thing turned out like it did...

Why don't they just send the haitian to take out sylar? If he works on peter, why wouldn't he work on sylar past OR future!

No one (including syslar) knows that clair's still alive aside from the core cast.

Sylars plan as president was 2fold, not only by rounding up the people with powers will he get rid of competition, but it'll also allow him to have easy access to all the extra powers he wants - buffet style.

sylar didn't get micah and dl, peter said he was the cause of their death, they died in the explosion.

peter vs sylar is interesting as peter can absorb all of the powers sylar has, so would seem that peter would have the advantage in the end.

Then explain how sylar got DLs power.....


...he only gains the power by removing the intact brain - if they died in the (nuclear) explosion, it wasn't intact

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: jdoggg12

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: jdoggg12
Here's my thoughts on this future:

Sylar never got clair - so, up to this point, he never had healing powers. He did however kill Micah, DL, Nathan, Shapeshifter, and someone with ice powers. The end fight was just like pyro vs iceman... pretty cool, but with healing, sylar would win.

I wonder how nikki/jessica thing turned out like it did...

Why don't they just send the haitian to take out sylar? If he works on peter, why wouldn't he work on sylar past OR future!

No one (including syslar) knows that clair's still alive aside from the core cast.

Sylars plan as president was 2fold, not only by rounding up the people with powers will he get rid of competition, but it'll also allow him to have easy access to all the extra powers he wants - buffet style.

sylar didn't get micah and dl, peter said he was the cause of their death, they died in the explosion.

peter vs sylar is interesting as peter can absorb all of the powers sylar has, so would seem that peter would have the advantage in the end.

Then explain how sylar got DLs power.....

i can't, mb i misheard but i'm pretty sure peter said he was the cause of micah's and DL's death when he caused the explosion.

toward the end of the episode, Peter is talking to Nikki / Jessica, DL is gone, Micah is gone . . .

It was me, the Bomb it was me, I killed Micah. . .

ok, so peter didn't kill DL only Micah.

 

[PimpJuice]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: NFS4
I take it that everyone here will be buying the SUPERULTRADELUXETOPOFTHELINE DVD/HD-DVD of the first season

Even though I've been recording and editing out commercials all of the Heroes eps in HD, some of the broadcasts were screwed up (NBC station here must be run by rtards or something), I might just have to.

However if they successfully reair the episodes they screwed up...although I'm not counting on it considering the whole 'watch episodes online' craze all the networks are embracing, repeats are becoming pretty rare in favor of them trying to push new crap down our throats.

yeah who wants new crap, lets just watch re-runs over and over. You're a moron.....you just want them to re-run the eps so you can re-copy the screwed up ones you copied before.

 

[alrocky]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: jdoggg12
Here's my thoughts on this future:

Sylar never got clair - so, up to this point, he never had healing powers. He did however kill Micah, DL, Nathan, Shapeshifter, and someone with ice powers. The end fight was just like pyro vs iceman... pretty cool, but with healing, sylar would win.

I wonder how nikki/jessica thing turned out like it did...

Why don't they just send the haitian to take out sylar? If he works on peter, why wouldn't he work on sylar past OR future!

No one (including syslar) knows that clair's still alive aside from the core cast.

Sylars plan as president was 2fold, not only by rounding up the people with powers will he get rid of competition, but it'll also allow him to have easy access to all the extra powers he wants - buffet style.

sylar didn't get micah and dl, peter said he was the cause of their death, they died in the explosion.

peter vs sylar is interesting as peter can absorb all of the powers sylar has, so would seem that peter would have the advantage in the end.

Sylar pulled Peter thru the door at the start of the big fight off. So he musta aquired DL's power. Perhaps Sylar was pretending to be DL right before the big bomb. Presumably Peter was outed before the big explosion and it was blamed on Sylar who they thought (?) also died in the blast. Couldn't have the President's brother responsible for all those deaths.

---

Sure it's a good idea for the Haitian to take out Sylar. Trouble is finding him.

 

[brandonbull]

Originally posted by: alrocky
You make a valid point we didn't actually see Peter use his healing power, but then wouldn't Claire be dead? Also as I understood it, last nights show was the future of the current situation after peter saved Claire.

Maybe he can only keep control of a certain amount of powers and needs to choose to release one if he becomes to overwhelmed. Or maybe it isn't even his choice.

Nice catch, brandonbull. Sylar killed a cheerleader, just not Claire. Hiro musta thought Sylar had her healing ability and HRG in an attempt to keep Claire safe didn't tell him the truth.

So I'm suggesting that in the "future's timeline" Sylar killed a cheerleader and (that may have prompted or) at some point HRG hid Claire. In "future Hiro's" research he heard about a healing cheerleader and mistakenly thought he needed to prevent Claire's death, thus sending Peter the message on the subway. (The major event of a cheerleader dying didn't change but "present timeline" Peter was able to gain Claire's healing power.) However this only works if "future" Peter somehow has an encounter with Claire or Hiro mistakenly thought Peter's (as Sylar) survival from the sword wound as a HERO "healing" power. The former is the better scenario.
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Good point. I forgot about the other Cheerleader Sylar killed by mistake, but Sylar would know that she didn't have any powers. I wonder how Claire got away from the "future" Sylar? I guess the "future" Hiro thought Peter was Sylar and tried to kill him but Peter healed and Hiro left thinking Peter was Sylar until it was too late.

Can Sylar use only 1 power at a time like Peter or does he get to use them all at once?

 

[brandonbull]

Why can't Peter absorb the Haitian's power?

 

[xalos]

Originally posted by: brandonbull
Why can't Peter absorb the Haitian's power?

Haitian probably cancels out Peters powers.

Hiro or Peter just need to go back in time and kill or stop Suresh's fathers work. Then, Sylar doesnt go on his rampage and the Heroes dont meet in New York. That keeps Peter from blowing stuff up assuming he's there to stop the explosion or to stop Sylar from killing his brother.

 

[jdoggg12]

Originally posted by: brandonbull
Why can't Peter absorb the Haitian's power?

B/c the haitians area of effect is larger than peters. Thus, peters ability to absorb powers is neutralized.

Thats just speculation though.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: jdoggg12
Here's my thoughts on this future:

Sylar never got clair - so, up to this point, he never had healing powers. He did however kill Micah, DL, Nathan, Shapeshifter, and someone with ice powers. The end fight was just like pyro vs iceman... pretty cool, but with healing, sylar would win.

I wonder how nikki/jessica thing turned out like it did...

Why don't they just send the haitian to take out sylar? If he works on peter, why wouldn't he work on sylar past OR future!

No one (including syslar) knows that clair's still alive aside from the core cast.

Sylars plan as president was 2fold, not only by rounding up the people with powers will he get rid of competition, but it'll also allow him to have easy access to all the extra powers he wants - buffet style.

sylar didn't get micah and dl, peter said he was the cause of their death, they died in the explosion.

peter vs sylar is interesting as peter can absorb all of the powers sylar has, so would seem that peter would have the advantage in the end.

He said he killed micah...not dl. The three people Hiro requested from Bennett: DL, Candance and someone else were already caught by Sylar.

 

[hdeck]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: jdoggg12
Here's my thoughts on this future:

Sylar never got clair - so, up to this point, he never had healing powers. He did however kill Micah, DL, Nathan, Shapeshifter, and someone with ice powers. The end fight was just like pyro vs iceman... pretty cool, but with healing, sylar would win.

I wonder how nikki/jessica thing turned out like it did...

Why don't they just send the haitian to take out sylar? If he works on peter, why wouldn't he work on sylar past OR future!

No one (including syslar) knows that clair's still alive aside from the core cast.

Sylars plan as president was 2fold, not only by rounding up the people with powers will he get rid of competition, but it'll also allow him to have easy access to all the extra powers he wants - buffet style.

sylar didn't get micah and dl, peter said he was the cause of their death, they died in the explosion.

peter vs sylar is interesting as peter can absorb all of the powers sylar has, so would seem that peter would have the advantage in the end.

He said he killed micah...not dl. The three people Hiro requested from Bennett: DL, Candance and someone else were already caught by Sylar.

dl died in the explosion. he told nikki this towards the end of the episode.

the girl that can stop sylar (molly walker i believe) was in one of the first episodes. she was able to hide while he killed the rest of her family.

 

[jdoggg12]

^ Then, again, if DL died... why does sylar have his powers? Not everything the heroes think is true, really is. They all thought Nathan was the president, didnt they?

 

[TheChort]

I still have a problem with the cheerleader thing in the future...

1) Sylar doesn't have healing powers. We know this because at the end of the episode he finds claire and kills her, saying something along the lines of "I have been looking for you for a long time." So he has healing powers only AFTER that. If he had gotten it from some other means, why would he STILL be looking for Claire.

2) In the SAME timeline Future Hiro remembers stabbing Sylar but not killing him because he had healing powers.

-- Now can both of those points be true?

 

[everman]

Anyone else think that "save the world" does not refer to the bomb in N.Y.? What if it refers to the battle between Peter and Sylar at the end of this episode? They're both equally matched, almost invincible now and able to create and survive atomic bomb blasts generated by themselves. What if this battle actually destroys the world? If Sylar never got to Claire then he wouldn't have a chance.

 

[jdoggg12]

Maybe linderman healed him for some reason??

 

[drnickriviera]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: jdoggg12
Here's my thoughts on this future:

Sylar never got clair - so, up to this point, he never had healing powers. He did however kill Micah, DL, Nathan, Shapeshifter, and someone with ice powers. The end fight was just like pyro vs iceman... pretty cool, but with healing, sylar would win.

I wonder how nikki/jessica thing turned out like it did...

Why don't they just send the haitian to take out sylar? If he works on peter, why wouldn't he work on sylar past OR future!

No one (including syslar) knows that clair's still alive aside from the core cast.

Sylars plan as president was 2fold, not only by rounding up the people with powers will he get rid of competition, but it'll also allow him to have easy access to all the extra powers he wants - buffet style.

sylar didn't get micah and dl, peter said he was the cause of their death, they died in the explosion.

peter vs sylar is interesting as peter can absorb all of the powers sylar has, so would seem that peter would have the advantage in the end.

Peter can stop time and Sylar cannot unless I missed something. That's my one main gripe with this show. The guys who can stop/manipulate time must be stupid because they don't realize what it really means. Who cares if Sylar might win if they went straight up when Peter could just freeze frame and do whatever he wants to the guy? I know it wouldn't be as interesting of a show but it's almost an insult to our intelligence to have that awesome power in play and think we will be blinded enough to not consider the fact that Peter is pretty much unstoppable unless he get something lodged in his brain.

Yup, go invisible, do the genie blink to stop time, pick up Sylar and toss him into a meat grinding machine, go nuclear and irradiate the mush that comes out. Let's see him regenerate from that.

 

[TheChort]

Originally posted by: jdoggg12
Maybe linderman healed him for some reason??

it's possible
We already know linderman wanted the bomb to happen. Maybe he thought the bomb was supposed to be Sylar, so he saved him.

but now I'm just overanalyzing a ****** TV show, when I'm sure I have better things to do

 

[alkemyst]

What is Molly Walker's power? We still haven't seen the juggarnaut in one of Issac's paintings yet...could that be her's?

 

[TheChort]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
What is Molly Walker's power? We still haven't seen the juggarnaut in one of Issac's paintings yet...could that be her's?

X-men style?

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: hdeck

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: jdoggg12
Here's my thoughts on this future:

Sylar never got clair - so, up to this point, he never had healing powers. He did however kill Micah, DL, Nathan, Shapeshifter, and someone with ice powers. The end fight was just like pyro vs iceman... pretty cool, but with healing, sylar would win.

I wonder how nikki/jessica thing turned out like it did...

Why don't they just send the haitian to take out sylar? If he works on peter, why wouldn't he work on sylar past OR future!

No one (including syslar) knows that clair's still alive aside from the core cast.

Sylars plan as president was 2fold, not only by rounding up the people with powers will he get rid of competition, but it'll also allow him to have easy access to all the extra powers he wants - buffet style.

sylar didn't get micah and dl, peter said he was the cause of their death, they died in the explosion.

peter vs sylar is interesting as peter can absorb all of the powers sylar has, so would seem that peter would have the advantage in the end.

He said he killed micah...not dl. The three people Hiro requested from Bennett: DL, Candance and someone else were already caught by Sylar.

dl died in the explosion. he told nikki this towards the end of the episode.

the girl that can stop sylar (molly walker i believe) was in one of the first episodes. she was able to hide while he killed the rest of her family.

actually, i originally thought that too, but i rewatched the episode and Peter used DL as an example of one who had died but not necessarily someone that died in the blast. he specifically says later on that he killed micah in the blast but he doesn't mention DL.

 

[NFS4]

You mofos are thinking WAY to much into this. Just watch the show and enjoy the action. That's what I do. All of this over analyzing just takes away from the fun.

 

[gourmettea]

Seriously. It wouldn't matter. Peter would destroy Sylar. Future Peter seems to have full control of his powers, especially the time manipulation.

Peter could freeze time and kill Sylar.

 

[jdini76]

Originally posted by: gourmettea
Seriously. It wouldn't matter. Peter would destroy Sylar. Future Peter seems to have full control of his powers, especially the time manipulation.

Peter could freeze time and kill Sylar.

Syler had claire's power. He would never be truly dead.