Hillary makes it official

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Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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A relic of a bygone era.

She will not be President, she had her chance in 2008. Democrat voters rejected her then, they will reject her now.
 

rudeguy

Lifer
Dec 27, 2001
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A relic of a bygone era.

She will not be President, she had her chance in 2008. Democrat voters rejected her then, they will reject her now.

I don't know man....

We had our first black president and they are already cranking up the gender machine. Maybe people will get on board the first woman president hype?

I have a feeling this is going to be one of the nastiest elections we've seen. I am not looking forward to that. I'd much rather see debate on what changes are best for the country than a bunch of mud slinging.
 

norseamd

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Dec 13, 2013
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She will not be President, she had her chance in 2008. Democrat voters rejected her then, they will reject her now.

The only place where Hillary might lose Democrats is in the Primaries. No way are Democrats going to vote for any Republican candidates over Hillary given the current Republican contenders.
 

norseamd

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Are you saying you think McCain's campaign platform remained consistent between 2000 and 2008? If not, what you're saying doesn't make any sense.

Got mad at John for this as his 2008 platform was way worse than his earlier presidential election platforms.
 

BoberFett

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I still think its way, way, way too early to be decided or even guessing who to vote for.

I'm even giving Hillary a fair chance at my vote.

How could one not know whether they'd vote for Hillary or not? It's not like she's an unknown and her views on [policy] will surprise you.

Rand Paul would be the least bad Republican candidate, but he's far more waffly than his father and more typical neocon-GOP with some libertarian sounding rhetoric thrown in to sound good. I can't say I'd vote for him.

Hillary might as well be Bush. Or Clinton. No way I'd vote for her.

It'll be another year to vote L and "throw away" my vote IN ALMOST TWO DAMN YEARS.

How sad that these self-aggrandizing assholes believe the world needs or wants to hear their tripe for the next 18 months.
 
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BoberFett

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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A relic of a bygone era.

She will not be President, she had her chance in 2008. Democrat voters rejected her then, they will reject her now.

No they won't. Hillary will be the next president, I all but guarantee it.

What other dark horse is going to show up and steal it from her?

And what Democrat won't want to crow about how they elected the first female US president?

Might as well get used to saying President Clinton. Again.
 

Perknose

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Got mad at John for this as his 2008 platform was way worse than his earlier presidential election platforms.

Before 2000, his words and his openness and his willingness to challenge Republican orthodoxy made him seem like a rational breath of fresh air.

Therefore, I was mystified when he kissed Dubya's ass after Dubya beat him out for the nomination in 2000 while employing some truly scurrilous dirty tricks and slurs.

By the time he got to 2008, John McCain was not the man or candidate I had previously thought/hoped he would be.

But, yeah, I'm with eskimospy re: those several fiercely anti-Obama posters here who, in the course of slagging Barry, praised Hillary as a far better, standd-up, non-Muslim communist alternative.

I was startled then by what looked like hypocritical Hillary praise by them, and I immediately thought about how, if and when she ran, they would do a complete about face and show their true colors.

Cliffs: Not analogous to the McCain situation at all, imho.
 

norseamd

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By the time he got to 2008, John McCain was not the man or candidate I had previously thought/hoped he would be.

Yep. I used to like him a lot when I was still a kid back in late 90s or so. Although I never paid much attention to politics when I was older until the 2004 election I still had some respect for John. Now I seem him as someone who is just as much the corrupt politician even if he is willing to go against the rest of the Republican Party on certain concerns. As of right now I still have some minor respect for Pat Buchanan despite his very conservative ideology just because he tends to be more frank and does no lie as much as the other politicians.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Before 2000, his words and his openness and his willingness to challenge Republican orthodoxy made him seem like a rational breath of fresh air.

Therefore, I was mystified when he kissed Dubya's ass after Dubya beat him out for the nomination in 2000 while employing some truly scurrilous dirty tricks and slurs.

By the time he got to 2008, John McCain was not the man or candidate I had previously thought/hoped he would be.

But, yeah, I'm with eskimospy re: those several fiercely anti-Obama posters here who, in the course of slagging Barry, praised Hillary as a far better, standd-up, non-Muslim communist alternative.

I was startled then by what looked like hypocritical Hillary praise by them, and I immediately thought about how, if and when she ran, they would do a complete about face and show their true colors.


Cliffs: Not analogous to the McCain situation at all, imho.


Lol, so true!


I also don't remember a single person complaining about a second bush being elected. But a second clinton? Hell no! That's oligarchy!

I look forward to a year of total hypocrisy by the right and when their right wing candidate doesn't win I'll enjoy their, "he wasn't a real conservative"
 

theeedude

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Feb 5, 2006
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Republicans are again going to obsess about the Democrat primary, like they did in 2008, and nominate some loser.
 

norseamd

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Well if I was John no way would I ever forgive Bush and Karl Rove for this. Using race as a way to smear an adopted child as the daughter of a prostitute? Just plain reprehensible.

In the South Carolina primary, McCain's momentum was halted by a strongly negative Bush campaign. Although the Bush campaign said it was not behind any attacks (more on this below), locals who supported Bush reportedly handed out fliers and made telephone calls to prospective voters suggesting among other things, that McCain was a "Manchurian candidate" and that he had fathered a child out of wedlock with a black New York-based prostitute (an incorrect reference to a child he and his wife had adopted from Bangladesh). McCain won primaries in Michigan, his home state of Arizona, and a handful of Northeastern states, but faced difficulty in appealing to conservative Republican primary voters in spite of demonstrated support from Democrats and independents. Bush's victories in states like California and New York as well as conservative Southern states gained him the nomination long before the Republican Convention.

Allegations were made that Karl Rove was responsible for a South Carolina push poll that used racist innuendo intended to undermine support for McCain: "Would you be more likely or less likely to vote for John McCain for president if you knew he had fathered an illegitimate black child?"[2] McCain campaign manager Richard Davis said he "had no idea who had made those calls, who paid for them, or how many were made," but in the 2004 film Bush's Brain, John Weaver, political director for McCain's 2000 campaign bid, stated, "I believe I know where that decision was made; it was at the top of the Bush campaign." Rove has continually denied any such involvement. The existence of such a poll is disputed since no recording of the poll has ever been documented (about 20% of robocalls are usually recorded by answering machines). ].
 

HomerJS

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Haha. Mitt Romney says Hillary out of touch because she hasn't driven a car in 18 years.

This coming from a guy who purchased an elevator for his cars.
 

rudeguy

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Haha. Mitt Romney says Hillary out of touch because she hasn't driven a car in 18 years.

This coming from a guy who purchased an elevator for his cars.

At least he drives his own cars.

He even pumps his own gas!


 
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East Asia "pivot".

http://journal-neo.org/2015/02/25/us-pivot-sends-asia-fleeing-toward-china/

US “Pivot” Sends Asia Fleeing Toward China

When former-US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton announced the US “pivot to Asia,” she and the policy wonks who dreamed it up probably imagined it as a well choreographed geopolitical masterstroke. In reality, it was more like an elephant crashing through the jungle, sending all in its path fleeing for cover well ahead of its arrival.

The empty rhetoric accompanying its announcement never materialized. Reading between the lines, what the “pivot” actually meant, was the doubling down on attempts to subvert, corral and otherwise twist the arms of Southeast Asia, South Asia and East Asia into arraying themselves for Washington’s convenience and gain, against the growing influence and power of Beijing.

American designs have unraveled everywhere from Malaysia to Thailand and the only steps of this pivot still in good form appear to be in Myanmar and the South China Sea where budding political subversion is growing in one and an escalating strategy of tension is growing in the other. Despite these “successes,” the prospects of Myanmar resigning itself to a future with close and growing ties to Beijing are unrealistic.

Likewise, the notion of a remilitarized Japan somehow containing China is untenable and more so each passing day.

Those capitulating today to Washington’s attempts to reorder Asia will only be setting their nations back in the years to come when ultimately the “pivot” fails, and all that is left is China and those nations that decided to move forward together with it on its way up.

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norseamd

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The increasing relations between China and other Asian countries would have occurred with or without the pivot so stop thinking like that. The question is are we actually doing what we need to? The increasing relations between China and South Korea are most alarming. And considering the concerning diplomacy the Thais are doing with China despite them often being considered one of our strongest partners in Southeast Asia the same thing occurred with Egypt recently starting to increase relations and political ties with the Russians despite there not being any pivot to the Near East.
 
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Wall Street Loves Her!

http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...street-loves-hillary-112782.html#.VSwAovnF8k0

While the finance industry does genuinely hate Warren, the big bankers love Clinton, and by and large they badly want her to be president. Many of the rich and powerful in the financial industry&#8212;among them, Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein, Morgan Stanley CEO James Gorman, Tom Nides, a powerful vice chairman at Morgan Stanley, and the heads of JPMorganChase and Bank of America&#8212;consider Clinton a pragmatic problem-solver not prone to populist rhetoric. To them, she&#8217;s someone who gets the idea that we all benefit if Wall Street and American business thrive. What about her forays into fiery rhetoric? They dismiss it quickly as political maneuvers. None of them think she really means her populism.
 
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