High Performance Vid Bios

[Spike]

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
ok its about time i point this out to you...

mosfets heatsink

use ASC under that little heatsink

I was wondering what that was... thanks for the pic! I assume those things in the end are screws so I don't need to use the epoxy for this? Man, this one card is going to exhaust my little tube of ASC...

another random question, is there any way to read the temps of the ram on the 6800GT? I am asking because my NV5 does not seem to make the greatest contact with one of the sets of ram and I was fairly stingy with the ASC when I applied it (I completely covered the chips and did not scrap it as thin as I did with the GPU but I definitly did not lather it on)

-spike

 

[THUGSROOK]

they are pushpins in that heatsink ~ use ASC or typical white goop

nope no mem temps.

i hate hearing about NV5, i cant stand those POS things. (prepares for NV5 fanboy onslought)

 

[Spike]

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
they are pushpins in that heatsink ~ use ASC or typical white goop

nope no mem temps.

i hate hearing about NV5, i cant stand those POS things. (prepares for NV5 fanboy onslought)

Dunno if I would call them a POS, but definitly MUCH better than that freakish loud dual 40mm cooler that came with my BFG card. The NV cooled down the load temps and lowered my case temp due to it's exhaust. I like the quaility of the BFG cards, just not their coolers!

-spike

 

[THUGSROOK]

you are correct, those dual 40mm BFG 1 slot heatsinks are the worst things ever made. no wonder you went NV5.

 

[THUGSROOK]

> morning bump!

 

[OrangeParktech]

So should i put the ASC on before i even install the card then?

And would you recommend getting the card flashed before or after a fresh load of windows?

I was planning on a fresh load when the card came. Im just wondering if i should do all this before or after.

BTW, i think the card may be delivered today. Im hoping so anyway. Again, its the 425/1100 evga Ultra. My plan was to apply the asc, install the card and boot up. Then flash the bios, get the 66.93 drivers and coolbits and see how far it will overclock and if all is well, load windows fresh and install whatever you guys think is the best driver for that particular card for me.

If any of that could be better done in another order, im all ears.

Also, the only other Vid card bios i have flashed is the 9800 pro. I see alot on this floppy, i assume the nvflash and gtu.rom are the only things of importance to me on there?

I wont be making a backup because i trust 100% that this works, and i know evga has the newest official bios right on their site for download anyway.

Looks as if it is surely coming today, so its time for the Core,Ram, and "Mosfets" to get some ASC action...lol

Also, knowing i have the radeon, how much performance would be lost by not reloading windows? Im sure i will reload anyway, as it only takes 7 minutes with the raptor drive, but i was curious anyhow.

OK, i think i've exceeded my daily limit on questions....thanks.

 

[JBDan]

Tx thug for your GS bios! The NV5 has been nothing but SOLID for me and its inaudible. Hate to hear the "bad" about this cooler, but I guess it goes hand in hand with "mass production."

 

[rise]

ehh, a bump cuz i can't get away from this damn thread.

i had decided not to try this once thugs pulled the GT support and maybe my coffee just hasn't kicked in yet but i'm thinking it may be worth a shot.

my card is running really cool with the 6.93, haven't done chit to i but put the as5 and silencer on it and tried oc'ing but was disappointed with the results (375/1080) so now leave it at stock.

the voltage things gets me confused/uneasy as i previously just ran in the opposite direction when it came to anything to do with volts/watts etc. basically, i don't want to f up my evga if the PCB can't handle the higher voltage and i would like to be able to reach ultra speeds. i guess i'm unclear if these bios would actually help me do that or the chip just can't go over what i have reached already. again, temps aren't an issue (low 50's load low 40's idle). psu seems good, but i got a multimeter i'm going to use when i open my case up again.

and the other nagging question i have: does the coolbits program help the oc in any way more than just adding a single d-word edit to the registry does? IIRC, coolbits has like 20 lines or something it adds.

anyway, thugs, congrats on your article!

 

[THUGSROOK]

OrangeParktech ~ never make any mods w/o having baseline results first.
overclocking is science, treat it like science.

rise4310 ~ i do not suggest or support coolbits 2 or 3. i will not even help you with a problem if you tell me you use it. use the original coolbits.reg.

 

[rise]

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
OrangeParktech ~ never make any mods w/o having baseline results first.
overclocking is science, treat it like science.

rise4310 ~ i do not suggest or support coolbits 2 or 3. i will not even help you with a problem if you tell me you use it. use the original coolbits.reg.

i used to just add a single d-word, which version is that?

i think i used to use the original one, but i recently just add the d-word. currently i just have stock, no hack.

does cool reg that you refer to do more than just the d-word does?

 

[THUGSROOK]

yes coolbits.reg is a single d-word

its offered in the BE thread

 

[rise]

gotcha, i know the d-word just was always confused why the others had about 20 entries that didn't appear to do anything

thanks

 

[THUGSROOK]

Originally posted by: rise4310
gotcha, i know the d-word just was always confused why the others had about 20 entries that didn't appear to do anything

thanks

exactly!

 

[OrangeParktech]

OK, all done and all worked like a champ.

Now, coolbits 2 is detecting my optimal frequencies at 449/1.19.

Where is this number in relation to what is actually safe for the card to run at? Forgive me, but i haven;t used Nvidia since the geforce 2 Ultra.

Am i safe at this number, above it, below it, etc...because 450/1200 is EE, and that is rather tempting.

Lemme know.

 

[zakee00]

Originally posted by: OrangeParktech
OK, all done and all worked like a champ.

Now, coolbits 2 is detecting my optimal frequencies at 449/1.19.

Where is this number in relation to what is actually safe for the card to run at? Forgive me, but i haven;t used Nvidia since the geforce 2 Ultra.

Am i safe at this number, above it, below it, etc...because 450/1200 is EE, and that is rather tempting.

Lemme know.

you bastard
as long as your temps stay under 75C, and you arent getting any artifacts, you are safe.
push that mofo up to 450/1200 and see if you get any artifacts in 3DMark05. if you do, lower the speeds until you don't. use RTHDRIBL to monitor your temps.

 

[OrangeParktech]

What im getting is freezing in 3dmark. then it just starts going again. Its killing the score.

 

[THUGSROOK]

i do not support coolbits2

youll need to R&R your drivers and use coolbits.reg before ill help troubleshoot any further.

 

[OrangeParktech]

OK, it did a 3dmark03 run at 435/1170 and scored a 13366. Then at 450/1200 it scored a 12768. I guess i went too far with the clocks.

Im going to try 440/1180 etc tommorow, but im too tired tonight to do it. Also, my temps seem to be at 53c the split second the score pops up, so im assuming they get up in the 60's during the test. I guess thats pretty good for the 6800's.

Again, consider me a bonafide Noob when it comes to the Nvidia stuff. So far it looks like 435/1170 is the sweet spot. BTW, i did put the ASC on the ram,core, and mosfets as instructed.

Coolbits now finds the optimal at 452/1200 after a little burn-in, but the score in 3dmark is lower at those settings.

 

[OrangeParktech]

no prob thugs, ill try that one in the morning then.

 

[THUGSROOK]

when you get that done ill teach you how correctly test for potential OCing (not detect optimal freqs, thats cr@p)

 

[THUGSROOK]

HOW TO TEST FOR OCing

first the mem....

1050 "test changes"
1100 " "
1150 " "
1200 " "
1250 " "
etc.

1200 was max that passed? ok keep it there.

now the core....
375 "test changes"
400 " "
410 " "
420 " "
425 " "
430 " "
435 " "
etc.

once you find the max (say its 430x1200) lower it a notch to 425x1150 and start benchmarking and stress testing.

thats how ya do it!

 

[OrangeParktech]

3dmark03 score 13535

440/1200 was the sweet spot for the card so far. Not sure if it would do more after the artic silver burns in a bit. But ill try. I wont push it past 450/1200 regardless...But, it gives me an extra 10 core to shoot for down the road.

Thanks for all the help.

 

[OrangeParktech]

http://home.comcast.net/~orangeparktech/13535.JPG

 

[OrangeParktech]

3dmark05 5825 score.

Thats close enough to joining the 6k club that it'll make you pull your hair out...lol

 

[rise]

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