Holy crap literally poop bags

[Fanatical Meat]

Its always bothered me that one of my dogs craps goes into a bag that then goes into the ground for 1,000 years. I found these bags, the box states its made from corn starch and 40% degrades after 90 days. Not too specific about the other 60%. Still this is a great improvement for a small amount of money. The 75 bags cost about the same as the 100 bag pack.
Why aren't plastic cups, lids and stirrers made from this stuff?

 

[Kelvrick]

Because they cost more so the restaurants don't want to pay for them (usually).

When you think about it, I doubt these will ever actually biodegrade since they're compacted in with all that other trash and buried underground surrounded by whatever sheeting the landfills use.

I decided to go with the flushable bags. That way, the water treatment plant deals with the dog crap the same with all the other waste and then the bag gets filtered out and probably buried in the landfill. At least the crap is properly treated.

 

[sourceninja]

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[zinfamous]

Its always bothered me that one of my dogs craps goes into a bag that then goes into the ground for 1,000 years. I found these bags, the box states its made from corn starch and 40% degrades after 90 days. Not too specific about the other 60%. Still this is a great improvement for a small amount of money. The 75 bags cost about the same as the 100 bag pack.
Why aren't plastic cups, lids and stirrers made from this stuff?

Because they already are, and you pretty much find them everywhere these days?

At least, on this coast they are everywhere. They are a bit thicker and have a slightly brownish/yellowish tint to them. Nearly every restaurant seems to use those in their common utensil bins, and they are marked for "compost or trash," not recycling.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Because they already are, and you pretty much find them everywhere these days?

At least, on this coast they are everywhere. They are a bit thicker and have a slightly brownish/yellowish tint to them. Nearly every restaurant seems to use those in their common utensil bins, and they are marked for "compost or trash," not recycling.

I haven't noticed that around here (Massachusetts) admittedly coffee shops and such now have recycle bins but I wonder about the take out that ends up in trash cans. I thought you were a Midwesterner Zin?

oops I just noticed the Bay Area on your Avatar

 

[zinfamous]

I haven't noticed that around here (Massachusetts) admittedly coffee shops and such now have recycle bins but I wonder about the take out that ends up in trash cans. I thought you were a Midwesterner Zin?

oops I just noticed the Bay Area on your Avatar

I would wager that all of your Starbucks have them. It could be that there is some ridiculous CA mandate (at least a local township one) that requires a certain amount of compostable material, so it's why i see it everywhere. Well, I think such a thing is a good law, but it's always implemented poorly out there.



Technically I'm a southerner, and will be moving back there shortly (DC--IT'S STILL THE SOUTH!). Lived in Chicago for a few years, then out here for some years.

I much, much, much prefer the south and the people there, despite everything; to all that is out here. The midwest and midwesterners are OK, too. Well, the only thing I will miss out here is the food, and unlimited access to such. And all of it so cheap. It's incomparable to anywhere else in the country. It will be nice to see water again, though.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Dog just sniffed the box. He looks undecided about them. I wonder if its the China stench? We do our best to avoid made in China and no dog toys, treats or dog foods are allowed from China in my home.

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Because they cost more so the restaurants don't want to pay for them (usually).

When you think about it, I doubt these will ever actually biodegrade since they're compacted in with all that other trash and buried underground surrounded by whatever sheeting the landfills use.

I decided to go with the flushable bags. That way, the water treatment plant deals with the dog crap the same with all the other waste and then the bag gets filtered out and probably buried in the landfill. At least the crap is properly treated.

Yep, there are a lot of things that are biodegradable that sit in a landfill for a long ass time for that reason.

I'd be careful of anything that claims to be flushable unless you plan on an expensive visit from a plumber.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Yep, there are a lot of things that are biodegradable that sit in a landfill for a long ass time for that reason.

I'd be careful of anything that claims to be flushable unless you plan on an expensive visit from a plumber.

It has to sit for more than 90 days before its sealed in a landfill.
I could be wrong I have absolutely no experience in garbage processing.

 

[chitwood]

I thought you were a Midwesterner Zin?

oops I just noticed the Bay Area on your Avatar

more important question for Zin -

Is your Avatar a self portrait?

 

[lxskllr]

Yep, there are a lot of things that are biodegradable that sit in a landfill for a long ass time for that reason.

I'd be careful of anything that claims to be flushable unless you plan on an expensive visit from a plumber.

I was on a job a few years ago, and it was on the site of an old landfill. They were pulling up newspaper from WWII that was still readable. That landfill wasn't nearly as good as a modern site. I'd expect anything that goes in the ground today will last virtually forever.

 

[notposting]

The corn based pop cups and such basically melt after a few days if you leave them sitting with a drink in them. So I would believe these things break down far more effectively. Plus I'm sure the soil (and doo-doo) critters can process some starch far more effectively than straight plastic.

 

[zinfamous]

more important question for Zin -

Is your Avatar a self portrait?

maybe? :hmm:

 

[Printer Bandit]

Space X should launch trash / shit into the sun.

landfills on earth are too damn full !!

 

[Schmide]

I'm glad big companies are getting into this. Our community composts and we have to go to the dam hippy store to get these bags.

 

[zinfamous]

Space X should launch trash / shit into the sun.

landfills on earth are too damn full !!

You know, I've been saying this forever. Make it happen!

...technically, can't we do that with nuclear waste, as well? That shouldn't really do anything to the sun, right?

 

[sourceninja]

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[zinfamous]

The fact you ended that sentence with a question mark tells you that we probably shouldn't fuck with the sun.

Well, I'm no physicist, but if my calculations are correct, even our most powerful hydrogen bomb represents the energy output of 0.0000000001% of the sun's output every microsecond, at 0.00000000000000001% of its surface. This tells me that tossing our radioactive fallout--even our fricking nuclear weapons--into the sun would be like tossing a teaspoon of salt into lake Michigan.


right? :hmm:

 

[Fanatical Meat]

^^^I believe its not launched into space because to the possibility of a mishap making it disastrous.

 

[zinfamous]

^^^I believe its not launched into space because to the possibility of a mishap making it disastrous.

You mean like this one?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_Mars_Bluff_B-47_nuclear_weapon_loss_incident

meh.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

You mean like this one?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_Mars_Bluff_B-47_nuclear_weapon_loss_incident

meh.

I'm thinking more like the Challenger disaster but nuclear waste is spread across southern CA, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas. However using it for dog poop is another matter. All those places could be pooped on without danger.

 

[zinfamous]

I'm thinking more like the Challenger disaster but nuclear waste is spread across southern CA, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas. However using it for dog poop is another matter. All those places could be pooped on without danger.

well, the nuclear waste, sure...but the bombs man, the bombs!

Remember when Superman did that in Superman 4?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Superman pooped on TX?
60 minutes until our (my dog & I) take our Friday park walk. He usually is good for two dumps. Hope these bags don't suck.

 

[Drako]

more important question for Zin -

Is your Avatar a self portrait?

maybe? :hmm:

Are you a zombie?

 

[zinfamous]

why do people always think that is Bob Zombie? I don't even know who that is.