:thumbsup:Originally posted by: NFS4
You mofos are thinking WAY to much into this. Just watch the show and enjoy the action. That's what I do. All of this over analyzing just takes away from the fun.
Originally posted by: KnickNut3
I'm surprised how quickly it became a "slap you in the face"-obvious allegory of 9/11. They is a type of people that the general public doesn't understand, a small portion of whom cause an explosion in New York City that kills a lot of people, so now many people would prefer the genocide of all those types of people so that some of them cannot commit similar acts.
Did they actually film the speech at the WTC site? Looked like it.
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: RaistlinZ
Is Sylar pretty much impossible to kill now that he has the cheerleader's regrowth powers? That was the one thing that Peter had that gave him an edge, now they're both about equal in powers/abilities.
That was the future. That storyline is now dead AFAIK.
Originally posted by: OverVolt
:thumbsup:Originally posted by: NFS4
You mofos are thinking WAY to much into this. Just watch the show and enjoy the action. That's what I do. All of this over analyzing just takes away from the fun.
I was watching with my mom, every commercial break she sat there trying to figure out what was going on. She came up with this off-base theory, then it came back on and it turned outh Nathan was Sylar. Next commercial break i was like SDFU just watch!
Originally posted by: DJFuji
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: DJFuji
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
After seeing the last episode (Tivo), all I can think is "Brokeback Hiro." Not that that's a bad think - those two Japs make a cute couple! Travel in time when future Hiro is alive and you've got yourself a three-some!
watch the racial slurs.
Oh, come on - I obviously meant it in a tongue and cheek manner. Hiro's my favorite character in the show and my cat is named after a Miyazaki heroine (Kiki). I aint racist, I love Japs and I love chinks too!
P.S. The chinks thing was a Conan/Sarah Silverman reference from a TV-PG rated episode.
I know it was tongue in cheek. But i'm sick and tired of racial slurs being non-PC for every ****** ethnicity but asians. Go call a black man the n-word (see? its not even PC to say it in reference) and then tell him 'oh gimme a break it was tongue in cheek'. After he beats your ass, society will say 'he was justified, you were oppressing him.'
Asians are so non-militant that people feel they can walk all over us. Remember the "two wongs make it white" shirts put out by abercrombie? Granted that was a funny shirt and i would have bought it myself if i could find one...but the point is that the only reason that even hit the store shelves was because people think they can walk all over asians. That never would have happened to blacks or latinos because they stand up for themselves and because there would have been a ****** uproar. I'm tired of the attitude of "oh dont mind the silly yellow slant eyes, they wont mind us laughing at them."
Case in point: If i say the n-word, i'll get a vacation instantly. But the mods probably wont even take a second glance at the jap thing.
Originally posted by: hdeck
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: RaistlinZ
Is Sylar pretty much impossible to kill now that he has the cheerleader's regrowth powers? That was the one thing that Peter had that gave him an edge, now they're both about equal in powers/abilities.
That was the future. That storyline is now dead AFAIK.
unless future sylar kills future peter and gets all his powers and can then time travel. or future peter accidentally time travels while sylar is touching him:Q oh the possibilites!
I agree with you that Hiro had it all wrong, but what do you mean by: "it was always Peter"? As in 'Save the Cheerleader, and (Peter) Save(s) the World'?Originally posted by: djheater
Reading through the last two pages I'm surprised at how people are confused by sylar\peter\claire regeneration thing/
The timeline was not changed. Hiro was wrong all along.
Claire is not dead. Sylar never killed claire, never got regrowth, Hiro thought that if Sylar did not have regeneration, he could kill Sylar before Sylar goes nuke, that's why he comes back and tells Peter to save the cheerleader... but it was never Sylar. It was always Peter.
I suspect that there will be an explosion but perhaps not as big and the area will be evacuated beforehand. (AFAIK all of Issac's paintings/comics/sketches have come true. Interpretation is a different mater.)Originally posted by: Kev
I will be impressed if they let the bomb go off in the end. That's the only way to avoid all the silly time travel loopholes.
Well considering that Future Hiro dies in this episode and didn't witness the fight, he couldn't have been talking about the Peter & Sylar smack-down.Originally posted by: everman
Anyone else think that "save the world" does not refer to the bomb in N.Y.? What if it refers to the battle between Peter and Sylar at the end of this episode?
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: DJFuji
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: DJFuji
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
After seeing the last episode (Tivo), all I can think is "Brokeback Hiro." Not that that's a bad think - those two Japs make a cute couple! Travel in time when future Hiro is alive and you've got yourself a three-some!
watch the racial slurs.
Oh, come on - I obviously meant it in a tongue and cheek manner. Hiro's my favorite character in the show and my cat is named after a Miyazaki heroine (Kiki). I aint racist, I love Japs and I love chinks too!
P.S. The chinks thing was a Conan/Sarah Silverman reference from a TV-PG rated episode.
I know it was tongue in cheek. But i'm sick and tired of racial slurs being non-PC for every ****** ethnicity but asians. Go call a black man the n-word (see? its not even PC to say it in reference) and then tell him 'oh gimme a break it was tongue in cheek'. After he beats your ass, society will say 'he was justified, you were oppressing him.'
Asians are so non-militant that people feel they can walk all over us. Remember the "two wongs make it white" shirts put out by abercrombie? Granted that was a funny shirt and i would have bought it myself if i could find one...but the point is that the only reason that even hit the store shelves was because people think they can walk all over asians. That never would have happened to blacks or latinos because they stand up for themselves and because there would have been a ****** uproar. I'm tired of the attitude of "oh dont mind the silly yellow slant eyes, they wont mind us laughing at them."
Case in point: If i say the n-word, i'll get a vacation instantly. But the mods probably wont even take a second glance at the jap thing.
Wow you are really out there. Jap is more accepted now because it's more of an abbreviation of their Country (although it's really Nippon to them). My wife is japanese from japan, she has only been here for 5 years or so. She is over 30 like me. It doesn't phase her so much as it does for those that never lived in japan.
Anyway if the asians aren't going to stand up like the latinos and 'blacks', are you their avatar? I think it's about a culture not wanting to portray themselves as a victim.
Originally posted by: hdeck
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: RaistlinZ
Is Sylar pretty much impossible to kill now that he has the cheerleader's regrowth powers? That was the one thing that Peter had that gave him an edge, now they're both about equal in powers/abilities.
That was the future. That storyline is now dead AFAIK.
unless future sylar kills future peter and gets all his powers and can then time travel. or future peter accidentally time travels while sylar is touching him:Q oh the possibilites!
Originally posted by: djheater
REading through the last two pages I'm surprised at how people are confused by sylar\peter\claire regeneration thing/
The timeline was not changed. Hiro was wrong all along.
Claire is not dead. Sylar never killed claire, never got regrowth, Hiro thought that if Sylar did not have regeneration, he could kill Sylar before Sylar goes nuke, that's why he comes back and tells Peter to save the cheerleader... but it was never Sylar. It was always Peter.
Originally posted by: DJFuji
No one gives a sh!t if you do or do not see something as a racial slur. i dont see the n-word as a racial slur, should i go around calling black people that? "But dude, you need to relax, it's ok, i dont see that as being a racial slur so its ok." Perhaps you should do your research into the history of the word before you make an ass of yourself by assuming that it's "simply a short version of 'japanese'".
Originally posted by: DJFuji
Oh, i'm sorry you have a japanese wife.
Originally posted by: TheChort
Originally posted by: djheater
REading through the last two pages I'm surprised at how people are confused by sylar\peter\claire regeneration thing/
The timeline was not changed. Hiro was wrong all along.
Claire is not dead. Sylar never killed claire, never got regrowth, Hiro thought that if Sylar did not have regeneration, he could kill Sylar before Sylar goes nuke, that's why he comes back and tells Peter to save the cheerleader... but it was never Sylar. It was always Peter.
I agree with everything you said, except ...
Future Hiro specifically says, (in Japanese) "I stabbed him, but he regenerated"
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: TheChort
Originally posted by: djheater
REading through the last two pages I'm surprised at how people are confused by sylar\peter\claire regeneration thing/
The timeline was not changed. Hiro was wrong all along.
Claire is not dead. Sylar never killed claire, never got regrowth, Hiro thought that if Sylar did not have regeneration, he could kill Sylar before Sylar goes nuke, that's why he comes back and tells Peter to save the cheerleader... but it was never Sylar. It was always Peter.
I agree with everything you said, except ...
Future Hiro specifically says, (in Japanese) "I stabbed him, but he regenerated"
That's what I said.
He regenerated because he was Peter. To borrow your venacular; Future Hiro in the first ep. thought that Sylar had killed Claire and stolen her power, when he blew up, that's how, to Hiro, Sylar was able to regenerate. The fact is that future Hiro was wrong, when future Hiro stabbed the 'blowing up guy' it was Peter, even though he didn't realize it.
Originally posted by: Aikouka
One thing I found interesting is how smart Sylar was in him taking on Nathan's persona, since Nathan had access to the identity of all the special people, which is what Sylar wanted. Also, by "curing" them, he would get to see them and no one would necessarily complain if you cut open some dead person's head .
Also, I wonder how Sylar killed DL? DL can phase out and become immaterial, he must've been unconscious or something to be killed by Sylar.