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bigrash

Lifer
Feb 20, 2001
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just got to watch this episode and it was an awesome one. best show on tv in a long while. the writing is just superb
 

Kev

Lifer
Dec 17, 2001
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I just saw it last night. That single episode was better than most of the movies I've ever seen. Holy crap.
 

bunnyfubbles

Lifer
Sep 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: Kev
I just saw it last night. That single episode was better than most of the movies I've ever seen. Holy crap.

I don't know if I'd go that far, but considering movies are pretty much forced to consolidate the story into ~2 hours as opposed to a ~20+ hour season...

Yet one of the things that makes Heroes amazing is that every episode is advancing the plot along, very little filler - something other shows can have entire episodes that are just complete filler to drag the season and the series out, milking the viewers for all their worth.

I think Heroes is really giving us a decent glimpse of what we could have if movies had more time to tell their story...now if only Heroes had the budget movies enjoy...
 

DJFuji

Diamond Member
Oct 18, 1999
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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: DJFuji
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
After seeing the last episode (Tivo), all I can think is "Brokeback Hiro." Not that that's a bad think - those two Japs make a cute couple! Travel in time when future Hiro is alive and you've got yourself a three-some!

watch the racial slurs.

Oh, come on - I obviously meant it in a tongue and cheek manner. Hiro's my favorite character in the show and my cat is named after a Miyazaki heroine (Kiki). I aint racist, I love Japs and I love chinks too!
P.S. The chinks thing was a Conan/Sarah Silverman reference from a TV-PG rated episode.

I know it was tongue in cheek. But i'm sick and tired of racial slurs being non-PC for every ****** ethnicity but asians. Go call a black man the n-word (see? its not even PC to say it in reference) and then tell him 'oh gimme a break it was tongue in cheek'. After he beats your ass, society will say 'he was justified, you were oppressing him.'

Asians are so non-militant that people feel they can walk all over us. Remember the "two wongs make it white" shirts put out by abercrombie? Granted that was a funny shirt and i would have bought it myself if i could find one...but the point is that the only reason that even hit the store shelves was because people think they can walk all over asians. That never would have happened to blacks or latinos because they stand up for themselves and because there would have been a ****** uproar. I'm tired of the attitude of "oh dont mind the silly yellow slant eyes, they wont mind us laughing at them."

Case in point: If i say the n-word, i'll get a vacation instantly. But the mods probably wont even take a second glance at the jap thing.
 

xSkyDrAx

Diamond Member
Sep 14, 2003
7,706
1
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Originally posted by: DJFuji
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: DJFuji
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
After seeing the last episode (Tivo), all I can think is "Brokeback Hiro." Not that that's a bad think - those two Japs make a cute couple! Travel in time when future Hiro is alive and you've got yourself a three-some!

watch the racial slurs.

Oh, come on - I obviously meant it in a tongue and cheek manner. Hiro's my favorite character in the show and my cat is named after a Miyazaki heroine (Kiki). I aint racist, I love Japs and I love chinks too!
P.S. The chinks thing was a Conan/Sarah Silverman reference from a TV-PG rated episode.

I know it was tongue in cheek. But i'm sick and tired of racial slurs being non-PC for every ****** ethnicity but asians. Go call a black man the n-word (see? its not even PC to say it in reference) and then tell him 'oh gimme a break it was tongue in cheek'. After he beats your ass, society will say 'he was justified, you were oppressing him.'

Asians are so non-militant that people feel they can walk all over us. Remember the "two wongs make it white" shirts put out by abercrombie? Granted that was a funny shirt and i would have bought it myself if i could find one...but the point is that the only reason that even hit the store shelves was because people think they can walk all over asians. That never would have happened to blacks or latinos because they stand up for themselves and because there would have been a ****** uproar. I'm tired of the attitude of "oh dont mind the silly yellow slant eyes, they wont mind us laughing at them."

Case in point: If i say the n-word, i'll get a vacation instantly. But the mods probably wont even take a second glance at the jap thing.

wow. you need to relax. i hardly see japs as being a racial slur. What else would you call them other than japanese which i see japs as a shortened form of. I mean I can think of some other racial slurs for japanese people that would instantly piss them off but is it me or am I the only one that doesn't see how japs is a racial slur

btw i'm asian
 

DJFuji

Diamond Member
Oct 18, 1999
3,643
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No one gives a sh!t if you do or do not see something as a racial slur. i dont see the n-word as a racial slur, should i go around calling black people that? "But dude, you need to relax, it's ok, i dont see that as being a racial slur so its ok." Perhaps you should do your research into the history of the word before you make an ass of yourself by assuming that it's "simply a short version of 'japanese'".
 
Mar 15, 2003
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I enjoy the show but it's a bigger cocktease than a high school cheerleader sucking a lollipop... Seriously, the sylar / peter fight then the storming of the detention center - such an opportunity for ass kickery yet they ended it, right when we were waiting for our jaw to hit the floor. Give us some action!
 

UpgradeFailure

Golden Member
Feb 29, 2004
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Someone explain something to me? When Peter, Hiro and Ando are in the main building, going to save Past Hiro, they have that lobby fight and all that, then Hiro gets into the elevator with a smirk. They cut to upstairs with Matt and his crew waiting with guns, the door opens, no Hiro around. Then they cut to Past Hiro and Mohinder and them, etc, Mohinder goes to the door and Future hiro is coming (With dead guards in the backround). So, uh, where was he when the elevator doors opened, and etc?
 
Mar 15, 2003
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Also, I'm tired of all the little stupid mistakes in every episode. Why doesn't Mohinder slit Sylar's throat after he knocks him over with the bookcase? Why does young Hiro have to be the one to time travel and kill Sylar, can't old Hiro do that? When Sylar morphs into Peter's brother, can't the world tell that his orating skills and charm are just absent now? Couldn't his wife tell? His brother? His own mom? I mean, can you rip open someone's head and read their personality too?

I like the show but, please, stop the lazy writing. Or just show Claire in a wet t-shirt, often.. Making out with Jessica...
 
Mar 15, 2003
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Originally posted by: DJFuji
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: DJFuji
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
After seeing the last episode (Tivo), all I can think is "Brokeback Hiro." Not that that's a bad think - those two Japs make a cute couple! Travel in time when future Hiro is alive and you've got yourself a three-some!

watch the racial slurs.

Oh, come on - I obviously meant it in a tongue and cheek manner. Hiro's my favorite character in the show and my cat is named after a Miyazaki heroine (Kiki). I aint racist, I love Japs and I love chinks too!
P.S. The chinks thing was a Conan/Sarah Silverman reference from a TV-PG rated episode.

I know it was tongue in cheek. But i'm sick and tired of racial slurs being non-PC for every ****** ethnicity but asians. Go call a black man the n-word (see? its not even PC to say it in reference) and then tell him 'oh gimme a break it was tongue in cheek'. After he beats your ass, society will say 'he was justified, you were oppressing him.'

Asians are so non-militant that people feel they can walk all over us. Remember the "two wongs make it white" shirts put out by abercrombie? Granted that was a funny shirt and i would have bought it myself if i could find one...but the point is that the only reason that even hit the store shelves was because people think they can walk all over asians. That never would have happened to blacks or latinos because they stand up for themselves and because there would have been a ****** uproar. I'm tired of the attitude of "oh dont mind the silly yellow slant eyes, they wont mind us laughing at them."

Case in point: If i say the n-word, i'll get a vacation instantly. But the mods probably wont even take a second glance at the jap thing.

******, please! Just kidding, I'm sorry for offending you but did not mean Jap with any hostility. I'm asian too, though the brown variety. I personally really dig Japanese, Korean, and Chinese culture and only really hate Mexicans. See, that was a joke too. Point taken but my intent was not a harmful one, I just didn't feel like typing out "those two Japanese fellows" so instead typed "Japs"
 

oddyager

Diamond Member
May 21, 2005
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Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
Someone explain something to me? When Peter, Hiro and Ando are in the main building, going to save Past Hiro, they have that lobby fight and all that, then Hiro gets into the elevator with a smirk. They cut to upstairs with Matt and his crew waiting with guns, the door opens, no Hiro around. Then they cut to Past Hiro and Mohinder and them, etc, Mohinder goes to the door and Future hiro is coming (With dead guards in the backround). So, uh, where was he when the elevator doors opened, and etc?

Maybe he went up in a different elevator.

What I want to know is why weren't we treated with Mortal Kombat-esque fight in the hallway between Sylar and Peter?
 

Falloutboy

Diamond Member
Jan 2, 2003
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Originally posted by: oddyager
What I want to know is why weren't we treated with Mortal Kombat-esque fight in the hallway between Sylar and Peter?

well if we saw what endgame sylar and peter were like then we would be non impressed by current peter/syler. that and effects budgets
 

Fenixgoon

Lifer
Jun 30, 2003
32,886
12,165
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Originally posted by: oddyager
Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
Someone explain something to me? When Peter, Hiro and Ando are in the main building, going to save Past Hiro, they have that lobby fight and all that, then Hiro gets into the elevator with a smirk. They cut to upstairs with Matt and his crew waiting with guns, the door opens, no Hiro around. Then they cut to Past Hiro and Mohinder and them, etc, Mohinder goes to the door and Future hiro is coming (With dead guards in the backround). So, uh, where was he when the elevator doors opened, and etc?

Maybe he went up in a different elevator.

What I want to know is why weren't we treated with Mortal Kombat-esque fight in the hallway between Sylar and Peter?

you know, you can press the button and step outside of the elevator
 

ColdFusion718

Diamond Member
Mar 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: DJFuji
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
After seeing the last episode (Tivo), all I can think is "Brokeback Hiro." Not that that's a bad think - those two Japs make a cute couple! Travel in time when future Hiro is alive and you've got yourself a three-some!

watch the racial slurs.

Oh, come on - I obviously meant it in a tongue and cheek manner. Hiro's my favorite character in the show and my cat is named after a Miyazaki heroine (Kiki). I aint racist, I love Japs and I love chinks too!
P.S. The chinks thing was a Conan/Sarah Silverman reference from a TV-PG rated episode.

THAT WAS UNCALLED FOR!!! :|

 

chuckywang

Lifer
Jan 12, 2004
20,133
1
0
Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
Originally posted by: Falloutboy
Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
So at first it seemed like this was an alternate timeline (One where the bomb went off and Claire was dead), because Future Hiro said he stabbed Sylar but he healed himself. So that's why he went back to tell Peter to save her. But it turns out this was a "Current" timeline, (Because claire was still alive, so that means this timeline was taking place after Peter saved her) , so if that's true, how did sylar heal himself when future hiro stabbed him?

Peter was always the bomb, so saving claire didn't do a whole lot to change the timeline like hiro wanted.

But Hiro said he stabbed Sylar and he just healed himself. But how could he if in that current timeline, Claire was alive?

Hiro stabbed Sylar in the alternate timeline (when Sylar absorbed Claire's power). Upon realizing this, Hiro then went back in time and told Peter to save Claire. When Hiro teleported back to the future again, then that is the future of the current timeline (Claire is still alive). He must not have killed Sylar in the current timeline either, hence Sylar still being alive.
 

NFS4

No Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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LMAO, Parkman is doing Weight Watchers commercials now. He says he's lost 31 pounds
 

chuckywang

Lifer
Jan 12, 2004
20,133
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Let me pose this question: If Parkman is now working so closely with the ersatz Nathan Petrelli, who is really Sylar, then why hasn't the Haitian been close enough to Sylar in order for his shape-shifting powers to be blocked? As far as I can tell from this episode, the Haitian and Parkman are joined at the hip.
 

Oceandevi

Diamond Member
Jan 20, 2006
3,085
1
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Originally posted by: chuckywang
Let me pose this question: If Parkman is now working so closely with the ersatz Nathan Petrelli, who is really Sylar, then why hasn't the Haitian been close enough to Sylar in order for his shape-shifting powers to be blocked? As far as I can tell from this episode, the Haitian and Parkman are joined at the hip.

You could fit every dinosaur in Jurassic Park through all these plot holes..

but damn I still love the show, I wanted to see scar face nail nikki though. I kid!!!
 

Linux23

Lifer
Apr 9, 2000
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Originally posted by: NFS4
LMAO, Parkman is doing Weight Watchers commercials now. He says he's lost 31 pounds

I haven't seen anything. And he will always be Sean Blumberg to me.
 

RaistlinZ

Diamond Member
Oct 15, 2001
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Is Sylar pretty much impossible to kill now that he has the cheerleader's regrowth powers? That was the one thing that Peter had that gave him an edge, now they're both about equal in powers/abilities.
 

ColdFusion718

Diamond Member
Mar 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: RaistlinZ
Is Sylar pretty much impossible to kill now that he has the cheerleader's regrowth powers? That was the one thing that Peter had that gave him an edge, now they're both about equal in powers/abilities.

Just stab him in the brain stem with a tree branch or a glass shard.
 

NFS4

No Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: RaistlinZ
Is Sylar pretty much impossible to kill now that he has the cheerleader's regrowth powers? That was the one thing that Peter had that gave him an edge, now they're both about equal in powers/abilities.

That was the future. That storyline is now dead AFAIK.
 

KnickNut3

Platinum Member
Oct 1, 2001
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I'm surprised how quickly it became a "slap you in the face"-obvious allegory of 9/11. They is a type of people that the general public doesn't understand, a small portion of whom cause an explosion in New York City that kills a lot of people, so now many people would prefer the genocide of all those types of people so that some of them cannot commit similar acts.

Did they actually film the speech at the WTC site? Looked like it.
 
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