High Performance Vid Bios

[CKTurbo128]

With THUGSROCK's BIOS on my BFG GF6800 Ultra, I was able to do 440/1150 stable. My GF6800U flakes out at around a core speed of 450. With more voltage, I could probably go higher, but since I am not on watercooling, I think I'll pass for now. As for the RAM, it appears that I got sucky RAM, as it crashes around 1170.

BUMPage up again. Don't let this thread fall into obsecurity!

 

[imported_BUNGL3]

My BFG 6800 Ultra OC overclocks to 450/1200 with no problems. Can this BIOS upgrade do any better ? I can see tighter timings improve benchmarks but what can it do for me as far as gaming performance ?

 

[CKTurbo128]

Possibly. My friend has a PNY GeForce 6800 GT that could only do 412/1170 using the eVGA UE BIOS, but when he flashed with THUGSROCK's BIOS, he could reach 425/1180 stable. So in some cases, it may even allow you to overclock even further.

 

[THUGSROOK]

TTT

 

[GnomeCop]

ok... I'm new to the whole bios flashing thing so...

I have a leadtek GF6800U
do i press 1 or 2 to flash the ultra or GT bios respectively.
i read that you flashed a ultra with a GT bios???

 

[zakee00]

Originally posted by: GnomeCop
ok... I'm new to the whole bios flashing thing so...

I have a leadtek GF6800U
do i press 1 or 2 to flash the ultra or GT bios respectively.
i read that you flashed a ultra with a GT bios???

im assuming you are using the floppy based one.
back up your current bios in case something goes wrong (forget which number it was, pretty self-explanitory), you can just flash back to your original.
then press 1 to flash your bios with the new one. (i think it was 1)

yes, it is a 6800GT bios so your card will appear as a 6800GT to your computer but while having better performance than your 6800U because of the tighter GT RAM timings.

BTW here are my results with the new GTU bios:
Original OC with Stock cooling and GTU bios:
400/1100
Idle: 49C
Load: 80-90C
New OC with VF-700 Cu and GTU bios:
428/1150
Idle: 41C
Load: 61C

 

[THUGSROOK]

Originally posted by: GnomeCop
ok... I'm new to the whole bios flashing thing so...

I have a leadtek GF6800U
do i press 1 or 2 to flash the ultra or GT bios respectively.
i read that you flashed a ultra with a GT bios???

floppy version....
1) backup your current bios
2) restore original bios that was previously backed up
3) flash to the GTU bios

there is only 1 bios file on the disk, and yes it is a GT bios modded for a Ultra. you will need to OC it.

HTH

 

[GnomeCop]

I am using the cdrom version, I dont have a floppy drive
I flashed the GS GT bios (#1)
my 3dmark scored dropped almost 800pts (only benchmark I had time to run)
I used coolbits that I downloaded from thugs thread to overclock it to 425/1200

 

[GnomeCop]

ok nm, I flashed again using the bios on the floppy and it works
still trying to find my stable settings, so far though I broke 5600 in 3dmark 2k5
before I barely got 5400
runs a little cooler. I have it closked at 450/1200 but I think I will back it down and overclock my cpu instead.
my pentium M is at the base 2.0ghz.

 

[Murd0ck]

Hey guys, sorry for the interruption here.

I was asking about the evga 6800U's potential for overclocking and Paktu linked me up with this thread.

I am buying a 6800 ultra pci-e card. I want to use a waterblock (nv68, silverprop, or maze4?)

My "budget" is 500-600 USD for the card.

So my questions are:

1. Which 6800U pci-e card/s will most likely lend itself to the highest OC?
2. Any GPU waterblock reccomendations? Pump is an Iwaki RD-30.

This is generally directed at Thugsrock, but any suggestions are needed and welcome.

I wanted to get this Card from dabs.com (2600 golden sample) but dabs won't ship outside of UK and I can't find any over here (US).

Sorry again for the off topic post, I want to be here asking bios questions, I'm just a step away..

 

[THUGSROOK]

i have no experience with either of those two items at all, so i cant give any recommendations.

 

[Murd0ck]

Ok, I'll just get the evga 6800 ultra pci-e and hope for the best like everyone else I guess?? (489.00 shipped- newegg). Thanks again, Chuck.

 

[imported_humey]

NVIDIA BIOS Editor (NiBiTor) v2.1 Released

Changes in this Version

- Added option to edit all 8 timingsets of GeForce 6 cards
- Added support for:
--> Quadro FX Go1400
--> Quadro FX 1300 PCI-E
--> GeForce FX5700 VE
- Fixed Go6800 BIOS issues
- Fixed BIOSes with device type "NVIDIA PCIE-E 6800 Series GPU"
- Various bugfixes


May be now the real ultra bios can have timmings changed instead of running a GT bios.

 

[imported_humey]

Hmm, ok i gained 300odd points with the GTU bios as of timmings in 3D Mark 2005, but it didnt let me raise core or memory any more than my standard bios i was maxed out without artifacts at 465/1230.

I then used this new build of the tool in topic to mod this bios to 1.6v as there aint a 1.5v option, ok it lets me test core at 480mhz (as far as i went, i stopped there), but still get artifacts around 470mhz and memory still maxed at 1230mhz, fails test run after than in coolbits and rivatuner.

So i gained a jump from 1.4v to 1.6v probably adding heat although its still like under 68C on load (room temp was cooler than normal now heating is on i test later at 21-23C )
And i gained next to nothing on the core without artifacts even with that 0.2v jump (again prob added heat to).

I think i can say its not cooling as its not running hot, yes the addition of the artic silver 5 on core/memory and ceramic (non conductive) on the small volts mosfets helped me get to whwre i am and the GTu bios helped great in 3D Mark2005 scores, but the extra volts in modding bios did nothing for me, this is probably the cards amx and its great as it ran 450-460/1219 anyhow on normal bios without artifacts, but i assumed as long as it was cool the extra volts would let core not only pass higher tess on the sliders in coobits (which it did) but actuall run them speeds with no artifacts, i cant justify a 4-5max gain on core and no gain on memeory for a 0.2v hike and extra heat to my card.

 

[imported_humey]

del

 

[uOpt]

Here is my test report:

EVGA 6800 Ultra, with that fat Zalmann all-copper cooler.

The card is fast enough for my taste, but the thing that was nagging me most was the power consumption when in 2D idle mode. The card takes a lot more power than my 5900XT, when doing nothing. The GTU BIOS lowers the voltage in 2D, so it should help.

The GTU BIOS lowered the idle-mode power consumption from 150 to 144 watts (complete machine before PSU).

Loaded wattage for the whole machine went down from 262 to 252 watts with the default clockspeed, temperature went from 74 to 70 celsius.

However, default clockspeed means that the GTU BIOS has lower clockspeed (although better RAM timing), so my Doom3 FPSes went down from 52.9 to 46.8.

When trying to clock back to normal Ultra speed, I had to discover that the Linux "nvclock" program doesn't work right with the GTU BIOS. Any change in RAM or GPU clockspeed would slow the card to a crawl (around 5 FPS).

I put the old BIOS back and the "nvclock" program works fine with it. I don't get useful overclocking speeds out of it with the standard Ultra BIOS, so I am back where I started at default speeds. Depending on how that Zalman and the Ultra live through my non-A/C summer I will probably clock it at Ultra Extreme speeds, though, at least when there are heavier games coming out.

The Zalman cooler rocks, though, highly recommended, it shut up the card real good, and lowers GPU temp by 3 degrees C in the high-RPM and only raises by 4 degrees C in the low-RPM mode. I just don't understand why they don't interface with anything where you could switch between high and low from software.

 

[imported_humey]

Hmm. i wont bother then using a Zalamn for 3C cooler, why you trying to game in Linux ?

Thanks for info seems only that 1 site in my other thread had great results or so they claim,

 

[uOpt]

What is 3C?

I do have Windoze for gaming but I don't fiddle with it. Computer fiddling is left to Linux and FreeBSD.

The guy who writes the overclocking utility for Linux actually told me that he doesn't recommend BIOS ptches that mess with the voltage. I think it is very likely his tool can't cope with the new BIOS, as seen in my results.

But overall, the card is fast enough, I wanted the power usage down, which didn't work as planned.

 

[imported_humey]

You said its 3 Degrees C cooler

 

[imported_humey]

The bios doesnt mess with volts, is 1.4v unless you edit it to 1.6v.

Do you think he is always correct ?, in that case dont ever o/c pc.

 

[uOpt]

The Zalman is quieter, that was the point. It would perform better if I gave it a little more room, but my panaflows are above the AGP port, not below.

Anybody knows where I could buy a double slot shield (whatever it is called in English) that has airholes?

BTW, the GTU bios lowers the 2D voltage which is what I need for idle mode. I couldn't parse your last remark, who is supposed to be always correct?